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mitchm · 02-10-2011, 08:27 AM

IT started life as a 1973 reg cab 1/2 ton 4x4 short bed gmc. I installed Dana 60 with wfo springless high steer arms with crossover steering the tie rod is behind the axle installed 56' s in front with shackle hangers under frame and 6 inch shackles the front axle is moved forward like 3 inches and for the rear got a 14 bolt installed 63's moved rear axle back and inborded them under frame and 5 inch shackles.then installed cab got lucky my dad's friend gave me the cab had to notch the frame so the cab could sit lower only a little body lift It's a 76 but the chp gave it the same vin as the 73 so no SMOG. The truck weighs 5470 and center to center axle is 131 inches

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mitchm · 02-10-2011, 08:34 AM

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mitchm · 02-10-2011, 08:38 AM

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wingnuts514 · 02-10-2011, 12:54 PM

Out of all the builds I have looked at thus far (which isn't that many really) your truck is the first I have seen with inboard springs. I searched some other threads about inboarding and it mainly helps with articulation I take it.

My question is, why don't more of the full size truck builds inboard? what are the pros AND cons of inboarding?

Love the snow wheeling pic btw.

Odin K30 · 02-10-2011, 02:10 PM

Did ya put the apron back on the bed?
Or is the front open?

mitchm · 02-10-2011, 03:34 PM

The only thing that I found with inborded rear springs is in reverse going 10-15 mph or so it gets scary.but my rear shocks r junk. I need to relocate the shocks to. Weld apron back in. I should of left in the front pockets but live and learn. headache rack rock sliders hydro assist and locker in front some year. It will be white soon my old man is a painter.

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mudskipper4x4 · 02-10-2011, 04:20 PM

^^ Nice weiner. Truck looks ok too.

AllGoNoShow · 02-10-2011, 04:39 PM

Cool truck.

mitchm · 02-15-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mudskipper4x4

^^ Nice weiner. Truck looks ok too.

That is spark plug.
Rock slider hydro assiest locker in front some year. need to re locate rear shocks not sure if I should go straight up and down or heading forward or back or like stock 1 forward 1back. I was trying not put the shock up threw the bed need to haul dirt bikes there is not much room with just stock 63's springs and no blocks 5 inch shackles and inboard springs with 14 inch shocks.

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r0nin89 · 02-15-2011, 07:28 AM

I really like the inboarded springs idea. Id do it if I wasnt set on doing a 4link rear now lol.

Truck is cool. Any good action shots?

muddyj · 02-15-2011, 08:56 AM

great looking truck!

I've wanted to build soemthing similar for quite a wile (ever sense I had to sell my '82 about 10 years ago).

I think if I ever get the chance to build one though, I'll probably shorten the cab/rear doors enough to take out that little fixed piece of glass. Doing that, although it would mean more body work, would move the cab corners a little farther away from the rear tires, and add just a bit more bed space.

mitchm · 03-03-2011, 08:40 PM

Will get some action shot this weekend hopefully

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StoutSam · 03-04-2011, 01:39 AM

I like those snow pictures haha looks like fun man! This thing makes me want to turn my limo crew cab into a trail rig like yours, the only problem is bikes dont hardly fit in a 4 foot bed haha

mitchm · 03-04-2011, 07:46 AM

My xr 400 fits just fine with the tale gate down

AllGoNoShow · 03-04-2011, 09:07 AM

What did the wheelbase end up being?

mitchm · 03-04-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AllGoNoShow

What did the wheelbase end up being?

It's 131 inches center axle to center axle and it weights 5470

91extsas · 03-04-2011, 06:18 PM

truck looks good did a similar swap to my 91 and inboarding the springs doesn't help as much as you think i moved mine in 3.5" either side and it didn't seem to make that much difference than just a shackle flip
whats ur spring width?

mitchm · 03-04-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 91extsas

truck looks good did a similar swap to my 91 and inboarding the springs doesn't help as much as you think i moved mine in 3.5" either side and it didn't seem to make that much difference than just a shackle flip
whats ur spring width?

