Dakar 'SCORE' rules??

[Mieser]

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the score/dakar class rules?

[Whitewater]

You can buy a copy of the SCORE rulebook on their website http://www.score-international.com/
SCORE does not put on the Dakar race, that is an entirely different animal but you can start here http://www.dakar.com/

[Mieser]

Thanks...

There is a specific ruleset for the dakar race that allows for 'score' spec vehicles from the usa to enter in the Dakar race. I looked in last years SCORE rulebook and couldn't find anything...along with nothing on the Dakar site. Generally the Dakar falls under FIA rules which are much more restrictive.

[Billy_Manfroy]

I'm not entirely positive, but my guess is that only applies to the protruck class that a few guys have run over there the past few years. Our typical long-travel buggies and trucks are frowned upon over there and don't fit in any class I know of.

[Mieser]

robby gordons hummer isn't a pro-truck and its running over there this year?

[jbt]

I think that the biggest difference is that they have to have restrictors on the intake. I think most engines have around 300hp in the Dakar. Some also have restriction in suspension travel. That eliminates some SCORE classes.

[Whitewater]

Originally Posted by Mieser

Thanks...

There is a specific ruleset for the dakar race that allows for 'score' spec vehicles from the usa to enter in the Dakar race. I looked in last years SCORE rulebook and couldn't find anything...along with nothing on the Dakar site. Generally the Dakar falls under FIA rules which are much more restrictive.

alright, I figured there was more to the question than I was reading into it. Just wanted to point out the obvious.

[Mieser]

Hence the 'SCORE' class in dakar. I know gordons hummer has an intake restricter but also has 20" of front and rear travel. He is also able to run much larger tires than most of the other cars??

[Billy_Manfroy]

I don't race there, and I don't know Robby, but I heard the officials gave him 3 years to run the buggy (it can hardly be considered a hummer) with restrictions, but the other manufacturers and competitors were NOT happy about it. He'll have to build something more inline with the published rules to go back. I heard him compare it to schlesser's buggy which is legal, but I don't know what the true differences are. That thing supposedly does not conform to the rules, but I don't know specifically what they're not happy about. My guess is tire size is a whole other matter.

[Mieser]

That explains it...I was wondering.

The FIA rules are pretty dang strict even in the T1 class that the 'buggies' run in.

http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...pJ_Art_285.pdf

Restrictor plates, weight penalties for engine displacement, and strict rules on wheel travel! Only 250mm for IFS and 300mm for solid axles! There is also a max tire diameter of only 810mm for 4x4 and 890mm for 2x4 ( thats like a 31! ). The 2wd cars can run CTIS but the 4wd cars cannot.

Hell, to me the T4 truck class looks like a lot more fun!

[mustange70]

It'd be interesting to see what a unrestricted trophy truck would do in the dakar.

[Triaged]

Originally Posted by mustange70

It'd be interesting to see what a unrestricted trophy truck would do in the dakar.

That's easy. It would run very fast...till it runs out of gas somewhere in the middle of the Sahara

If you want to know about the rules...just read them
http://www.dakar.com/2007/DAK/presen..._camion_us.pdf

If you want to talk about the Dakar shoot me an email (triaged at gmail dot com). Are you going to be designing a SCORE legal car for the race? I've already started on next years

[Stupid frnch jackasS]

Originally Posted by Mieser

Restrictor plates, weight penalties for engine displacement, and strict rules on wheel travel! Only 250mm for IFS and 300mm for solid axles! There is also a max tire diameter of only 810mm for 4x4 and 890mm for 2x4 ( thats like a 31! ). The 2wd cars can run CTIS but the 4wd cars cannot.

Hell, to me the T4 truck class looks like a lot more fun!

The wheel travel is limited only for 4WD, I think the wheel size and max. width are the biggest points wher RG's hummer would fail to comply the FIA rulebook.

[89hawk]

Does anyone know where to find info on the trucks from the 80s? This is when the big trucks were unrestricted and went 130+ in the dunes. I have not been able to find any good info on them.

[Mieser]

Thanks for the rule list Triaged, that helped a lot.

I need to look back into the FIA rulebook, but I thought I remembered seeing a limitation of travel for both 2wd and 4wd cars.

The tire size in dakar is upped to 33" for 4wd and 37" for 2wd and I didn't see a tire width restriction, only an overall vehicle width restriction of 2.2m on everything but the 2wd open cars ( 2.4m )

Overall its very interesting....