Chocolate Thunder Closed - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Competition and Event Info > Competitions and Events
Notices

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-24-2012, 01:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16432
Location: Charlottesville VA
Posts: 677
Chocolate Thunder Closed

Chocolate thunder is NOT closed, Thanks for your attention.

Most of you do not yet know me or my team, but we have been in this game for long time. We are the first to stand up for safety concerns, broken rules and un-sportsmanship like conduct. I know a few promoters and event officials who will hopefully speak up as to just how helpful (irritating to them) we have been over the years.
I am one of the guilty that took the high line at CT. It is regrettable that it appears I put my friends, fellow racers and sponsors in a negative exposure. I admit I was sick after watching the videos of the first few to run up that line. We didn't see any attemts of the first few from the our driverís seat and co driverís seat, we were covered in sand and dust. When the dust cleared we simply went for it with the reasoning that it was a clear line within 50ft of the course, and no officials were stopping anyone. We later learned the line was talked about in the drivers meeting and it was off limits. I am sure it was said, but we just didn't hear it for whatever reasons, no excuses to offer.
I think things could have gone a lot different on many different levels. Admit ably as a driver I did not have a safety alarm going off in my head. As experienced competitive rock crawler for many years we are accustomed to being in close proximity to the spectators, which is not appropriate in this type of environment.
I thank Dave Cole for calling me to discuss the incident and to get our perspective. I think he and his team gave the problem and penalties careful consideration and the results ARE more than fair for some. We except responsibility for our actions and consider everyone involved to be lucky no one was harmed.
I only have this to offer, assume all drivers are capable making really dumb decisions even after clear explanation. Put it in writing and mark the safety hot spots with wrong way or caution tape.
I hope everyone can accept our deepest apologies. We pride ourselves on being a professional and reputable team. We look forward to earning our forgiveness at the next event we attend. I offer myself and my team to the efforts of marking safety hot spots and making sure we all have a clear uncompromised understanding of these areas.
Sincerely
Alan Woodson
Axis Motorsports
__________________
Alan Woodson



www.axisfabrication.com , Charlottesville VA
bawz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 01:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
HeavyMetalConcepts
 
HeavyMetalXJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Member # 69807
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 1,601
Thats a great post Alan, good on you. See you at RC
__________________
-Will
www.HeavyMetalConcepts.com
Film - Photography - Design - Advertising
-HeavyMetalConcepts on Facebook- Become a fan!
Team Videos/Design Advertising - Business Videos/Design Advertising
HeavyMetalXJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 02-24-2012, 01:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Member # 177602
Location: Bloomfield, CT
Posts: 114
Well said!...See you at Rausch!
__________________
Spotter Team #734 Shameless Racing...Thanx to the sponsors: Extreme Axle, High Angle, Raceline, PSC
1951M38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 01:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Member # 133068
Location: Noble, OK
Posts: 771
Send a message via Yahoo to seeyouonthetrail Send a message via Skype™ to seeyouonthetrail
-Props-
Racing happens! Anyone got that steeker yet?
__________________
Seeyouonthetrail . com
seeyouonthetrail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 02:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
Savvy Off Road
 
Provelogear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Member # 110540
Location: Tustin, CA
Posts: 2,497
Stand up!
__________________
COMPETITION BREEDS INNOVATION! 3X EMC



Click here for: SAVVY OFF ROAD
Provelogear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 02:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
Rock God
 
ISDTBower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Member # 94026
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 1,203
"I only have this to offer, assume all drivers are capable making really dumb decisions even after clear explanation."

Mechanicals can happen at any time. No, the drivers are not under control.

Words to continue living by.


And early-on...I was accused of using bottlenecked bikes for traction also......Early-on.
OP accepted in my book.

Last edited by ISDTBower; 02-24-2012 at 02:08 PM.
ISDTBower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 02:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16432
Location: Charlottesville VA
Posts: 677
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyMetalXJ View Post
Thats a great post Alan, good on you. See you at RC

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1951M38 View Post
Well said!...See you at Rausch!
Can wait, thanks guys

Quote:
Originally Posted by seeyouonthetrail View Post
-Props-
Racing happens! Anyone got that steeker yet?
What steeker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Provelogear View Post
Stand up!
Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by ISDTBower View Post
"I only have this to offer, assume all drivers are capable making really dumb decisions even after clear explanation."

Mechanicals can happen at any time. No, the drivers are not under control.