Center spring to center spring is 33 1/2 what is yours

mitchm · 04-21-2011, 09:43 PM

Have not had time to do any crawling but I got 2nd in a mud bog out of 25 trucks I Will see how it will do in oroville next weekend.[IMG]

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91extsas · 04-22-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mitchm

Center spring to center spring is 33 1/2 what is yours

mine is stock for yours 40 from 47. thinkin bout inbording them even more and running a missing link shackle just gotta get my syi first

mitchm · 11-20-2011, 11:39 AM

The familycrawler turn into the family snow rig there in not much rock crawling out here in dutch harbor. Look to get hydraulic assist going with psc. Any one know a good place to get the kit ?

mitchm · 01-12-2012, 05:01 PM

The hydro assist kit is on order thanks to Bo at wfo concepts great scrvice.

benchgave · 01-12-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mitchm

The hydro assist kit is on order thanks to Bo at wfo concepts great scrvice.

that's nice great service.

The_Punisher · 01-12-2012, 11:55 PM

are all those pics from dutch?

I thought it was cool to see you're from dutch, I live in Kodiak stationed on H-60's in the coast guard, I have stopped through there for food and fuel in a 60.

mitchm · 01-13-2012, 06:23 PM

The pic are from cali just moved out here in july.

02-10-2011, 08:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	Family crew cab crawler IT started life as a 1973 reg cab 1/2 ton 4x4 short bed gmc. I installed Dana 60 with wfo springless high steer arms with crossover steering the tie rod is behind the axle installed 56' s in front with shackle hangers under frame and 6 inch shackles the front axle is moved forward like 3 inches and for the rear got a 14 bolt installed 63's moved rear axle back and inborded them under frame and 5 inch shackles.then installed cab got lucky my dad's friend gave me the cab had to notch the frame so the cab could sit lower only a little body lift It's a 76 but the chp gave it the same vin as the 73 so no SMOG. The truck weighs 5470 and center to center axle is 131 inches [IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][/IMG]

02-10-2011, 08:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	IT'S A 4 FOOT BED [IMG][IMG][/IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]

02-10-2011, 08:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]

02-10-2011, 12:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
wingnuts514 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 175121 Location: Lewiston, Idaho Posts: 256	Out of all the builds I have looked at thus far (which isn't that many really) your truck is the first I have seen with inboard springs. I searched some other threads about inboarding and it mainly helps with articulation I take it. My question is, why don't more of the full size truck builds inboard? what are the pros AND cons of inboarding? Love the snow wheeling pic btw. __________________ My junk: [URL="http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=935013"]http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=935013[/URL] Build is on the back burner until summer, turning my DD into a rig welder.

02-10-2011, 02:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Odin K30 Bad Doctor Join Date: Feb 2007 Member # 86878 Location: South of Heaven Posts: 2,473	Did ya put the apron back on the bed? Or is the front open? __________________ -Vinny -from Elizabeth Nobody cares about your rigs specs... "Me too" short Crew build /forum/chevy/994394-odins-me-too-short-crew-build.html

02-10-2011, 03:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	The only thing that I found with inborded rear springs is in reverse going 10-15 mph or so it gets scary.but my rear shocks r junk. I need to relocate the shocks to. Weld apron back in. I should of left in the front pockets but live and learn. headache rack rock sliders hydro assist and locker in front some year. It will be white soon my old man is a painter. [IMG][/IMG]

02-10-2011, 04:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
mudskipper4x4 AllUpInYourFace Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72951 Location: in a van down by the river Posts: 1,628	^^ Nice weiner. Truck looks ok too. __________________ 76 CJ-7... mostly chevy parts www.centexoffroad.com

02-10-2011, 04:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 2,001	Cool truck. __________________ Project Ol' Skool '37 Chevy: /forum/ford/1049898-project-old-skool.html 1979 F-350 build: /forum/ford/855113-79-f-150-build.html

