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TEX · 04-12-2009, 06:43 PM

I doubt many of you get to the mud forum much, so I'm cross-posting this one for ya

Great photo sequence of a 90 MPH crash (driver was okay):

http://www.mikebartelt.com/gallery/main.php

randii · 04-12-2009, 07:21 PM

Yeowch! What's the driver to do in this situation, counter-steer until it starts to barrel-roll, then shut it off, hold on, and start drawing a vacuum to the seat cushion?

Full tear-down to check everything, but if shut-down was accomplished, is the motor mostly intact (other than the bits ripped off of it in the tumble)>

Randii

TEX · 04-13-2009, 06:35 AM

I think the chassis & engine survived pretty well, but they had to cut the cage off to get him out. He got knocked for a loop & spent the night in the hospital as a precautionary measure. Glad to hear he's okay. Real nice guy, he's raced at my events before. Back to the car damage, buddy of mine had his injector hat ripped off in a roll & that messed a lot of stuff up.

DOUG38S · 04-13-2009, 07:11 AM

man nasty wreck. couple of years back we had a guy in one of those 3 second cars come to our local mud bog. cleared the way and let him rip on it. he hit the berm from the pit and went upside down in the pit. I always have thought about why these guys build them so narrow and really light with the speeds they are hitting is crazy. a little wider and some aluminum over their heads I would think would help a lot. Saw lots of nasty wrecks up in bloomsburg back in the day too.

TEX · 04-13-2009, 07:15 AM

Narrow is kind of a catch-22. The wider cars are actually much more prone to getting sideways than the narrow ones, but the narrower ones roll easier once they get bent out of shape.

BillaVista · 04-13-2009, 09:21 AM

WOW!!!

Warning - front tires may come off at 3+ rolls!

Awesome series of pics. Kinda nest but sad to see the bits ripping off as it goes over and over.

Less damage than I'd have thought - props to the designer / builder.

Glad to hear the driver is OK. Big props to the designer / builder!

wngrog · 04-13-2009, 09:36 AM

Where is the mud?

DOUG38S · 04-13-2009, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX

Narrow is kind of a catch-22. The wider cars are actually much more prone to getting sideways than the narrow ones, but the narrower ones roll easier once they get bent out of shape.

I'm thinking super wide. just a little bit wider than what they have now. if one of those bars really broke in they would be picking them outta their teeth. why not moonbuggy wide. plenly of room around the driver but still plentyt small.

caddishack · 04-13-2009, 09:59 AM

I was watching his arms and fuel cell. His arms did pretty good, and he only had one line come off the tank. He did lose a coolant line too. One hell of a wreck and an AWESOME job photographing it.

TEX · 04-13-2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wngrog

Where is the mud?

His crash took place beyond the finish line.

TEX · 04-13-2009, 10:27 AM

BTW, here's the car after it was all said & done:

http://www.mudracersassociation.com/...php?f=12&t=657

TEX · 04-22-2009, 06:51 AM

Here's video of the crash and several more "successful" passes:

YouTube - Cobbtown Race

fuggy · 04-22-2009, 06:58 AM

Cool! Those dragster look hard to control and keep in a straight line!

TEX · 04-22-2009, 07:18 AM

Yeah, a lot of guys wonder what's so tough about just running a straight line - keeping it in a straight line IS the tough part LOL.

04-12-2009, 06:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
TEX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 603 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 14,194	Ouch!! I doubt many of you get to the mud forum much, so I'm cross-posting this one for ya Great photo sequence of a 90 MPH crash (driver was okay): http://www.mikebartelt.com/gallery/main.php __________________ www.probog.com Thanks to: www.heiseroil.com Extreme Performance www.kmelectronics.com Bear Creek Auto Recyclers www.svrehorsepower.com

04-13-2009, 06:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
TEX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 603 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 14,194	I think the chassis & engine survived pretty well, but they had to cut the cage off to get him out. He got knocked for a loop & spent the night in the hospital as a precautionary measure. Glad to hear he's okay. Real nice guy, he's raced at my events before. Back to the car damage, buddy of mine had his injector hat ripped off in a roll & that messed a lot of stuff up. __________________ www.probog.com Thanks to: www.heiseroil.com Extreme Performance www.kmelectronics.com Bear Creek Auto Recyclers www.svrehorsepower.com

