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Old 08-01-2006, 03:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I want to Compete!!

This forum title is Competitions and Events information, SO...

What is the best way for a "little" guy like me to get started?

Mostly on the east coast, but could possibly get to the mid-west.

What Rockcrawling Groups do I "register" with?
What Class?
Any advise from you senior guys on what a newbie like me should do?

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Sorry for being so "NEW" but I want to compete and see what it is all about.

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There have been quite of few posts like this with some really good info for guys trying to get started. You could try searching for them, or just any east coast sactioning bodies that interest you.

Pretty much, some simple searches will net you the best results
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I'd recommend you find a regional "FUN" event like one of those at Rockport OffRoad Park, OR, by trying your hand in the "Trophy" level of whatever class you fit into in an event like WE Rock East. The "trophy" classes don't cost much, have far less on the line, and make you a part of the event, without having the pressure to get in over your head. Take a look at Paragon as well. I've heard Kyle puts on a great event.

The following is an excerpt of an interview I did with Chris Collard that ran in Offroad Adventures Magazine:

Baby steps is the short advice. Many teams burn out because they jump in before they really know what they want. Trying your hand in a regional event with a “Stock Mod” class is the best way to start as you can use your trail rig to test your skills while seeing if the pressures and demands of the sport fit you. Then, step back and look at just how big of a commitment you want to make and balance that with imagining if your commitment is practical. It takes so much more effort to compete on the national level than most can imagine. The costs are huge so if you can’t spend your own money, are you really going to have the time and skill to find people and companies to help you on your way? Look at what kind of people you have surrounding you and ask if you’d be better off competing in regional events just to share in the fun you’ll have from time to time, or if they’re a bunch that would be far more excited traveling around to support you in your dreams? Do you NEED to be a winner or are you just as happy putting on a fun show and promoting those companies that are willing to partner up with you? Choose the number of events that you can truly make…biting off more than you can chew maintenance-wise, travel-wise, and financial-wise is a mistake made far too often. And finally, choose what is right for not only you, but your family too. The quickest way out of the sport, and most likely a relationship/marriage is to not give that the most consideration. Once you’ve figured all of that out, GO FOR IT and get ready for the most exciting ride of your life!
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I'd recommend you find a regional "FUN" event like one of those at Rockport OffRoad Park, OR, by trying your hand in the "Trophy" level of whatever class you fit into in an event like WE Rock East. The "trophy" classes don't cost much, have far less on the line, and make you a part of the event, without having the pressure to get in over your head. Take a look at Paragon as well. I've heard Kyle puts on a great event.

The following is an excerpt of an interview I did with Chris Collard that ran in Offroad Adventures Magazine:

Baby steps is the short advice. Many teams burn out because they jump in before they really know what they want. Trying your hand in a regional event with a “Stock Mod” class is the best way to start as you can use your trail rig to test your skills while seeing if the pressures and demands of the sport fit you. Then, step back and look at just how big of a commitment you want to make and balance that with imagining if your commitment is practical. It takes so much more effort to compete on the national level than most can imagine. The costs are huge so if you can’t spend your own money, are you really going to have the time and skill to find people and companies to help you on your way? Look at what kind of people you have surrounding you and ask if you’d be better off competing in regional events just to share in the fun you’ll have from time to time, or if they’re a bunch that would be far more excited traveling around to support you in your dreams? Do you NEED to be a winner or are you just as happy putting on a fun show and promoting those companies that are willing to partner up with you? Choose the number of events that you can truly make…biting off more than you can chew maintenance-wise, travel-wise, and financial-wise is a mistake made far too often. And finally, choose what is right for not only you, but your family too. The quickest way out of the sport, and most likely a relationship/marriage is to not give that the most consideration. Once you’ve figured all of that out, GO FOR IT and get ready for the most exciting ride of your life!
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Just FYI, WERock changed their Trophy class to an exhibition class, you pay you run, no reward. Good advice all the same, from one of the best!
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Thanks Guys.....

I am continuing to search. I like the idea of competing in my "trail" rig, which is what I am trying to stay with; The ability to but the back seat back in, buckle the kiddies up, and do some trail rides the following weekend.

I have also been on UROC, WEROCK, etc's websites, but they are kinda vague to guys just trying to get started.

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Thanks Guys.....

I am continuing to search. I like the idea of competing in my "trail" rig, which is what I am trying to stay with; The ability to but the back seat back in, buckle the kiddies up, and do some trail rides the following weekend.

I have also been on UROC, WEROCK, etc's websites, but they are kinda vague to guys just trying to get started.

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One more thing, if you haven't already, really get out and watch a comp. If you are wheeling you trail rig, it's built, so you are stuck in the class you mods put you in. What is a real shock to many people getting into this is seeing exactly what they have to do to get between the cones. I know it's one hell of alot of work, and if you are new, quite stressful. Find a good spotter and make time to practice with him before you head out. The largest mistake we ever made in competing was not getting time to practice. The truck was broken or we were broke from fixing it, so it was a constant trial by fire on the course. Also, don't just hit you local trails, find some hard stuff, make some cones up, place them on crazy lines you'd never try and have at it. Wheeling for fun is way laid back, you've got plenty of room to make a turn, make a line and use whatever time you want to get there. On course it's ten minutes, super tight, bad climbs and crazy ass lines.

All the same I missed competing this year, life got in the way. I never thought I'd miss it, but I really do! Good luck!
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check out carolina crawlers they will have some smaller type events. also, at some of the 4wd jamborees there is rockcrawling. when you look at w.e.rock/uroc requirements = they are pretty strict. w.e.rock stock class might be something to shoot for unless you vehicle has been taken too far for that class. if so, find the class you fit and see what you need to do, to bring it into specs. good luck.
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Thanks Guys.....

