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NorCal_Dakota · 01-25-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bajabomber87

yeah I would think it could use a lil bracing

I will add some bracing there, but I will take it to the opposite bolts.

What could I do to help the bolts from tearing? It is not installed, I am planning on switching out the bolts for grade 8's. I am trying to avoid putting to much money into the 44. I figure the ram can switch to the new front, but I didn't want to buy a HD cover. Will the stock cover be able to handle a ram once braced?

NorCal_Dakota · 01-25-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by varsis

just me but i would have welded that to the left of the diff unless that pump is too long.

But more support the better, but you got a bit of force on those tiny bolts holding the cover on.

I tried a few different places to mount. Off the diff cover gave me the best mounting overall. Tucked up, parallel, ect.

varsis · 01-25-2009, 05:40 PM

ah, you should of picked up one of those 3/8" diff covers. Heavy duty!

Bajabomber87 · 01-25-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCal_Dakota

but I didn't want to buy a HD cover.

you drive a 5 series

pay up

Befy · 03-22-2009, 05:36 PM

What are you using for front leafs?

I'm doing a similar swap and I have some rear s-10 leafs they look a lot longer than yours.

NorCal_Dakota · 03-24-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Befy

What are you using for front leafs?

I'm doing a similar swap and I have some rear s-10 leafs they look a lot longer than yours.

Toyota rears

KENNY-SAS DAKOTA · 03-24-2009, 01:04 PM

Looks good. Did almost the same to my 02 dakota...but i ran into the same problem that you did with your body lift and radiator. So you cut the support and then did your rad. Just rest on that x-member or wut? And another thing did you ever figure out wut rear axle you are gonna use?

NorCal_Dakota · 03-24-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KENNY-SAS DAKOTA

Looks good. Did almost the same to my 02 dakota...but i ran into the same problem that you did with your body lift and radiator. So you cut the support and then did your rad. Just rest on that x-member or wut? And another thing did you ever figure out wut rear axle you are gonna use?

Yeah, the radiator just sits on the x-member. I had a 14 bolt with detroit/disks lined up and I could never coordinate with the seller to pick it up so it fell through. Right now I am just trying to finish up things not having to do with the axles. I am setting money aside to pick up a set of 1 tons, and I might try to build a 609 for up front.

Right now I have it apart so I can inboard the shackle hangers to eliminate the offset shackles. I also got the diff cover gusseted some more so it should work until I redo the axles. I am hoping to have it back together in a few weeks and I am going to weld up the rear carrier and head to Hollister. I am sure once I break the stock rear I will be more motivated to find a new axle.

KENNY-SAS DAKOTA · 03-24-2009, 06:33 PM

Sweet...thats what i thought im gonna be takin my bodylift off asap...i have a lil more to cut than u did..lol.. I have to cuT my inner fender to clear my shock mounts and my powersteering box...wont take much to break that rear axle....peice of crap..lol...im just using the 9.25 rather than the 8.25..seems to hold up to the abuse...good luck....looks good.

varsis · 03-24-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCal_Dakota

Yeah, the radiator just sits on the x-member. I had a 14 bolt with detroit/disks lined up and I could never coordinate with the seller to pick it up so it fell through. Right now I am just trying to finish up things not having to do with the axles. I am setting money aside to pick up a set of 1 tons, and I might try to build a 609 for up front.

Right now I have it apart so I can inboard the shackle hangers to eliminate the offset shackles. I also got the diff cover gusseted some more so it should work until I redo the axles. I am hoping to have it back together in a few weeks and I am going to weld up the rear carrier and head to Hollister. I am sure once I break the stock rear I will be more motivated to find a new axle.

i in boarded my front hangers. Simpler for me. lol. working on setting up a front drive shaft here. Any pics of the hydro assist?

NorCal_Dakota · 03-25-2009, 09:02 AM

Not the best picture, but you can see the bracing I added to the cover

Here is a good overall to show the height, I am at 22" behind the front shackles and 24" where the frame angles up. I am going to cut out that stock crossmember that hangs below and weld in one that is flush so I can work on a belly skid.

KENNY-SAS DAKOTA · 03-25-2009, 09:19 AM

looks good..

sled0890 · 03-25-2009, 09:58 AM

wheres ur steering box mounted??? stock location???

ffdustyw · 03-25-2009, 10:24 AM

I haven't read through your entire thread but looking at your frontend and the way your springs are mounted your pinion angle under droop is going to drop away and is mounted pretty low. It looks like you need to cut and rotate your axle and reweld your spring pads. Pictures can be deceiving. I bring it up because I have a friend that has the same issues and he blows up U joints left and right.