04-13-2009, 07:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
DOUG38S BIGELOW MOTORSPORTS Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17107 Location: Sharpsburg, MD Posts: 5,343 Blog Entries: 1	man nasty wreck. couple of years back we had a guy in one of those 3 second cars come to our local mud bog. cleared the way and let him rip on it. he hit the berm from the pit and went upside down in the pit. I always have thought about why these guys build them so narrow and really light with the speeds they are hitting is crazy. a little wider and some aluminum over their heads I would think would help a lot. Saw lots of nasty wrecks up in bloomsburg back in the day too. __________________ *TEAM YUKON GEAR and AXLE #4413* Bulldog Winch, Raceline, Maxxis, FOA, Tom Woods, Everlast Welders, Ruffstuff Specialities, Cool Shirt, Stage 8, Baja Designs, PSC Steering, AJIK Overland Exchange, Reid Racing, Artec, Powertank, DynoMax, Hinchman Racewear, DJ Safety

04-13-2009, 07:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
TEX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 603 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 14,194	Narrow is kind of a catch-22. The wider cars are actually much more prone to getting sideways than the narrow ones, but the narrower ones roll easier once they get bent out of shape. __________________ www.probog.com Thanks to: www.heiseroil.com Extreme Performance www.kmelectronics.com Bear Creek Auto Recyclers www.svrehorsepower.com

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wngrog Moderating Midget Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1154 Location: Canton, MS Posts: 22,057 Blog Entries: 4	Where is the mud? __________________ Nolen Grogan 1997 FZJ-80 Land Cruiser, 37's 2010 RZR-4 www.cottonlandcruisers.com www.rockmidgetphotography.com USAF Veteran 1988-1998 GOD Bless America

04-12-2009, 07:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
randii Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 347 Location: Fair Oaks, CA Posts: 10,082	Yeowch! What's the driver to do in this situation, counter-steer until it starts to barrel-roll, then shut it off, hold on, and start drawing a vacuum to the seat cushion? Full tear-down to check everything, but if shut-down was accomplished, is the motor mostly intact (other than the bits ripped off of it in the tumble)> Randii

04-13-2009, 09:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
BillaVista Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3547 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 6,719	WOW!!! Warning - front tires may come off at 3+ rolls! Awesome series of pics. Kinda nest but sad to see the bits ripping off as it goes over and over. Less damage than I'd have thought - props to the designer / builder. Glad to hear the driver is OK. Big props to the designer / builder!

04-13-2009, 09:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
caddishack Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 94758 Location: Dodge City,KS Posts: 873	I was watching his arms and fuel cell. His arms did pretty good, and he only had one line come off the tank. He did lose a coolant line too. One hell of a wreck and an AWESOME job photographing it. __________________ Thanks to Sniper Fab, Maxxis, ARB, BS Trailer Sales, Bulldog Winches, Powertank, Trail Ready Beadlocks, PSC, Lazerstar Lights, Spidertrax, Longview Driveshaft.

04-13-2009, 10:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
TEX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 603 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 14,194	BTW, here's the car after it was all said & done: http://www.mudracersassociation.com/...php?f=12&t=657 __________________ www.probog.com Thanks to: www.heiseroil.com Extreme Performance www.kmelectronics.com Bear Creek Auto Recyclers www.svrehorsepower.com

04-22-2009, 06:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
TEX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 603 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 14,194	Here's video of the crash and several more "successful" passes: YouTube - Cobbtown Race __________________ www.probog.com Thanks to: www.heiseroil.com Extreme Performance www.kmelectronics.com Bear Creek Auto Recyclers www.svrehorsepower.com

04-22-2009, 06:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
fuggy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 80664 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,054	Cool! Those dragster look hard to control and keep in a straight line! __________________ "Even if you get to the line first are you really "winning" if you do it in a Toyota?"-raceanything

04-22-2009, 07:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
TEX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 603 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 14,194	Yeah, a lot of guys wonder what's so tough about just running a straight line - keeping it in a straight line IS the tough part LOL. __________________ www.probog.com Thanks to: www.heiseroil.com Extreme Performance www.kmelectronics.com Bear Creek Auto Recyclers www.svrehorsepower.com

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