The "WTF what do I do?" retard thread for Offroading Dodge owners.

[moparmaniaccuda]

What?

Plenty of FSJ guys have done this swap successfully on v-belts.

[Elwenil]

Generally anything at 100A or above will require dual V-belts if the alternator is put near full load. I ran many of the old style Chrysler 100/120A alternators and under a heavy load they would smoke a single belt. This isn't much of a big deal since most Dodge trucks came with A/C and already have dual belts for the A/C and alternator loop. If yours does not, the brackets and pulleys are plentiful and usually cheap. My '88 with a stock '90 amp alternator runs dual belts and similar to the older 100/120A setup, even without A/C it runs the A/C mounting bracket with an idler mounted in it's place since the belt routing is different for non-A/C, light duty alternator engines and A/C engines with or without the heavy alternator.

[moparmaniaccuda]

Ah ok, well worst case is I get the idler pulley and run twin belts on the alternator then.

Do you have any experience with the GM one-wire alternators and what fits Elwenil?

I'm putting this in a Jeep MJ and building my own harness so wiring isn't a concern.

[SMITHTONU02]

Made my own thread on this but no responses so here goes:

Got an 04 Dak 4.7 and around 35-40mph i get a slight vibration from the tranny as it seems to be the TC locking and unlocking. No trouble any other time, offroad or on. I had one suggestion that it might be the TPS. Ideas?

[SMITHTONU02]

No guesses?

[mvanhelden]

Need some help here. We were cutting the fenders on a 96 1500 to clear 35's, didn't think there was wiring so embedded in that area and happened to cut some wires, we have the battery out for other reasons and don't want to hook it back up and have something expensive short out. I've had knowledge in other vechicles, and wires that run here usually go to auxillary options such as power seats, seatbelt warning lights and such. The wires run under the plastic door sill plate towards the rear of the cab. Don't want to spend time tearring stuff apart as its getting late and thought maybe you've had the same issues. Here's some pics of the fuck-up!

[ffdustyw]

Only the first cut hurts....KEEP CUTTING! It only gets better.

[mvanhelden]

Originally Posted by ffdustyw

Only the first cut hurts....KEEP CUTTING! It only gets better.

That's what I told em' not my truck, that's why I don't have time to chase those wires down, trying to help him out. You've gotta' know what those wires are for pay me back for helping you eirlier in this thread about a fan belt routing which was posted right below your chin on the core support

[ffdustyw]

Originally Posted by mvanhelden

That's what I told em' not my truck, that's why I don't have time to chase those wires down, trying to help him out. You've gotta' know what those wires are for pay me back for helping you eirlier in this thread about a fan belt routing which was posted right below your chin on the core support

I don't have a schematic. I know its part of the wiring loom to the tail lights and fuel pump.

[Triple]

They go to the LED's on the curb feelers.

First post ever and I choose the retard thread. Brilliant.

[mvanhelden]

Originally Posted by ffdustyw

I don't have a schematic. I know its part of the wiring loom to the tail lights and fuel pump.

Great its in a shitty spot and there's barley any slack. To work in there. I would of figured those wires would be down on the frame?

[HLL.RZR.DAK]

Ok Im a tard and can not find a adapter for a 42rh to np205. Anyone know of one?

I toasted my 231 this weekend in the sand

[Elwenil]

Shouldn't need any special adapter. The NV231 should use the same bolt pattern as the common NP208, NP241, NP205, NV241, etc. As long as it's a Dodge gas engine NP205 it should be 23 spline and bolt up. Now if you are looking for a driver side drop NP205, you are not going to find one that will bolt in, as Dodge never used one so you will have to modify a Ford NP205.

[HLL.RZR.DAK]

Theres my issue I need a driver side drop my buddy has a 205 out of a 78 f150. I would like to do a doubler like d.d machine / box for rocks and a 205 combo

[Mr. Mindless]

Originally Posted by HLL.RZR.DAK

Theres my issue I need a driver side drop my buddy has a 205 out of a 78 f150. I would like to do a doubler like d.d machine / box for rocks and a 205 combo

If you're wanting the doubler, you don't need a 205 to mate to your trans. You need the front half of the doubler to do that...

[HLL.RZR.DAK]

If I could put the 205 behind my tranny i would. But it looks like the onlyboption I havevis the doubler that I would prefer to do. I didnt find any info if I can put a 205 behind a box for rocks. All iv found is 300s.

Iv also found I need a overdrive unit off a 727 a 208/205 doubler. This is an option also but more money. I have a 208 with a lockout kit at hand.

[Elwenil]

Why would you need the overdrive unit off a 518? I don't think there is a way to just swap the OD units as they are a bit more integral than that. If you are building it for abuse, I would just pick up a 518/46RH anyway and dump the little 904 based transmission. If you don't need the overdrive anymore you can just run a old fashioned '80-'91 727 that will take whatever you can dish out.

Also, I don't think I would use a NP208 as a base for a doubler since they have one less pinion in the planetary than the NP241.

[Mr. Mindless]

pretty sure you can do a 231/205 box4rocks.

not sure what "swap" he's after but the tail housing/OD on the 44RE is a bolt-on that can be done in the truck... swapped my 4x4 tail/OD for a 4x2 unit for my divorced setup without doing anything interesting at all.

[HLL.RZR.DAK]

Good to know. I need OD since I run 2600 @ 65 mph. I think im incorect in saying its a 208. Its a 80s dodge awd tcase with a lockout kit?

[Mr. Mindless]

203? that's a worthless pile except as the front half of a doubler.

[HLL.RZR.DAK]

Thats it and good to know I didnt want anouther output on the pass side. Plus I have no room for it. I would rather have the reduction unit of the 231 and a 205 behind it I dont beat on my truck to hard and only run 37s. so im not worried about breaking stuff.

[Elwenil]

The NP203 is a fulltime 4WD transfer case was used in '75-'79 Dodge pickups and '74-'79 Ramchargers/Traildusters. It's easy to spot since it looks a lot like a NP205 with a large cast iron housing. The NP208 is a part time aluminum case that's, for the most part, externally identical to the NP241, which superseded it.

[HLL.RZR.DAK]

Ok its a 203 then

[another Lance]

Originally Posted by mvanhelden

That's what I told em' not my truck, that's why I don't have time to chase those wires down, trying to help him out. You've gotta' know what those wires are for pay me back for helping you eirlier in this thread about a fan belt routing which was posted right below your chin on the core support

those wires, if they go under the door sill inside the cab, they are for the 3rd brake light, cargo light and yer dome light. Possibly the little sensor that tells if your seatbelt is buckled. Also the rear speakers if you have some.

[barthorton]

Hey guys, thanks for setting up a retard thread. Right up my alley. I've got a 75 w300 440-tf727-np203-d60/70 with 4.88s that I'm getting ready to chop/fishplate & hopefully get a better crawl ratio (not that you care...just an fyi...). I also have a dana300 out of my parts 80 cj7 (that if it will mate up to the 727 I'd like to put 4:1 gears in it). I've looked and searched, and done my best but failed to interpret everyone's opinion. So, my question is will a dodge 23 spline tf727 bolt up to an amc 23 spline dana 300 without an adapter? Also, the dana 300 is behind a manual now, will I run into any issue putting it behind an automatic?

Thanks.