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Old 03-11-2013, 08:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2001 cummins Dually Project Ideas?

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2001.5 300k miles Cummins Dually, 6-speed, 2wd, bone stock with the exception of straight pipe exhaust and an electric cooling fan. The truck is a little beat up but not bad... cracked passenger side dually fender, cracked dash and puncture in the A/C radiatior. has the 55 block and the interior is nearly perfect with the exception of the dash.
The ride quality:
I have never ridden in a 2wd or drove one before this truck and I can see why the Texans love'em! At about 55mph and above the passenger door sounds like a hurricane outside. The steering is tighter than a nuns corset. 6th gear wont engage unless I slam it (does not grind). It has disk brakes in the rear so it stops on a dime.
How I acquired this truck:
Well short and simply put, I traded my 1990 W150 turbocharged V10 for it. Blue Book on the 1990 was $2900 and Blue Book on the 01 is $8900 in poor condition. So yes I traded up... dollar wise.
The plan for the truck thus far subject to change:
The outcome will be a lifted 6" above a stock 4x4 and 38" Michelin military tires. Long arm 4-link front end with a 2000 dana 60. I want a RELIABLE 600-700 Hp or 1200 lb/ft. and still get decent hwy mpg. I want the truck to be well enough equipped so I never have to worry about getting stuck, stranded, or broke down.

My reasoning is that if im going with a long arm front end I'm going to be cutting, welding, and grinding anyways so removing the IFS is no big deal plus I'm looking at a custom front drive shaft anyways, I have the front axle sitting in my back yard and a transfer case NP241, but i don't want to use that I want to use NP273 or a divorced trannie... any suggestions? I was thinking the NP273 because i think it will bolt up the the NV5600? also if I use the NP273 I can use the electronic shift and I wont have to change the trannie for 4x4 linkage. The only hard part is the electric switch also I like the cup holder in place of the 4x4 shifter. So what are your guys thoughts, concerns, or criticism?
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 2001 cummins Dually Project Ideas?

Why that lift for a drw?
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Why that lift for a drw?
Cuse duallys are zombie killers!!! Haha no seriously I pull a skid steer frequently and 2 seperate ocasions I blew tires on the dually and thank God i had a that extra tire
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I started with a 2wd add a nv5600 ,divorce np205 , and a dana60 on leafs.It rides great and no more getting stuck.
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I started with a 2wd add a nv5600 ,divorce np205 , and a dana60 on leafs.It rides great and no more getting stuck.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Awesome, nice job! I just dont think i want to do a leaf front end... I beleive that your rig drives nice, but I spent the last 6 years on leaf springs and I have grown to hate them. So on the other hand do you regret doing the work or are you like me that likes that kind of project? The more people that tell me not to or tell me to dont waste my time the more ambitions i get.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I really wanted to 4 link it with coils but i couldnt have the truck down that long so i just went quick and easy.It rides smother then it was 2wd you just need the proper springs.Im not telling you to not link it, if you can do it just takes planning.
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I really wanted to 4 link it with coils but i couldnt have the truck down that long so i just went quick and easy.It rides smother then it was 2wd you just need the proper springs.Im not telling you to not link it, if you can do it just takes planning.
I bet it does ride nicer than before. I just spent the last 6 years of my life on leaf springs and i have grown to hate them. So anyways i think a long arm link will be my direction with the project. I built a customized 4 link long arm for my dads 06 then it got repod. But i still have the patters so i can make some more castings and get everything in place. Or the other option is a "bolt on kit". But im skeptical about quality. Anybody trust some of the name brand long arm kits? Also bushwacker says they make a 3" fender flare kit for the dually but i have yet to see a picture of one?
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Don't buy a kit just peace together the brackets and build your own links.there was a good Thread on this before I think 78stepside started it.
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I don't think he's doig it anymore so you mit be able to get the buckets from him.
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So i crawled under my truck yesterday. I started thinking about how easy it would actually be to attach a Dana 60 to the stock 2wd front A-arms. Using shackes on each side and cutting off the ball joint tabs and welding brackets on the axles for the shackles. My logic is that if i can make it strong enough 40 inch tires will clear the stock A-arms and i wont have control arms in the way. Has this ever been done before and i dont mean only on a dodge. Ive googled the shit out of this and with no results.
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Any body know what im talkin about?
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if i think you mean what you said.....please no................
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:14 PM   #15 (permalink)
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2001 cummins Dually Project Ideas?

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um are you trying to make a buggy leaf? or what maybe you can elaborate instead of me trying to invision the deathtrap you described? a long arm sounded great but now your brewing up homemade crap

cut off all ifs and build something
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BUild your truck JUST like the red one. Dont turn a possible bad ass truck into another big gay diesel fag truck.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Now we are making progress!!! Criticism is appreciated... any ways this picture is some what "in theory what i was thinking"...
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the leaf needed to support a cummins would be crazy that system is more complicated than just simple coils
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the leaf needed to support a cummins would be crazy that system is more complicated than just simple coils
Yes you are right, but instead of a leaf I would be using the stock Wishbones with shackles like this picture.
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You would have to use at least two links to keep it from folding under the truck so you may as well just add two more and link it.
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Like this. This is just a quick explanation, my main question is has this been done in modern day not a leaf front end from the 40's?
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I seriously doubt it's been done since it's a horrible idea. You would only get a little bit of up travel before the axle hits the bottom of the control arm. Also, the brake struts are not going to be strong enough to locate the axle when there is nothing but a shackle holding the rest of it.
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Awesome, well thanks for the info. This kind of response is exactly what im lookin for. So moving back to a linked design. How can i build this link system to where i can run at least a 38 inch tire with minimal amount of lift and not rub?
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All this sounds like a bunch of nigger rigging shit. Your truck prolly will fall apart driving it down the street. This has me worried...........
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