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Old 12-31-2007, 10:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4bt cummins: WHERE'D THEY COME FROM?

What vehicles has the 4bt motor in it? Thought I'd ask on here to get more info....
Are the wiring pretty simple for a motor swap conversion?I've heard that the wires are very limited.Is that true?Thanks.

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Old 12-31-2007, 11:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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frito lays vans and UPS vans?Correct? What else? Andthing that doesn't have to do with commercial use? Or is that what they only came in?
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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a buddy of mine has a backhoe with a 4b in it. It dont have a turbo. I think its an old case.
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Its said that its takes only a few wires to hook up and run.Is this true? No ECU?
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As long as they are mechanical motors, then yes that is correct. Electronically injected motors require more wires. This is generally true of all diesel engines.
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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like the engine, not the van....
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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That van is aluminum. You can pull the engine, trans, and rear end if you want it, and scrap the body and get almost $1,000. (I have no personal experience with doing that, I just read on 4btswaps that thats about what everyone is getting out of those old van bodies at the scrap yard.)
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like the engine, not the van....

You asked what vehicles have a 4BT in them. That's the most common one that I know of.
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You asked what vehicles have a 4BT in them. That's the most common one that I know of.
x2. I'm not sure what you're expecting at this point since you were asking about them in regards to doing an engine swap...
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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pardon me..... thought he was trying to sell me the vehicle....yes , I did more research and found that out also.Sad to find that they come out of those vehicle.Only problem is where to put that huge thing when pulling the engine out.yet store that thing...anyone got one for sale thats out already?


So all compconents are mechanical, so no ECU......Only little amount of wires.next question....So its pretty much compared to a gas carb setup,But does these motor perform like a carburated motor on Extreme angles? I hate Carbs(especially toy 22r's) they suck at angles. Is the 4bt comparable to a EFI swap when crawling and offroading ?I'm a gas person and don't know anything about how a diesel burn its fuel etc. School me please.

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It's not my van. Search for posts by Hammered Scout. He runs a 4bt in an early Scout. I think he even had an engine for sale recently.
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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yeah.saw his ad and his you-tube video clip of the motor in his yellow scout.thats what got me so interested in a 4bt.
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:25 PM   #15 (permalink)
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yeah.saw his ad and his you-tube video clip of the motor in his yellow scout.thats what got me so interested in a 4bt.
I've seen it in action. It's pretty bad ass. I think it's a little heavy though.
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I did some searching and the 4bt was said to have a weight of 700lbs, Thats alot of weight, but nice torque numbers.....
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nice link...Would be nice if they sell only the motor and not the whole vehicle.Like I said above.....
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I wonder what mpg people are getting on these repowers? I've gotten as high as 24 with 4x4 Cummins Dodges...
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I wonder what mpg people are getting on these repowers? I've gotten as high as 24 with 4x4 Cummins Dodges...
I've read 25-30MPG for guys with early broncos and 4BT swaps.
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It'll run upside down, under water, whatever. As long as it's got air and fuel... bout it.

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But does these motor perform like a carburated motor on Extreme angles? I hate Carbs(especially toy 22r's) they suck at angles. Is the 4bt comparable to a EFI swap when crawling and offroading ?I'm a gas person and don't know anything about how a diesel burn its fuel etc. School me please.
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Old 01-10-2008, 06:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I've read 25-30MPG for guys with early broncos and 4BT swaps.
I've done a few swaps into Landcruisers. Its a pretty popular mod in the FJ60s and FJ80s. I may be doing another one fairly soon as well. Here is one that I did:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/diesel-tech-...00r4-swap.html

Personally, I think 30mpg is a reach for the 4BT. They are efficient, but not "that" efficient. 25-26mpg hwy is about the norm/max. You can tune them up to as high as 450hp, but you will severely limit the life of the motor doing that. FWIW, the one linked came out of a bread van. Its now running around Fort Collins, CO.

It needs an OD tranny for hwy speeds above 55mph, and plan on spending twice what you think to get it going. They are not cheap swaps, so be prepared to have deeper pockets than you think.
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:20 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Yeah! Just what he said... Oh I just sold mine..Not Cheap.
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