Pirate4x4/Shaffer's Offroad race the Terrible Town 400 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

DSI · 12-02-2006, 10:22 AM

the first Trophy truck was about 830, the 1705 started 2nd to last (late registration) and crossed the start at 9:08, and 2/3 of the feild beat our chace truck to pit 1, which the managed to make in 19 min :wow:

as we were pulling up to pit one we got a quick shot of them in the corner...

DSI · 12-02-2006, 10:38 PM

started 17th and were in 4th at the end of the first lap. got clipped by a class 1 car about 4 miles out of the main pit, and damaged a wheel.

took a 4 min pit, checked the front suspension, steering, shocks, rear drive shaft, and u-bolts, added 11 gallons of gas and changed the left rear tire.

they were 10 min behind the leader after lap one, and by pit one had closed it up a bit, but had a serious issue somewhere after pit 3. the unibody collapsed allowing hte pass side motor mount to drop through the frame, letting the harmonic balancer hit the trac bar brace, stalling the serp belt, so, the water pump stopped turning, alternator, etc etc... so that slowed there gain on the lead down conciderably, but were able to hold 4th place for the finish.

Mike & Camo, Good job!

FatCity · 12-03-2006, 10:03 AM

Good Job

Whitewater · 12-04-2006, 08:42 AM

Wow! Good job guys!
I would have come down to pit and chase but I was clueless on the whole matter. Too bad about the issues but great job on the finish!

RedBspot · 12-04-2006, 04:55 PM

4th place overall ?? Get IT!

Rock Ape · 12-04-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBspot

4th place overall ?? Get IT!

DSI · 12-04-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Ape

they were the 4th vehicle to cross the finish podium, and did place 4th in JeepSpeed.

so yes, 4th overall

Dirty Harry · 12-04-2006, 08:30 PM

Dirt Newz showed them finishing 4th in class but as the 19th overall four wheeled finisher.

DSI · 12-05-2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Dirt Newz showed them finishing 4th in class but as the 19th overall four wheeled finisher.

while you do have the correct overall race finish results Harry, different classes run different numbers of laps, and since jeepspeed ran less laps than TT's and Class 1's etc, they were the first class finished, meaning mike was the 4th vehicle to drive onto the podium

and 4th overall for the jeepspeed class...

Shaffers Offroad · 12-05-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Dirt Newz showed them finishing 4th in class but as the 19th overall four wheeled finisher.

This race was so much fun!
I think the best part was camo saying, We are doing 70MPH and i can not see the end of the hood in this dust-get it get it get it!

Next year is going to be a blast!

I just need to find a co-driver

Mike

TeenyCAR · 12-05-2006, 09:58 PM

Did you guys plate the unibody frame? It would be pretty cool to see some detailed pics of what it took to finish Baja. How are the Dana 30's holding up? I don't understand how they can stink so bad for rockcrawling but somehow live for desert abuse, especially jumping as the balljoints are terrible.

raceanything · 12-07-2006, 10:03 AM

Great job Mike and Camo (I know I should have been there, sorry) so where does this put you in your first points race?

I was wondering about the ball joints too. Since the 30 has upside-down ball joints with the nut on the bottom the joint would be in tension when you land and compression when the tire droops.
Seems like with a light weight 33" alum wheel and no traction pulling down (like a rockcrawler has driving the tire down into a hole) the 44 or old 30 right side-up ball joint would be great. I don't think they can be weaker in tension then they can in compression since it's a ball in nylon socket design. I know my 44 took some major air (6'+ every weekend) and hard landings on crappy suspension and I only replaced maybe 1 or 2 ball joints in 6 years.

DSI · 12-07-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenyCAR

Did you guys plate the unibody frame? It would be pretty cool to see some detailed pics of what it took to finish Baja. How are the Dana 30's holding up? I don't understand how they can stink so bad for rockcrawling but somehow live for desert abuse, especially jumping as the balljoints are terrible.

with the cage being tied into the chassis from front to rear, the underside unibody didn't get any plating, the front wheel well areas did to help strengthen the coil bucket's and the shock mounts.

the D30 holds up fairly well because you don't use 4wd all the time, only in silt bed's and sand wash's etc. so 95+% of teh time it's just along for the ride. the balljoint's last 2 races if you are lucky... it's a good thing Napa offer's lifetime warrenty's

DSI · 12-07-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by raceanything

Great job Mike and Camo (I know I should have been there, sorry) so where does this put you in your first points race?

tied for 5th for the season

jwag · 12-07-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SHAFFERS OFFROAD

This race was so much fun!
I think the best part was camo saying, We are doing 70MPH and i can not see the end of the hood in this dust-get it get it get it!

Next year is going to be a blast!

I just need to find a co-driver

Mike

I'm in, I'll even talk like him

YJgirl · 12-07-2006, 11:15 AM

This was my first desert race and I had a hell of a good time! Great finish Mike and Camo!!!!

DSI, Jason, Mel and I were pit crew/photography. Mel and I rendered the guys speechless on several occasions, and I think I made them blush at least once.

Good times had by all!!

Enough about that, pics! Sunrise race day:

Your run of the mill $40K UTV

The TT that threw a rock at me....I was a bit too close tho.

All the JeepSpeed pics are on Camo's camrea, so sorry, no tengo nada que compartir.

DSI · 12-07-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by YJgirl

This was my first desert race and I had a hell of a good time! Great finish Mike and Camo!!!!

DSI, Jason, Mel and I were pit crew/photography. Mel and I rendered the guys speechless on several occasions, and I think I made them blush at least once.

Good times had by all!!

yea, the waxing conversation, and asking about shaving places a man should never shave.... yea....

