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Old 02-15-2011, 07:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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01 S10 60 Swap Help

I am starting a new build & I have search but cant find any thread on puting 1 ton axles under a ZR2 S10. If anyone knows of any good write up please let me know. Thanks
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Even thou we didn't start out with Dana 60 the set up is the same between 44 and 60. Mine is set up for a Ford 78-79 Dana60. Just about any s10 build on here should help u, just look up s10 and u should find a bunch of builds.

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http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...552&highlight=

S10ZR2:
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...671&highlight=

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http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...518&highlight=
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Hell since ur in Sac u can come by and see mine and get ideas if u want. I am still in the rebuild/cleaning stage, just waiting on gears and locker to get here.
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I am starting a new build & I have search but cant find any thread on puting 1 ton axles under a ZR2 S10. If anyone knows of any good write up please let me know. Thanks


www.Zr2usa.com

Look in the SFA section...plenty of 60 builds with zr2's and a few non zr2's aswell.
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Thanks for all the help but what I am looking for is info on what front spring people are using when they put a hp60 up front with either 40"s or 44" tires. I will be running 44 swampers & as it sits now the tire will hit the firewall when I turn & my pinion is pointing down. I know I am going to have to move the axle forward but thats not going to help my pinion angle. The only way I can see to get y pinion angle right is to put the shackles in the front so that it drops the front of the springs down witch will move my pinion angle up. Any help would be great.

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Rancho 44044's are pretty common and you should be able to fit 44's if you chop a whole lotta sheet metal out of the way. Your going to move the axle forward no matter what if you want more than 33's. Cut and turn is about the only way to get your pinion pointed in the right directon with that much lift. Plus shackles in the front tend to bring teh suck on approach angle....


I have rear 4 runner springs on the front of mine. I cut a lot of sheet metal off of it, but i could run a 40 no problem.
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There is also a 4wd SFA section at S10forum, most of them are D30 builds, but it is the same principle. I'll second the 44044's also, tons of guys are using them and love them.

Also, you will set it up with the castor correct regardless were the pinion is pointing, if your driveshaft won't hit the angle then you'll need to cut the inner C's and rotate the pinion upwards.

Typically the guys running leafs up front on an S10 run into the same issue that it sounds like your having, were the back of the springs is far lower than the front, some guys make the rear shackle mounts up on the inside of the frame, some mount a taller crossmember below the frame up front for a spring hanger that helps lower the front of the springs. The heigth that your after will determine which route you should go with.
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This is confusing, how many build treads or same questions are u gong to post a new tread for?

Your other topic asks just about the same thing as this one

Link: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=951961
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Also, you will set it up with the castor correct regardless were the pinion is pointing, if your driveshaft won't hit the angle then you'll need to cut the inner C's and rotate the pinion upwards.
Cutting the C isn't going to help me get my pinion angle. The left spring perche is part of the punkin.

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This is confusing, how many build treads or same questions are u gong to post a new tread for?

Your other topic asks just about the same thing as this one

Link: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=951961
I guess as many as it takes to find what I am looking for.
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Cutting the C isn't going to help me get my pinion angle. The left spring perche is part of the punkin.
Sometimes It's necessary to modify the spring perch on the pumpkin. If your planning on clearing 44's and your pinion is pointing at the ground something has to give.
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This is confusing, how many build treads or same questions are u gong to post a new tread for?