NorCal_Dakota · 03-25-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ffdustyw

I haven't read through your entire thread but looking at your frontend and the way your springs are mounted your pinion angle under droop is going to drop away and is mounted pretty low. It looks like you need to cut and rotate your axle and reweld your spring pads. Pictures can be deceiving. I bring it up because I have a friend that has the same issues and he blows up U joints left and right.

I ran into that problem which is why my front shaft is off. That picture is before I cut the shackle hangers off and cut the spring pads to rotate the pinion up. I am hoping that I can point it up enough without having to also cut/turn the knuckles.

NorCal_Dakota · 03-25-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sled0890

wheres ur steering box mounted??? stock location???

It is in the stock location. I thought of moving it forward, but after hearing how much of a pain it would be I left it.

sled0890 · 03-25-2009, 01:01 PM

Thanks! did u use the stock pitman arm also??

varsis · 03-25-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCal_Dakota

I ran into that problem which is why my front shaft is off. That picture is before I cut the shackle hangers off and cut the spring pads to rotate the pinion up. I am hoping that I can point it up enough without having to also cut/turn the knuckles.

yea im going to probably have to do this. im looking into what I can do to fix this. my drive shaft is going to be in the 20 degree mark. Either get high angle cv joints on both ends or cut and turn. Which is not what I want to do. I got about 8 degree's I can play with. But i don't think it will be enough.

silvrbeastjr · 03-25-2009, 06:21 PM

what kind of welder are you using?

stickbug · 03-25-2009, 07:09 PM

It looks like your rear shackles (front axle) are sitting at different angles??

What you run your caster angle at??

NorCal_Dakota · 03-26-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by varsis

yea im going to probably have to do this. im looking into what I can do to fix this. my drive shaft is going to be in the 20 degree mark. Either get high angle cv joints on both ends or cut and turn. Which is not what I want to do. I got about 8 degree's I can play with. But i don't think it will be enough.

I am going to try these, http://www.4xshaft.com/Super-Flex.html

NorCal_Dakota · 03-26-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by silvrbeastjr

what kind of welder are you using?

4 year old Craftsmen flux core

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Originally Posted by stickbug

It looks like your rear shackles (front axle) are sitting at different angles??

What you run your caster angle at??

Its hard to tell but the passenger side tire is a couple inches lower.

I don't remember what I had the caster set at and the perches are off the axle. It was set at whatever I found while searching on here. I will see on Sunday what the caster will be with the pinion rotated up slightly. It handled all right before and I am hoping the hydro will help with any problems that show up.

NorCal_Dakota · 05-04-2009, 08:09 AM

So after beefing up the cover more, the tierod was hitting it, preventing full lock to lock steering. I ended up build a mount off the axle tube to eliminate this. I now use the full travel of the ram (8"). Everything is just tacked in place right now. Once it is welded to the axle, I am going to trim the top of the mount and box the backside. The mount on the ram was also rotated so the fittings were facing up.

Steering box reassembled and installed. Should I have fittings instead of the hoses going right into the box?

Lock to lock

I picked up this yesterday also, not 220, but much better than what I was using

NorCal_Dakota · 05-04-2009, 08:14 AM

New shackle mounts, shackles are 5" eye to eye.

It's level f/r, but the way it's parked makes the front look taller

varsis · 05-04-2009, 12:01 PM

i like how you did the frame boxing. Much better than what I did but mine still holding up. And iv beat on it pretty hard LOL.

01-25-2009, 05:40 PM	#128 (permalink)
varsis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Member # 115241 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 606	ah, you should of picked up one of those 3/8" diff covers. Heavy duty! __________________ 1997 Dakota, 4x4 green almost on 38's with 5.38 gears! and shift kit, with 5.9L mag. 64" deavers rear. [URL="http://4wheelin.ca"]http://4wheelin.ca[/URL]

03-24-2009, 01:04 PM	#132 (permalink)
KENNY-SAS DAKOTA Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Member # 110710 Location: REDDING,CA Posts: 94	Looks good. Did almost the same to my 02 dakota...but i ran into the same problem that you did with your body lift and radiator. So you cut the support and then did your rad. Just rest on that x-member or wut? And another thing did you ever figure out wut rear axle you are gonna use? __________________ 02 Dakota(SAS), D44, F/W 9.25,4.56,37X14.5X15 Toyo MT's NEED A 5.9 V8 W/AUTO TRANS Last edited by KENNY-SAS DAKOTA; 03-24-2009 at 01:05 PM.

