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Old 08-25-2011, 05:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I know this should probably be posted in the Expedition Forum but there are not too many Dodge guys there, I found a 2001 Dodge 15 passenger Maxivan that was converted to 4x4 when new for sale, the owner states that it was converted when new, and he got id directly through Chrysler as he was doing some video work for them (Camp Jeep, Commercials etc..) My question is who was building Dodge 4x4 conversions back in 2001? Quigley? Pathfinder? Quadravan? The van is in Colorado, and I am waiting for some more detailed pictures, but trying to figure out what axle / TC might be in this thing. This would be an awesome "Baja Bus" and I am seriously thinking about buying it to build into an EXPO rig. Thanks Murf
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Pathfinder seems to still be around, or someone has taken the name and run with it. I suppose that they could still be doing conversions. Hopefully the van itself will have some sort of data plate on it by the conversion company. Ford axles were used in the old ones but it's hard to say with all the driver side drop axles used today. Post pics when you get them, I'd like to see how they did the conversion on a '91 since they don't have a full frame anymore.
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Pathfinder seems to still be around, or someone has taken the name and run with it. I suppose that they could still be doing conversions. Hopefully the van itself will have some sort of data plate on it by the conversion company. Ford axles were used in the old ones but it's hard to say with all the driver side drop axles used today. Post pics when you get them, I'd like to see how they did the conversion on a '01 since they don't have a full frame anymore.
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I had heard about them being unibodys but I have never actually looked under one and seen how they were built. Seems like kind of a waste to me making them a unibody cause unibody's are weaker but w/e...
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Not sure this helps but I had a 94 4X4 conversion and it was done by Quigley.
They used a radius arm for the lower and a link bar for the upper, rode like shit... They had the t-case clocked so hard it hung down to where I'd catch it on stuff on construction sites. Front axle was a Ford 8 lug 44 and the rear was a 9 1/4...



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Old 08-26-2011, 02:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So far all I have is crappy photos, and this from the owner

I received the van directly from Dodge because I am in the TV production business and through the years I have produced quite a number of specials and commercials for the Dodge Division. They actually had one of their suppliers do the beautiful and clean 4-wheel drive conversion prior to my receipt of the vehicle. I don't remember the name of the conversion company but should you have interest I will research that information.







It is a 3500, so I am assuming it is a D60 in the rear?

Get this, it only has 300 original miles!

All I can get from the pics is that it has 33 x 12.50 x 16.5" tires and I can see the top of the TC shifter knob in the dash pic...

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If i had the money and was in the market, I'd buy that thing in a half a second. It looks sweet. The only thing i'd be leary of is who did the conversion, like, is it a reputable shop as he says? or did some hack do it and you'll have to fix it? I personally would rather have a diesel van if I'm getting a 4x4 one, but if the price was decent on this I wouldn't hesitate. The roof rack looks pretty sweet too actually.
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The tires look like they have more mileage than the 300 listed but they could have been off something else. Even if the mileage is higher, it looks really nice and if the price is right, I'd go for it if it all checks out. I'd look the conversion over good and drive it to make sure it's not a nightmare. Might be a reason it has low miles, lol.
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Pathfinder seems to still be around, or someone has taken the name and run with it. I suppose that they could still be doing conversions. Hopefully the van itself will have some sort of data plate on it by the conversion company. Ford axles were used in the old ones but it's hard to say with all the driver side drop axles used today. Post pics when you get them, I'd like to see how they did the conversion on a '91 since they don't have a full frame anymore.
I did not think the B series van ever had a frame, I had a 1981 B250 conversion van that was unibody. I assumed they were unibody starting in 1971. I like the fact that the Van is the LAST holdout of the OLD Chrysler Corp. Before even the first bailout and before the Daimler crap.
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Hmm, I was thinking that the older ones did have a full frame but looking at my '74-'77 Parts Manual, at first glance it does list a separate frame like the pickups but when you look closer it's channel rails with the opening at the top to be welded to the floor so I guess they are unibody. I never really paid that much attention to the vans.
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man, if the price was right, i would snatch that thing up right quick.
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Dodge vans going back to the A series were all unibody. So were the competitors.
That is a large van and if it came from Chrysler that way I doubt it is a hachet job.
It would be interesting how they mounted the front axle though.

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Looks to be a super-duty front axle?
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Looks clean, but it has a bonk in the sliding door, and I don't think they had crinkley bent tailpipes stock. It looks really clean, but I'd be pretty skeptical of 300 miles.
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Old 09-12-2011, 12:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Finally got some more info, it was converted by Salem Kroeger out of Red Bluff Ca.

And a few pics of the underside.






The pics look like it only has 300 miles... Anyone recognize the front axle? I sure wish he would have taken better pics, including the Transfer Case.

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looks like a superduty front axle
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Yeah, I'd guess a Ford Superdoody axle. Looks pretty clean and it seems he's taken care of it. Even put it on stands to keep from flat spotting the tires. Not sure what's up with that trackbar though.
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That van is awesome! If that Van had a Cummins I would tear out the seats and turn it into a camper and tow my offroad Dodge. That would be a great hunting camping rig for up here.
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Looks pretty damn clean, and that exhaust does look to be stock judging by the stainless appearance and the muffler. If the price is right, I'd buy it. Just be prepared to replace all of the evap hoses/tubes if it has to pass emissions. All of our Dodges at work are that vintage and have evap system leaks because the hoses dry rot really bad.
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Salem Kroger does a lot of conversions for utility companies and has done them for quite some time. They will also convert class C's
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Salem Kroger does a lot of conversions for utility companies and has done them for quite some time. They will also convert class C's
Looks like they are out of business, website phone numbers no good and emails as well, they were installing nv 270 divorced t/c in conversions Advanced Adapters told me last week, shame, anybody had contactwith them or know the scoop???
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dodge b300 pathfinder

this is my dodge b300 pathfinder


i am rebulding the np203 with a 501 mile marker set

so now i can drive 2 wheel drive when i like in low and high

i still have to repair the front drive shaft and the hubs

nekst step is to replace the wheels for 35 x 12.5 at tires

but ok i like all the 4x4 vans and its verry fun to drive but ok verry bad to park it in the sity

greetings to everybody and i no my englisch is not so good

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Van is cool but what ever the fuck is on trailer not so much.
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Looks almost like a CRX on a 4x4 chassis. Love the van, I can only imagine how uncommon something like that is in the Netherlands.
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this is my dodge b300 pathfinder


i am rebulding the np203 with a 501 mile marker set

so now i can drive 2 wheel drive when i like in low and high

i still have to repair the front drive shaft and the hubs

nekst step is to replace the wheels for 35 x 12.5 at tires

but ok i like all the 4x4 vans and its verry fun to drive but ok verry bad to park it in the sity

greetings to everybody and i no my englisch is not so good

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Van is cool but what ever the fuck is on trailer not so much.
Sitting behind a 4x4 b200 it would have to be obscure, it's only fitting. Whatever it is on that trailer, i'd rock it without hesitation. I definitely thought CRX on 4x4 frame at second glance, first glance older Laser on 4x4 frame.


rvanderende, how about some more pics of the suspension and drivetrain setup. What is the drivetrain btw...?
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