The "WTF what do I do?" retard thread for Offroading Dodge owners.

[silveranger93]

Originally Posted by Loftis61

Google.
http://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html

I actually have my own spreadsheet. I'm leaning towards 4.88s as that will have me around 2600rpm at 75. I guess I'm only looking for someone to say "yeah I ran that combo and it rocked" or "don't do it you will be constantly jumping in and out of OD while towing". I've run the numbers and I'm just looking for some personal experience. I'm an engineer and can run numbers around any problem, but we all know what works on paper can bring the suck in reality.

[4x4Engineer]

Originally Posted by silveranger93

I'm an engineer and can run numbers around any problem, but we all know what works on paper can bring the suck in reality.

I figured you for an Engineer as soon as you said you had a spreadsheet lol

For Engineers, the real world is often a special case

Gear ratios are linear - size the new gears to run the same RPM's as the stock tire and gear combo, or numerically higher.

[dodgestrike]

4.56 on 35" works great "yeah I ran that combo and it rocked" and thats with a 727 so no OD

If you are going 37s go with the 4.88.

[silveranger93]

Originally Posted by dodgestrike

4.56 on 35" works great "yeah I ran that combo and it rocked" and thats with a 727 so no OD

If you are going 37s go with the 4.88.

Thanks!

[silveranger93]

Figured I'd just post this in case anyone cares.

[silveranger93]

So, I found the apparently only dyno sheet on a stock 5.9 and attempted to recreate it in excel. So if the HP & TQ curves aren't perfect, I wouldn't be surprised. But here is the plot I did this morning, I plotted out where on the power curve highway speeds (55-80mph) fall for 3rd gear and OD with 3.55 and 4.88 gears and 35" tires. All assume TC lockup.

It seems pretty clear that 4.88's in OD would be nicely situated at the bottom of the power band for cruising and in 3rd she would be singing perfectly in the power band for heavy loads/steep hills.

I just thought someone might find this useful or interesting.

[Elwenil]

You are thinking about this way too much, lol.

[silveranger93]

Originally Posted by Elwenil

You are thinking about this way too much, lol.

Yes and no. I'm curious as to the science, but I'm also very bored at work.

[Elwenil]

Ah, understood. Carry on then.

[zzz_z]

Originally Posted by Warwhor

I wanna put 35's on it a friend said I should get a setup out of a jeep grand wagoneer

Lol

Dude this is the retard thread but you took it to a new level

[evilram]

How do I get 48" Michilins in my truck???? Dusty won't hold my hand on the way to daycare, I need some advice?

[ffdustyw]

Originally Posted by evilram

How do I get 48" Michilins in my truck???? Dusty won't hold my hand on the way to daycare, I need some advice?

Already told you. Rockwells.


Here's another thread to back up all the flaming I have been doing to you...
/forum/chevy/500602-44-michelin-xls-dana-60-a.html

You can keep Rockwells low if you want to figure it out and do some fabrication. I could have dropped mine about 4" fairly easily.

[clinta]

No way a 60/70/80 is going to hold up to a heavy tire like you want on the trail. It would do fine if you are going to mall crawl only. I think the only reason Dusty went so long with out a broken axle was his xl's didnt have a huge amount of traction on them and he doesnt crawl. When he went to TTC claws he traded weight for traction and has suffered the consequences. You can only be careful for so long and eventually a shaft will break.

this is the obstacle I broke the last shaft on. Doesnt look like much but when you are relying on one tire to do all the work, IT WONT WORK.

[ffdustyw]

Originally Posted by clinta

No way a 60/70/80 is going to hold up to a heavy tire like you want on the trail. It would do fine if you are going to mall crawl only. I think the only reason Dusty went so long with out a broken axle was his xl's didnt have a huge amount of traction on them and he doesnt crawl. When he went to TTC claws he traded weight for traction and has suffered the consequences. You can only be careful for so long and eventually a shaft will break.

this is the obstacle I broke the last shaft on. Doesnt look like much but when you are relying on one tire to do all the work, IT WONT WORK.

