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Old 01-03-2012, 07:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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SAS Dakota 2WD

Okay before I get zinged I am not asking for a parts list or help in any way. My search button is strong young Jedis. I wanted to know if any would be interested in pictures and progress. If not I wont waste my time recording the swap. Thank you all and have a good day.
p.s it is a 1993 3.9l v6

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Old 01-04-2012, 12:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Spidr and I are not the only ones?
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Okay, sounds good. First cut is going to be Sunday so I will start down-loading when the sparks start to fly.

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Old 01-04-2012, 10:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Cool man. What your plans for the truck??
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Old 01-05-2012, 04:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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First is spring over 14-Bolt rear then progressing into a Corporate 10-Bolt (yes people I know it's all I have for the time being) for the front. After the truck is upright I am going to mix an np208 from a grand cherokee and a chevy K20 to get the right drop. Combine this with the machine shop I work at and it should be a success. I am shooting for less than 10" of lift total on 33" tires for now.
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grand cherokee's never came with 208's
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Sorry meant wagoner. But I am only using the input shaft from said vehicle.
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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damn man 10" of lift and 33's. You are defanitely not trying to acheive a LCOG
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[QUOTE=nick02;13821050]Spidr and I are not the only ones?
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I don't know about that. Right now the Dakota scrapes on normal curbs. I think 10" is a nice modest place to start. Most other SAS Dakotas land in the 12"-15" from what I see. Just my thoughts lol.
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I don't know about that. Right now the Dakota scrapes on normal curbs. I think 10" is a nice modest place to start. Most other SAS Dakotas land in the 12"-15" from what I see. Just my thoughts lol.
Then main thing is making sure you move the front axle forward enough to keep the tires out of the firewall. Don't limit yourself to 33's when designing it.

If you are using leafs and trying to stay low, you should look at using sliders instead of shackles.
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The current plan is leafs yes and I am shooting for mounting the shackles as high as possible. I have no intention of creating a monster truck, but I do want to be able to raise it more later. I just so happen to have a donor'ish vehicle with 33"s lying dead in my driveway. I have the axles laying behind the Kota and tommorow is D-day so we will see.
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The current plan is leafs yes and I am shooting for mounting the shackles as high as possible. I have no intention of creating a monster truck, but I do want to be able to raise it more later. I just so happen to have a donor'ish vehicle with 33"s lying dead in my driveway. I have the axles laying behind the Kota and tommorow is D-day so we will see.
What are your plans for getting rid of the coil-buckets in order to run leaf springs?
It may be easier to run coils in a 2wd fame, Spidr ran XJ (or zj?) lift coils in the stock coil pockets, he simply fabbed up a panhard mount and that was the end of the frame-side modifications (less the steering and other crap). His truck was sick, he ran a divorced d300 to a pass drop front axle and that thing sat LOW on 36's,

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I started it today yes. So far I have both donor axles pulled and the rear is complete. It was snowing today and my cousin needed a cv shaft repaired so day one was not very productive. I was looking into coil springs but in the future it may be difficult to increase their load capacity if I desire a more robust engine. That and I have limited funds and all the parts for leafs already. I don't think the truck can get any lower with 33"s but we will see how the front comes out.
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The driver side is mint. Maybe half the truck got factory painted on a thursday afternoon and the other half on a friday morning...
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In response to your pm.....


The 44044's are a perfect spring for a 2200kg truck. They flex really well and the flatten right out on compresion (up travel). As for the amount of lift.....well I never really measured but if I had to guess I would say roughly 8-10''. I would like to make my current 3" body lift a 2" body lift to lower it a little.

As for pics check out these threads:

http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/...d.php?t=142709

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What are your plans for getting rid of the coil-buckets in order to run leaf springs?
It may be easier to run coils in a 2wd fame, Spidr ran XJ (or zj?) lift coils in the stock coil pockets, he simply fabbed up a panhard mount and that was the end of the frame-side modifications (less the steering and other crap). His truck was sick, he ran a divorced d300 to a pass drop front axle and that thing sat LOW on 36's,
It was all right. And Id do it again. It just collects dust in the corner of my shop now though, when my old man blew the motor in it that was basically it.
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I just realized now that it wasn't you that pm'd me. Sorry man. I can delete my last post if you want me too.
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No worries lol I am compliant. I have a set of Rancho 4" springs for a Toyota mini. I couldn't begin to tell you the part number. It will likely take me a week to iron out the rack and pinion problem and mount the axle. As things progress I will update everyone.
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And you have to love 90's dodge paint. I have had it repainted once already but nothing sticks to that crap primer.
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No worries lol I am compliant. I have a set of Rancho 4" springs for a Toyota mini. I couldn't begin to tell you the part number. It will likely take me a week to iron out the rack and pinion problem and mount the axle. As things progress I will update everyone.
I ran all pro toy springs when I first did my swap and they were about perfect.

What your plan for the shackle? Front or back?

If you are planning on the shackle in the back, french the hanger in so you don't need to have the front hanger mount hang down as low. Will help with overall height and approach angle. Check out Varis's thread he did a nice job.
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I am planning on front shackle for now. I am not worried at all about a lower ride quality on the road (for those about to ask lol) and I don't go rock crawling very often. I thought very hard about the shackle issue. Frenching the frame may be the solution if I find forward shackles unlivable. Besides a giant cross member hanging down up front make my butt twitch more than two little shackles, I will keep a spare main leaf in back.
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So it looks like I am going to be able to start the front axle this Friday. Stay tuned for more hits kiddies.
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While I love the 14b, it's going to be a plow with only 33's. What gears does the axle currenlty have?
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