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Originally Posted by YJgirl

All the JeepSpeed pics are on Camo's camrea, so sorry, no tengo nada que compartir.

english please?

YJgirl · 12-07-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DSI

english please?

lol
no tengo nada que compartir = i don't have anything to share.

DSI · 12-07-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by YJgirl

lol
no tengo nada que compartir = i don't have anything to share.

thank you

Whitewater · 12-07-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAFFERS OFFROAD

This race was so much fun!
I think the best part was camo saying, We are doing 70MPH and i can not see the end of the hood in this dust-get it get it get it!

Next year is going to be a blast!

I just need to find a co-driver

Mike

I told you in Mexico... If you ever need a co-driver just let me know.

raceanything · 12-07-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DSI

tied for 5th for the season

So.. first time you've ever built an XJ and raced desert you go top five in the series, run Jeepers Jamboree and Win the Baja 1000 in the same year? Nice.

I think SOR is going to be busy.

12-02-2006, 10:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
DSI Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: May 2000 Member # 920 Location: The Land of Debauchery (NV) Posts: 15,130	Pirate4x4/Shaffer's Offroad race the Terrible Town 400 the first Trophy truck was about 830, the 1705 started 2nd to last (late registration) and crossed the start at 9:08, and 2/3 of the feild beat our chace truck to pit 1, which the managed to make in 19 min :wow: as we were pulling up to pit one we got a quick shot of them in the corner... Attached Images __________________ Thanks to the companies that make it happen: Bilstein Shock Absorbers, Trail-Gear, Trent Fab, PRP Seats, Raceline Wheels, PSC, MJ Motorsports

12-02-2006, 10:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
DSI Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: May 2000 Member # 920 Location: The Land of Debauchery (NV) Posts: 15,130	started 17th and were in 4th at the end of the first lap. got clipped by a class 1 car about 4 miles out of the main pit, and damaged a wheel. took a 4 min pit, checked the front suspension, steering, shocks, rear drive shaft, and u-bolts, added 11 gallons of gas and changed the left rear tire. they were 10 min behind the leader after lap one, and by pit one had closed it up a bit, but had a serious issue somewhere after pit 3. the unibody collapsed allowing hte pass side motor mount to drop through the frame, letting the harmonic balancer hit the trac bar brace, stalling the serp belt, so, the water pump stopped turning, alternator, etc etc... so that slowed there gain on the lead down conciderably, but were able to hold 4th place for the finish. Mike & Camo, Good job! __________________ Thanks to the companies that make it happen: Bilstein Shock Absorbers, Trail-Gear, Trent Fab, PRP Seats, Raceline Wheels, PSC, MJ Motorsports

12-03-2006, 10:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
FatCity Adnimistrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2870 Location: Wildomar, Ca. Posts: 2,424	Good Job __________________ FatCity Off-Road Racing

12-04-2006, 08:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
Whitewater Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 89 Location: ElDoCo Posts: 3,672	Wow! Good job guys! I would have come down to pit and chase but I was clueless on the whole matter. Too bad about the issues but great job on the finish! __________________ "Having too many 'things', American's spend their hours and money on the couch searching for a soul. A strange species we are... If I wanted to destroy a nation, I would give it too much and I would have it on it's knees, miserable, greedy and sick." -John Steinbeck

12-04-2006, 04:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
RedBspot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 15195 Location: Imperial Beach Ca. Posts: 510	4th place overall ?? Get IT! __________________ Pro Mod #619 PRP Racing seats Howe Preformance Power steering Fox Shox Spider Trax Trail-Gear Inc. PowerTank JE Reel Drivelines Airaid Fitler company Winchline.com The 12Voltguy

12-04-2006, 08:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dirty Harry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2242 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,536	Dirt Newz showed them finishing 4th in class but as the 19th overall four wheeled finisher. __________________ Harry Situations Harry Wagner Freelance 4WD Writing & Photography Vehicle Features, Tech, & Trail Reports

12-05-2006, 09:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
TeenyCAR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63225 Posts: 1,511	Did you guys plate the unibody frame? It would be pretty cool to see some detailed pics of what it took to finish Baja. How are the Dana 30's holding up? I don't understand how they can stink so bad for rockcrawling but somehow live for desert abuse, especially jumping as the balljoints are terrible.

12-07-2006, 10:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
raceanything Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13471 Location: danville,CA Posts: 1,088	Great job Mike and Camo (I know I should have been there, sorry) so where does this put you in your first points race? I was wondering about the ball joints too. Since the 30 has upside-down ball joints with the nut on the bottom the joint would be in tension when you land and compression when the tire droops. Seems like with a light weight 33" alum wheel and no traction pulling down (like a rockcrawler has driving the tire down into a hole) the 44 or old 30 right side-up ball joint would be great. I don't think they can be weaker in tension then they can in compression since it's a ball in nylon socket design. I know my 44 took some major air (6'+ every weekend) and hard landings on crappy suspension and I only replaced maybe 1 or 2 ball joints in 6 years. __________________ Jeff Mello Rage 4th "safety is our #2 concern"

12-07-2006, 11:15 AM	#16 (permalink)
YJgirl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Member # 28563 Location: Colorful Colorado Posts: 368	This was my first desert race and I had a hell of a good time! Great finish Mike and Camo!!!! DSI, Jason, Mel and I were pit crew/photography. Mel and I rendered the guys speechless on several occasions, and I think I made them blush at least once. Good times had by all!! Enough about that, pics! Sunrise race day: Your run of the mill $40K UTV The TT that threw a rock at me....I was a bit too close tho. All the JeepSpeed pics are on Camo's camrea, so sorry, no tengo nada que compartir. __________________ Stay The Trail: helping educate to keep trails open for future generations 4481 Hardaway Racing

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