Words to continue living by.


And early-on...I was accused of using bottlenecked bikes for traction also......Early-on.
OP accepted in my book.
Your right. and thanks
__________________
Alan Woodson



www.axisfabrication.com , Charlottesville VA
bawz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 02:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16432
Location: Charlottesville VA
Posts: 677
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeyouonthetrail View Post
-Props-
Racing happens! Anyone got that steeker yet?
Duh, I got it!!
__________________
Alan Woodson



www.axisfabrication.com , Charlottesville VA
bawz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 02:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
IDIot!
 
MT4Runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Member # 44480
Location: Kalispell, MT
Posts: 18,079


Stand-up response.
MT4Runner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 02:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
MADMATZ BigBlkjeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Member # 116810
Location: Charlottesville, VA / WWW.MMJEEPZ.COM
Posts: 108
Well said!!
__________________
MAD MATZ UNIQUE JEEPZ Inc [url]www.MMJEEPZ.com[/url] Parts and Service 703-408-7636
MADMATZ BigBlkjeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 02:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
I brought the beer
 
JeepRecoveryTeam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Member # 10203
Location: Bender Up Da Hill
Posts: 7,553
Send a message via ICQ to JeepRecoveryTeam Send a message via AIM to JeepRecoveryTeam Send a message via Yahoo to JeepRecoveryTeam
The whole situation was a learning lesson for all the racers, myself personally, and our orginization. I honestly believe that we don't have a single racer that has ever made a concious decision to put someone else in harms way.

Alan and his team are a class act and I'm looking forward to seeing him race in the near future.
__________________
Ultra4 and King of the Hammers
JeepRecoveryTeam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 02:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
broncolou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Member # 26750
Location: Parkton MD
Posts: 2,168
Well stated Alan
broncolou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 03:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Member # 15084
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 2,416
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepRecoveryTeam View Post
I honestly believe that we don't have a single racer that has ever made a concious decision to put someone else in harms way.
Amen. Red mist
SuperRanger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 03:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
Team 4554
 
Kurtuleas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Member # 23188
Location: Discovery Bay, CA
Posts: 8,406
Blog Entries: 1
Very well put, and VERY stand-up!

__________________
4554 OCD Racing

Our partners: Falken Tire, Vegas 4x4, CRAWL Magazine, Reid Racing, Metal Cloak, MJ Motorsports, Jessie Haines Fabrication, SFS Industries, Susanville Transmission, Pacific Fabrication, Raceline Wheels, Outlaw Grafix, The Kyburz Krawlerz, and Keith's credit card.
Kurtuleas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 05:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Stephen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Member # 2092
Location: Carbondale, CO
Posts: 953
Quote:
Originally Posted by bawz View Post
I only have this to offer, assume all drivers are capable making really dumb decisions even after clear explanation.
Years of competing in other dangerous sports (pistols) show me that we really need to live by this statement above. I practice all the dumb motor skills with the gun a rigorous amount so that when I'm under stress the right things happen without thinking about them. This is because we KNOW that under stress we're going to miss the obvious, screw up the easy, etc and have to stay safe. Lesson is we need to assume that all drivers and co-dogs (ourselves, ME specifically included) need everything to be ridiculously obvious to know it's going to work out right. Not saying we can all blow off thinking in the car, just recognize that it's not always going to happen and try to plan for it.

Way to step up Alan, look forward to meeting you some race.
__________________
Stephen Watson
www.offroaddesign.com
#4488
KOH '13 1st ever DNF But we were hauling ass before and after it broke.
KOH '12 12th overall
KOH11 28th. It's a finish!
KOH11 Sportsmanship Award.

Friends & partners who helped: Offroad Design, Pacific Fab, King, Baja Designs, TrailReady, Amsoil, PSC, Tom Woods Driveshafts, Bighorn Graphics, Optima
Stephen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 05:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16432
Location: Charlottesville VA
Posts: 677
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperRanger View Post
Amen. Red mist
Need a address to ship you a horn!!!!
__________________
Alan Woodson



www.axisfabrication.com , Charlottesville VA
bawz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 05:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16432
Location: Charlottesville VA
Posts: 677
Quote:
Originally Posted by MT4Runner View Post


Stand-up response.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MADMATZ BigBlkjeep View Post
Well said!!
Hey Matt, thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by broncolou View Post
Well stated Alan
you are so in trouble now. see you at RC I'll bring that bag you ordered

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurtuleas View Post
Very well put, and VERY stand-up!