That is exactly why mine lasted. The XL's didn't have much bite.

[Elwenil]

XL's bite fine, they just need 12k lbs of truck or APC on them to make them bite, lol.

[ffdustyw]

Originally Posted by Elwenil

XL's bite fine, they just need 12k lbs of truck or APC on them to make them bite, lol.

Or tons of grooving to make them flex better and softer. My buddy went crazy on a set of 53's and they were amazing the difference.

[crispins]

I have a 76 Dodge W100 w/ 318

That is the one of the years that have the crappy axles, correct?

Would it be worth it to put the axles on my Sammy that runs a stock 1.3 with a doubler?

If the axles are good enough for my Sammy I can change the front hubs to a normal lockout style as right now they are full time 4 wheel drive?

[muleshemi]

I have a retarded question!

I was dragging logs back to our campfire on the beach two years ago 4th of July. (it was hot out) and midway back the dakota dies and will not restart.
it turns over fine but never fires. So I dump the log and get pulled back by a jeep after it sets for an hour or so I go to see if it will start and sure enough it fires right up. any idea what caused this?

details:
'92 dakota SAS
37 mt/r tires
5.2/auto/5.13gears
ohh pics of the fire and smaller logs ( the log I ditched was 30' long and tapered from approx 3' dia stump to 6" at the other end.

[ffdustyw]

Originally Posted by muleshemi

I have a retarded question!

I was dragging logs back to our campfire on the beach two years ago 4th of July. (it was hot out) and midway back the dakota dies and will not restart.
it turns over fine but never fires. So I dump the log and get pulled back by a jeep after it sets for an hour or so I go to see if it will start and sure enough it fires right up. any idea what caused this?

details:
'92 dakota SAS
37 mt/r tires
5.2/auto/5.13gears
ohh pics of the fire and smaller logs ( the log I ditched was 30' long and tapered from approx 3' dia stump to 6" at the other end.

You drank quality beer and the ladies were hot. The Dodge gods smiled on you.

[lumpdog]

All I read in the post......



It was hot out, we wanted a fire.......

And he had to dump a log that needed pulled out by a Jeep....


Yup, that sums up the Dodge forum alright.....GENIUS!!!

[Elwenil]

Lol. I think he was on drugs. Where the fuck is there a beach in Nebraska?

[lumpdog]

Originally Posted by Elwenil

Lol. I think he was on drugs. Where the fuck is there a beach in Nebraska?

You and you're damned logic........Go ahead and pat yourself on the back and remember to close the door on your way out......

[muleshemi]

its a beautiful white sand oasis's on the west side of the state called Lake McConaughy.

seriously what cause the no spark condition on the 318? pulling the log I was loading the hell out of the truck, I'm running lockers so I was pulling hard through the sand and the truck was getting hot.

pics of said beach.

[bigal1]

Originally Posted by silveranger93

I actually have my own spreadsheet. I'm leaning towards 4.88s as that will have me around 2600rpm at 75. I guess I'm only looking for someone to say "yeah I ran that combo and it rocked" or "don't do it you will be constantly jumping in and out of OD while towing". I've run the numbers and I'm just looking for some personal experience. I'm an engineer and can run numbers around any problem, but we all know what works on paper can bring the suck in reality.

I have a 97 1/2 ton 4x4,etended cab long bed.with the 360 and auto,I put 456 gears in it with 35s and its perfect.I had thought about 488s in the beginning but im glad I didnt go that route.In third gear its singing at 55mph,when I let it shift into od,it easily cruises at 65 and 70.I would strongly suggest 456s. AL

[Dodgeboy]

I run 4.56's 38s and 4340 shafts. Got 14 mpgs at 70 but going to rockwells. 360 never had a problem pulling logs jeeps or the occasional burned out car cause the guy with the badge asked nicely.