03-24-2009, 06:33 PM	#134 (permalink)
KENNY-SAS DAKOTA Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Member # 110710 Location: REDDING,CA Posts: 94	Sweet...thats what i thought im gonna be takin my bodylift off asap...i have a lil more to cut than u did..lol.. I have to cuT my inner fender to clear my shock mounts and my powersteering box...wont take much to break that rear axle....peice of crap..lol...im just using the 9.25 rather than the 8.25..seems to hold up to the abuse...good luck....looks good. __________________ 02 Dakota(SAS), D44, F/W 9.25,4.56,37X14.5X15 Toyo MT's NEED A 5.9 V8 W/AUTO TRANS Last edited by KENNY-SAS DAKOTA; 03-24-2009 at 06:34 PM.

03-25-2009, 09:02 AM	#136 (permalink)
NorCal_Dakota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83806 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 379	Not the best picture, but you can see the bracing I added to the cover Here is a good overall to show the height, I am at 22" behind the front shackles and 24" where the frame angles up. I am going to cut out that stock crossmember that hangs below and weld in one that is flush so I can work on a belly skid. Last edited by NorCal_Dakota; 03-25-2009 at 09:03 AM.

03-25-2009, 09:19 AM	#137 (permalink)
KENNY-SAS DAKOTA Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Member # 110710 Location: REDDING,CA Posts: 94	looks good.. __________________ 02 Dakota(SAS), D44, F/W 9.25,4.56,37X14.5X15 Toyo MT's NEED A 5.9 V8 W/AUTO TRANS

03-22-2009, 05:36 PM	#130 (permalink)
Befy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Member # 122596 Location: Sault Michigan Posts: 173	What are you using for front leafs? I'm doing a similar swap and I have some rear s-10 leafs they look a lot longer than yours.

03-25-2009, 09:58 AM	#138 (permalink)
sled0890 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 103167 Posts: 41	wheres ur steering box mounted??? stock location??? __________________ 88 samurai currently chillin http://game.pirate4x4.com/register.php?ref_id=4114

03-25-2009, 10:24 AM	#139 (permalink)
ffdustyw Rock God Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25517 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 1,942 Blog Entries: 2	I haven't read through your entire thread but looking at your frontend and the way your springs are mounted your pinion angle under droop is going to drop away and is mounted pretty low. It looks like you need to cut and rotate your axle and reweld your spring pads. Pictures can be deceiving. I bring it up because I have a friend that has the same issues and he blows up U joints left and right. __________________ 97 Dodge 1500 Dueces, OEM spool/ARB, 54" Baja Claws, 16" Coilovers, Atlas II 3.8:1, PSC Full Hydro, Hughes Engines 408c.i. F.A.S.T/46re with 48re internals Kodiak Dodge Build:http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=702415 Dodge,Duck, Dip, Dive, & Dodge Last edited by ffdustyw; 03-25-2009 at 10:25 AM.

03-25-2009, 01:01 PM	#142 (permalink)
sled0890 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 103167 Posts: 41	Thanks! did u use the stock pitman arm also?? __________________ 88 samurai currently chillin http://game.pirate4x4.com/register.php?ref_id=4114

03-25-2009, 06:21 PM	#144 (permalink)
silvrbeastjr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Member # 92697 Location: TX Posts: 214	what kind of welder are you using?

03-25-2009, 07:09 PM	#145 (permalink)
stickbug Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 85580 Location: British Columbia Posts: 251	It looks like your rear shackles (front axle) are sitting at different angles?? What you run your caster angle at??

05-04-2009, 08:09 AM	#148 (permalink)
NorCal_Dakota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83806 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 379	So after beefing up the cover more, the tierod was hitting it, preventing full lock to lock steering. I ended up build a mount off the axle tube to eliminate this. I now use the full travel of the ram (8"). Everything is just tacked in place right now. Once it is welded to the axle, I am going to trim the top of the mount and box the backside. The mount on the ram was also rotated so the fittings were facing up. Steering box reassembled and installed. Should I have fittings instead of the hoses going right into the box? Lock to lock I picked up this yesterday also, not 220, but much better than what I was using

05-04-2009, 08:14 AM	#149 (permalink)
NorCal_Dakota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83806 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 379	New shackle mounts, shackles are 5" eye to eye. It's level f/r, but the way it's parked makes the front look taller

05-04-2009, 12:01 PM	#150 (permalink)
varsis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Member # 115241 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 606	i like how you did the frame boxing. Much better than what I did but mine still holding up. And iv beat on it pretty hard LOL. __________________ 1997 Dakota, 4x4 green almost on 38's with 5.38 gears! and shift kit, with 5.9L mag. 64" deavers rear. [URL="http://4wheelin.ca"]http://4wheelin.ca[/URL]

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