I am continuing to search. I like the idea of competing in my "trail" rig, which is what I am trying to stay with; The ability to but the back seat back in, buckle the kiddies up, and do some trail rides the following weekend.

I have also been on UROC, WEROCK, etc's websites, but they are kinda vague to guys just trying to get started.

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I'm sorry you find us vague

Please feel free to call, I answer about 95% of the time, just remember that I'm on the west coast and travel alot.

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I meant for a newbie who wants to know how to get started. Those sites are awesome and are easy to navigate if you want to know the rules, schedules, and meet the teams, etc.


Edit.....I found the entry forms in the files under the rules.

I also found some good links.

I am still searching though. Thanks for the help guys. ALot of good input, and points to consider.

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If you want to start Carolina Crawlin' will have an event in November. Check their site http://www.carolinacrawlin.com. They are good peeps and will fill you in on stuff. It is a good place to start.
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If you want to push towards the midwest, I recommend two.

RROCK www.rrock.us Very fun rockcrawl series.

MOROC www.moroc-us.com Beginning a very small rockcrawl series in 2007 consisting of about 4-5 courses per event. Promises to be fun. Or if your into speed, check out the Midwest Championship woods racing Series. 3-event series in MO, 3-event series in AR and OK and a combined Midwest championship event. These are also very fun events.
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If you want to start Carolina Crawlin' will have an event in November. Check their site http://www.carolinacrawlin.com. They are good peeps and will fill you in on stuff. It is a good place to start.

What is the difference in their Modified Stock, and street stock? Both of those classes have links back to WEROCK, but WEROCK doesnt have a "Street Stock".

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What is the difference in their Modified Stock, and street stock? Both of those classes have links back to WEROCK, but WEROCK doesnt have a "Street Stock".

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Street Stock is used at the regional events, each promoters has slightly different rules, but most are like one locker, 33" tires, stock axles and drivetrain.

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What is the difference in their Modified Stock, and street stock? Both of those classes have links back to WEROCK, but WEROCK doesnt have a "Street Stock".

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The Street Stock class has been the one with the most rigs. The rules are simple in that the rig needs to be street legal and tagged with insurance. In other words, if you can legally drive it on the road it is legal.

Modified Stock is the Stock class as WEROCK runs it, so you may or may not fit into that class.

The next event is Aug. 19th as Club vs Club. This would be a great time to test your rig out or just to watch. Now, the Sep. 9th Street Class event will be open to any street legal rig, so you can also check that out.

After those is Oct. 14th which is exhibition only during the fair. This is a great chance to come and check out the other rigs and teams. Then the Nov. event should be pretty big since the purse for all the classes includes extra money besides entry fees.

And since your in NC, it may not be a long trip.
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first- work on your rig for 15 straight days
then- jump in it back it into the largest tree in your yard, put it in forward and go to the ATM and take out as much money as it will give you have then throw it out the window as you run your rig against a guard rail on your way to the trophy shop where you buy yourself a nice trophy with the last $20. Put the trophy on your mantle when you get home and look at everyday.

In 6 months if looking at it still gives you fond memories of the fun you had then we'll see you at the comps.
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first- work on your rig for 15 straight days
then- jump in it back it into the largest tree in your yard, put it in forward and go to the ATM and take out as much money as it will give you have then throw it out the window as you run your rig against a guard rail on your way to the trophy shop where you buy yourself a nice trophy with the last $20. Put the trophy on your mantle when you get home and look at everyday.

In 6 months if looking at it still gives you fond memories of the fun you had then we'll see you at the comps.
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I thought you'd say let someone borrow your rig.....

oh, and trophies are more than $20.00
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Hey Big Rich,
I know its early but is there an estimated time frame for the release of the 07 rules? WIll there be any major changes to the Pro Modifieds? I want to start building a rig to compete in the eastern series next season and was wondering if the rules will be very similar to the 06 season.

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first- work on your rig for 15 straight days
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In 6 months if looking at it still gives you fond memories of the fun you had then we'll see you at the comps.
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Jeff you forgot that you have to drive at least 10 hours to that ATM then back again sunday night and be to work on monday.

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I plan on running RROCK next year, never done it before and I am going straight to Legends class because I have friends that compete, and my rig won't pass probably for the other classes. I go and watch as much as I can, learn as much as I can, and if I have any hard questions I can simply approach the teams or the people I know and ask. Most of them are great guys and will answer questions no matter how trivial.

My rig is under construction, and when done I plan on hitting lots of local areas and learning my vehicle as much as I can, how the suspension handles, center of gravity, how it drives with lockers etc. Getting as much seat time as you can will be a huge help, and finding a good spotter to practice with you and know your rig.
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Thanks for the comments guys....even the sarcastic ones (which are probably more the truth than I understand at this time ).

Since we have more money than sense, and we dont have much $$, we are going ahead with the build, with a "chery blast" 18-19 Nov in SC.

Thanks again, and see ya at the comps!!

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I'd recommend you find a regional "FUN" event like one of those at Rockport OffRoad Park,
I'd 2nd that recommendation regardless of what kind of competition you want to do (be it rock crawling, mud racing, truck pulling, etc, etc, etc). The travel expense will kill all your fun otherwise. I've been to 7 races so far this year, only spent 1 night in a hotel all season, and left my state's border by about 10 miles on that 1 occasion. And I could have been to more if I wasn't picky about where I run. Beats the @#$% out of running all over the country if you're a poor, regular Joe like me who needs to be at a regular job Mon-Fri.

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