Thanks

[QUOTE=Stephen;14055041

Way to step up Alan, look forward to meeting you some race.[/QUOTE]

Look forward to it, I'll be the guy that looks angry and doesn't talk much.......at first.
__________________
Alan Woodson



www.axisfabrication.com , Charlottesville VA
bawz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2012, 03:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
Wheeler
 
IamNonStop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Member # 28387
Location: Shipman, Va
Posts: 421
Send a message via AIM to IamNonStop
Great job to you and your team, Alan. We were watching online back in Cville hoping to catch a glimpse of you here and there. It was awesome hearing your interview after you finished. We were team Axis all day.

Not knowing any of the rules about 50' from center, distance from spectators, or drivers meeting stuff, we had a blast watching you (and others) take that high line. It looked steep, loose and required hammer down = fun to watch.

We saw you a couple other times and the room got very loud as though you would be able to hear us from the other side of the country.
IamNonStop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2012, 06:18 AM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Member # 27978
Location: East Fallowfield PA
Posts: 548
Man now I need to be nice to Alan for doing the right thing with this post

Pick up your phone when I call damn it
__________________
www.rauschcreekoffroadpark.org
Shady TJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2012, 07:44 AM   #20 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16432
Location: Charlottesville VA
Posts: 677
Quote:
Originally Posted by IamNonStop View Post
Great job to you and your team, Alan. We were watching online back in Cville hoping to catch a glimpse of you here and there. It was awesome hearing your interview after you finished. We were team Axis all day.

Not knowing any of the rules about 50' from center, distance from spectators, or drivers meeting stuff, we had a blast watching you (and others) take that high line. It looked steep, loose and required hammer down = fun to watch.

We saw you a couple other times and the room got very loud as though you would be able to hear us from the other side of the country.
That awesome mike thanks. We heard Ya!!
__________________
Alan Woodson



www.axisfabrication.com , Charlottesville VA
bawz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2012, 07:46 AM   #21 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16432
Location: Charlottesville VA
Posts: 677
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shady TJ View Post
Man now I need to be nice to Alan for doing the right thing with this post

Pick up your phone when I call damn it
Sorry, I am avoiding you when you call
__________________
Alan Woodson



www.axisfabrication.com , Charlottesville VA
bawz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2012, 08:16 AM   #22 (permalink)
Rock God
 
imagineer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Member # 50419
Location: Easton MA
Posts: 1,472
Well Said Alan.

Congratulations on a great finish. No matter what you finished the hardest single day offroad race in the world and no one can take that from you.

I look forward to racing against you this season.

-Lucas
__________________
Murphy's Law Motorsports #816
Check us out on FACEBOOK


Kessler Machine & Fabricating, Fox Racing, Raceline Wheels, Yukon Axle & Gear, B.F. Goodrich, NEA4WD, PAC Racing Springs, Spiegel Scrap Metal, Griffin Radiators, Baja Designs,AMSOIL, Flexcon Industries, Ruffstuff, HOWE performance
imagineer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2012, 09:23 AM   #23 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16432
Location: Charlottesville VA
Posts: 677
Quote:
Originally Posted by imagineer View Post
Well Said Alan.

Congratulations on a great finish. No matter what you finished the hardest single day offroad race in the world and no one can take that from you.

I look forward to racing against you this season.

-Lucas
That's pretty much how we feel about it.

Can't wait.
__________________
Alan Woodson



www.axisfabrication.com , Charlottesville VA
bawz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2012, 11:24 AM   #24 (permalink)
Pirate is KING!
 
RedBullJeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Member # 12217
Location: San Diego Area
Posts: 13,694
A true competitor AND sportsman!

Have a great season Alan.
RedBullJeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2012, 03:10 PM   #25 (permalink)
Rock God
 
matzell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Member # 42081
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1,407
Way to step up Alan! I saw your buggy this week at Indy4x, wow it looks wore out, and it should be. I can not wait to see it cleaned up and racing again at RC. Let me know if you need anything. Congrats on finishing the race.
__________________
Rob Matzell

Sponsors welcome

like "Matzell Motorsports" on Facebook

Matzell Motorsports #4573
Thanks to: BFG, Bilstein, PRP, PSC, Raceline wheels, Reid Racing, Warn, Independent4x, Liquid Iron Industries, Coppertree Construction, Ruffstuff, Willow Lawn Service Center
matzell is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.