Your other topic asks just about the same thing as this one

Link: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=951961
i was wondering when somebody was going to call him out
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I guess as many as it takes to find what I am looking for.
Why don't you find what you're looking for yourself instead of relying on others to find it for you? Get off your lazy ass, join zr2 specific forums, and learn how to fucking search.
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Cutting the C isn't going to help me get my pinion angle. The left spring perche is part of the punkin.
You're going to have to modify the spring perch that's cast into the pumpkin. You can weld on an angled spring perch on that side. Cut and turn the C's to get your 5-6 degrees of positive castor and point the pinion a 1-2 degrees above the drive shaft angle.
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Cutting the C isn't going to help me get my pinion angle. The left spring perche is part of the punkin.
just give up now your obviously in over your head and posting two threads about the same bullshit dosnt make you cooler.
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just give up now your obviously in over your head and posting two threads about the same bullshit dosnt make you cooler.
Its obvious your ass & you have no idea what your talking about or you wouldnt have just talk shit.
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Its obvious your ass & you have no idea what your talking about or you wouldnt have just talk shit.
Before u sound retarded read this thread http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...733&highlight= He had to cut his C's to get the pinion angle that he wanted. It doesn't matter if it is a 44 or a 60, all the set ups are just about the same depending on how u build your cross member and what springs you end up using, and location of shackles. I was lucky I didn't have to cut my C's and with my set up, its ready for a stock 78-79 Dana 60.
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Before u sound retarded read this thread http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...733&highlight= He had to cut his C's to get the pinion angle that he wanted. It doesn't matter if it is a 44 or a 60, all the set ups are just about the same depending on how u build your cross member and what springs you end up using, and location of shackles. I was lucky I didn't have to cut my C's and with my set up, its ready for a stock 78-79 Dana 60.
Cool I will check it out. I could care less if someone thinks I sound retarded. If I knew how to set all this stuff u p I won't be here asking for help. But I think I am going to just link it. Since I had plan on doing it down the road anyway. Thanks for your input
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Its obvious your ass & you have no idea what your talking about or you wouldnt have just talk shit.
No your the one that makes it sound like modifying the spring perch can't be done and then you say cut and turning the C's won't help your pinion angle and then you sound like an idiot in the other thread you started asking the same shit as this one. You have a lot going for you
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Cool I will check it out. I could care less if someone thinks I sound retarded. If I knew how to set all this stuff u p I won't be here asking for help. But I think I am going to just link it. Since I had plan on doing it down the road anyway. Thanks for your input
Hey we are trying to help, but it seems like you think we don't know what we are talking about.

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Thanks for all the help but what I am looking for is info on what front spring people are using when they put a hp60 up front with either 40"s or 44" tires. I will be running 44 swampers & as it sits now the tire will hit the firewall when I turn & my pinion is pointing down. I know I am going to have to move the axle forward but thats not going to help my pinion angle. The only way I can see to get y pinion angle right is to put the shackles in the front so that it drops the front of the springs down witch will move my pinion angle up. Any help would be great.Thanks
So the guys answer back with what springs and cutting the C's for rotating your pinion for the right angle biased off your comment. I myself told u to read my build because I used 52" leafs (front) and 63" leafs (rear) on my build which I copied Oobers build and didn't need to cut my C's.
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Rancho 44044's are pretty common and you should be able to fit 44's if you chop a whole lotta sheet metal out of the way. Your going to move the axle forward no matter what if you want more than 33's. Cut and turn is about the only way to get your pinion pointed in the right directon with that much lift. Plus shackles in the front tend to bring teh suck on approach angle....

I have rear 4 runner springs on the front of mine. I cut a lot of sheet metal off of it, but i could run a 40 no problem.
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There is also a 4wd SFA section at S10forum, most of them are D30 builds, but it is the same principle. I'll second the 44044's also, tons of guys are using them and love them.

Also, you will set it up with the castor correct regardless were the pinion is pointing, if your driveshaft won't hit the angle then you'll need to cut the inner C's and rotate the pinion upwards.

Typically the guys running leafs up front on an S10 run into the same issue that it sounds like your having, were the back of the springs is far lower than the front, some guys make the rear shackle mounts up on the inside of the frame, some mount a taller crossmember below the frame up front for a spring hanger that helps lower the front of the springs. The heigth that your after will determine which route you should go with.
Then you go on to saying:
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Cutting the C isn't going to help me get my pinion angle. The left spring perche is part of the punkin.
Did u not read what MTUBlaZeR2, and DieselS10 said let alone I posted a link for u to read that someone else is having to cut and turn there C's so there pinion angle is correct?
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Sometimes It's necessary to modify the spring perch on the pumpkin. If your planning on clearing 44's and your pinion is pointing at the ground something has to give.
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You're going to have to modify the spring perch that's cast into the pumpkin. You can weld on an angled spring perch on that side. Cut and turn the C's to get your 5-6 degrees of positive castor and point the pinion a 1-2 degrees above the drive shaft angle.
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Before u sound retarded read this thread http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...733&highlight= He had to cut his C's to get the pinion angle that he wanted.
I am guessing now that u have no clue or understanding of what is going on here. A Dana 60 will NOT just bolt in, u MUST modify the axle to get it to work with your set up (I hope that was straight enough English for u to understand). Also since u have no clue on how to modify a axle I highly doubt u can link a axle. Most noobs that join the PBB usually get flamed right away, but some of use NICE guys are trying to help you understand before the flaming happens.
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LOL Fuck you lame. If I am irritating you then why do you keep coming back. If you must know The 60 is in my truck now to go eat a bowl of dick
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LOL Fuck you lame. If I am irritating you then why do you keep coming back. If you must know The 60 is in my truck now to go eat a bowl of dick
Do you really not know why people are calling you an idiot?

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