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Old 02-21-2002, 02:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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axle swap ideas??

open to any and all... recently tore up my 9 and 1/4 for the second time, going bigger and better! anyone swapped anything heavier into a 94-01 1500 ram?? i'd like to keep a 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern if possible. only thing i've been able to find there are the custom deals from dynatrac, etc. and it seems a few rare jeeps made it out with 5 lug 35 spline 60's. also need a provision for my vehicle speed sensor that mounts in the rearend... could this be machined into any axle??
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Old 02-21-2002, 08:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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seems like dodge 3/4 ton vans had an 8 lug semi floater dana 60, a set of moser axles in 5 x 5 1/2 would fix you up. Also seems like the width is a little different but don't think it would be a complete fubar.
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Old 02-21-2002, 09:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I wana know how you tore it up... I dont see how you can do it... they are pretty srong from what I have seen... If you want to go with a dana 60, I would pick up a used 72-93 dodge 60, strip it, put 9" ends on it, new detroit for 35 spline shafts, and put in some semi floating dutchman shafts, and also go for disk breaks... now there is another option.. that would be to put in a 14 bolt. Probabally the easiest way to do it is to just go 8 lug.. but i have read about maching down the 14 bolt hub, and opening up the center hole on your rims, and get the 14 bolt hub re-drilled to 5 on 5.5... I see that as being the strongest option out there. www.wagonermachine.com may be able to do it, but I dont know... I just think it would be cheaper and easier to get some wheel adapters for the front, 14 bolt rear, and some 8 lug rims... unless you have some really expensive rims... Hope I helped some. Garrett
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let's just say i have an addictive habit of roasting 38's on dry pavement... i'm not sure exactly what is broken, the first time i snapped it it blew the auburn and spiders to pieces. could be the same this time, in which case i may just throw a detroit in which i should have done in the first place. if the ring/pinion is screwed too, probably new axle. how much do those moser 5 on 5.5 shafts run? i know my current drums will bolt to a 60. that may be the budget way to go, i've located an 86 dana 60 for 150 bucks, complete drum to drum.
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Old 02-21-2002, 10:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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if you go with a 60 it had better be a 35 spline. I've been snapping 30 spline shafts in my other rig like they were toothpicks. Im converting over to 35 spline right now.

I would suggest that no matter what you do, short of shelling out $15,000 for a Chrisman, your "addictive habit" will blow out a 60 as well. If you havent beefed up your t-case yet you better start making plans for that too. I went with JB Conversions stuff and mine has held up great.

Id say, throw a detroit in your 9.25 and run it.
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Old 02-22-2002, 09:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
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moser gets around $295 a pair for axles. I have no idea whether the spline count is 35 or something else, I'd go with the 35 spline and change the axle gears or get a 35 spline power lock or detroit, I have a gtx with the d60 rear and have a hard time imagining anyone breaking one of these on a regular basis. Rufus, is that a full floater 60 or a semi floater?

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Old 02-22-2002, 10:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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why stay with the 5.5 pattern? dont want to have to change the front? see how hard it would be to change out for 3/4 ton 8 lug stuff in the front, then you could go with a full float 8 lug rear(14bolt or 60 or 70). i like the idea of full floaters, especially in a fullsize.
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i'd love to, but this thing has to be on a budget... i just dumped 1200 bucks on my nv4500 swap. keeping 5 lug will keep cost of new rims, etc. down. i would go 8 lug and just get new rear rims, but my rims only come in 16 inch 8 lug. have 15's. no, i haven't done any t-case upgrades yet... i was going to do a 241 swap along with the 4500, but things got too pricey. i'll probably just go with a slip yoke elim. and run it till it breaks. i'm not sure whether this 60 is full or not.
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the jeep pickup 60 is semi-float. not sure the width, but i know the rear diff is offset almost 6". any dynatrac axle will blow the budget for sure. not to sure what you could do. LAY OFF THE GAS?
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i may be in luck... have a line on a dana 60 from a ups truck. semi floating, and has a speed sensor provision. complete just missing a couple of brake parts. we'll see how it goes, i've got a ballpark figure of 1400 for it and it'll be locked and geared with new stuff.
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$1400! budget? wow. wish i had your money
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lol, that's a deal for around here on one that's been built!
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1400 is a damn lot.. bet ya could even get the semi floating 14 bolt for that.. and make sure it is 35 spline... because the 30 spline 60 shaft is smaller than a 9.25" shaft.
As for the 8 lug swap.. how do ya do it.. I have been looking into it.. and best i have found is wheel adapters.. there are no US dodge 3/4 ton dana 44 fronts, and the knuckles are much taller than the older dana 44's.. I only say this because i have thought about putting in a 14 bolt rear insted of re-gearing because it would cost about the same, and plus, my eagle 589's arent that expensive.. just have to sell em and buy a set of steels... but then, I only run 33", and I dunno if I even want to go 35's.. I like being able to fit into a parking garage (hell this is my daily driver, not my wheeling rig).. so for me, I may just keep the 9.25"... Let us know how it goes.
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yep, it is the 35 spline... what year are you putting a 14 bolt in? u can't on 98-01 (that i know of) due to the vehicle speed sensor in the rear. there was a 2500LD made in 94-95 i think that had a dana 44 front. i'm still checking on if it was 8 lug or not, i would think it is.
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96 Ram... I dunno about maching to get that speed sensor in there.. I am know a load of jack about it.. also something i have heard, and read last time I checked, is that the 2500's in Mexico have dana 44 fronts... Check the mexican dodge website.. I cant remember the addy...
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