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Old 04-13-2009, 09:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Towing with links

Sooo... Im throwing around the idea of linking my truck. Does anyone have any suggestions for me being able to retain the towing ability of the truck and being able to use the truck for what I'm building it for (the desert- it's a chase truck/weekend play truck as well)

It's a Cummins Ram if that matters...

I know there's the option of long travel air bags, but the longest I can get are 10" travel bags, which defeat the purpose of me linking it, because I can get more travel than that out of a deaver pack.

Ideas please... and pictures if available.
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I'm thinking about just running a set of airshocks with quick disconnects from the rear axle to the tube work in or under the bed...

Don't know how the ride would be, but it would limit travel and stiffen the back end...
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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what is the load capacity of those 10" travel bags?
I am pretty sure you can exceed the useful travel of a leaf pack with bags if you mount them up the links as they are available with enough capacity for 4 of them to carry 40000# with a long service life and do not need to be at a 1:1 ratio with the dif

links are not an issue with towing, spring rates, roll resistance, and dampening will be
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I am looking at the same idea for my tow rig. My truck is an '01 Ram 2500 Cummins HO. I have been eying some variant of a semi airbag similiar to the set up that Phil Bargman ran on his Land Cruiser in TTC '05

He was able to get a good amount of flex out of his set up and I am sure he had good adjustability in "spring rate". As far as the link arms go.... the heavier the better with some 1.25" rod ends for sure!
Hope that helps you out a little ZJ... This is my plan!
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Thanks guys

I should probably clarify what exactly I'll be doing... I'll likely be running a coilover and bypass in the rear. A desert set-up, so the CO/bypass will be off the link, not the axle.

It's either this route or an under-bed canti-lever system to get more travel out of the leaves while retaining them. But I'd really like to link it
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I am looking at the same idea for my tow rig. My truck is an '01 Ram 2500 Cummins HO. I have been eying some variant of a semi airbag similiar to the set up that Phil Bargman ran on his Land Cruiser in TTC '05

He was able to get a good amount of flex out of his set up and I am sure he had good adjustability in "spring rate". As far as the link arms go.... the heavier the better with some 1.25" rod ends for sure!
Hope that helps you out a little ZJ... This is my plan!
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And yes, the rod ends will be BEEF!
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Welp, the project will be starting soon. Ill keep ya'll posted. The next question is to keep the stock D70 or build the crap out of a 9"... It's a prerunner/chase truck with towing duties 3-4 days a week.
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A 9" behind a Cummins? I know the 9" gets a lot of respect and can be built to take a lot but I don't think it's up to dealing with the torque of a Cummins. Hell, I broke 3 stock ford 9" behind a stock 4 cyl turbo in a thunderbird Turbo Coupe.
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Welp, the project will be starting soon. Ill keep ya'll posted. The next question is to keep the stock D70 or build the crap out of a 9"... It's a prerunner/chase truck with towing duties 3-4 days a week.

Lets see...

D70 or 9" ?

Ahhhh fuck it, why would anyone need any more than a 9 ?

Ditch that boat anchor, you'll save weight too
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A 9" behind a Cummins? I know the 9" gets a lot of respect and can be built to take a lot but I don't think it's up to dealing with the torque of a Cummins. Hell, I broke 3 stock ford 9" behind a stock 4 cyl turbo in a thunderbird Turbo Coupe.
Haha, that's stock shafts though, right? My buddy running a chromo'd 35spl 9" behind his 760whp drag car and hasn't had a problem yet...

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Lets see...

D70 or 9" ?

Ahhhh fuck it, why would anyone need any more than a 9 ?

Ditch that boat anchor, you'll save weight too


There are Chrisman 9's running under 900hp/900lb/ft trophy trucks under INTENSE beating. Pretty sure it could stand to my 450/900 in non-race conditions.

I'm staying with the stock axles for now, gonna truss 'em, lock the rear for now, and go!
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
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yeah I wouldnt bother swapping out your rear axle unless you end up needing to, and I dont think I'd do with a 9 inch. They're good yes, but you'd want to build the hell out of it which is $$$$
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Have you seen the new bling 14 bolt from Portal Tek?


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