02-15-2011, 07:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
r0nin89 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 80727 Location: Jackson, NJ Posts: 1,073	I really like the inboarded springs idea. Id do it if I wasnt set on doing a 4link rear now lol. Truck is cool. Any good action shots? __________________ 1994 Isuzu Trooper: OM617/W56/toybox 4.56 Dana 44 w/ lockright/6 lug Ford 8.8 4.56 Ox locker

02-15-2011, 08:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
muddyj Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72752 Location: the hub of the universe A.K.A. Boswell, IN Posts: 170	great looking truck! I've wanted to build soemthing similar for quite a wile (ever sense I had to sell my '82 about 10 years ago). I think if I ever get the chance to build one though, I'll probably shorten the cab/rear doors enough to take out that little fixed piece of glass. Doing that, although it would mean more body work, would move the cab corners a little farther away from the rear tires, and add just a bit more bed space. __________________ 93YJ, mostly stock,4.0, AX15, 231, D30 &35, 3" lift, TJ flairs, and 33's.

03-03-2011, 08:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	Will get some action shot this weekend hopefully [IMG][/IMG]

03-04-2011, 01:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
StoutSam Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 170304 Posts: 90	I like those snow pictures haha looks like fun man! This thing makes me want to turn my limo crew cab into a trail rig like yours, the only problem is bikes dont hardly fit in a 4 foot bed haha

03-04-2011, 07:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	My xr 400 fits just fine with the tale gate down

03-04-2011, 09:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 2,001	What did the wheelbase end up being? __________________ Project Ol' Skool '37 Chevy: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1049898 1979 F-350 build: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=855113

03-04-2011, 06:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
91extsas Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Member # 184697 Location: salisbury nh Posts: 367	truck looks good did a similar swap to my 91 and inboarding the springs doesn't help as much as you think i moved mine in 3.5" either side and it didn't seem to make that much difference than just a shackle flip whats ur spring width? Last edited by 91extsas; 03-04-2011 at 06:19 PM.

04-21-2011, 09:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	Have not had time to do any crawling but I got 2nd in a mud bog out of 25 trucks I Will see how it will do in oroville next weekend.[IMG][/IMG] __________________ 73 gmc crew cab on 41 inch iroks 56's in front with d 60 with wfo hd springless arms x-over hydro assist high steer with tie rod behind axle 14 bolt with disk brakes inborded 63's in rear 4 foot bed Last edited by mitchm; 04-21-2011 at 09:46 PM.

11-20-2011, 11:39 AM	#21 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	The familycrawler turn into the family snow rig there in not much rock crawling out here in dutch harbor. Look to get hydraulic assist going with psc. Any one know a good place to get the kit ? __________________ 73 gmc crew cab on 41 inch iroks 56's in front with d 60 with wfo hd springless arms x-over hydro assist high steer with tie rod behind axle 14 bolt with disk brakes inborded 63's in rear 4 foot bed

01-12-2012, 05:01 PM	#22 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	The hydro assist kit is on order thanks to Bo at wfo concepts great scrvice. __________________ 73 gmc crew cab on 41 inch iroks 56's in front with d 60 with wfo hd springless arms x-over hydro assist high steer with tie rod behind axle 14 bolt with disk brakes inborded 63's in rear 4 foot bed

01-12-2012, 11:55 PM	#24 (permalink)
The_Punisher Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Member # 162491 Location: Kodiak, AK Posts: 338	are all those pics from dutch? I thought it was cool to see you're from dutch, I live in Kodiak stationed on H-60's in the coast guard, I have stopped through there for food and fuel in a 60.

01-13-2012, 06:23 PM	#25 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	The pic are from cali just moved out here in july. __________________ 73 gmc crew cab on 41 inch iroks 56's in front with d 60 with wfo hd springless arms x-over hydro assist high steer with tie rod behind axle 14 bolt with disk brakes inborded 63's in rear 4 foot bed

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