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Old 03-20-2011, 09:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1977 Dodge Class A motorhome Cummins 4x4

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1977 Dodge Xplorer 307 Xtrava, originally with 440/727, GVW: 12K#, Length: 25.5 feet.

Swapped in a 1993 Cummins 12V 5.9 Turbo-diesel, Intercooled with a Ford Powerstroke Intercooler, Chrysler 47RH/NP241 trans/tcase, 1979 Ford Dana 60 front dually axle, a 1979 GMC superwide Dana 70 rear dually axle, ARB lockers front and rear, 19.5 inch Rickson wheels, 33-inch tires, Ford F450 front brake rotrs/calipers, dual 3KW inverters, 4-battery bank, 160W solar panels, 4KW power generator, and more . . .

I call it DFG - Dodge-Ford-GM.
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Cool to see it finished. How does it run and handle with the new drivetrain? Might want to post this in the expedition forum also as it sort of leans that way as well.
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cool to see it finished. How does it run and handle with the new drivetrain? Might want to post this in the expedition forum also as it sort of leans that way as well.
Drives and handles great (with help from here and from the Cummins and DTR forums, and from lessons learned from my previous build)!!! I love the diesel and turbo sound. And most of all the fuel gauge takes forever to move to the left. I have 1000 miles on the new drivetrain already.

Thanks for the guidance that you provided in the early planning stages of this build.
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Have you taken it off road yet?
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Have you taken it off road yet?
Like this? No, not yet :-) MOAB (the easy trails) probably will be the maiden offroad voyage, if not Baja.
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That thing is too cool Do you have a build thread i'm missing?
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Well that pic should settle the hardcore argument before it ever gets started. That looks pretty hardcore to me considering the size fo the vehicle. The holes my ass would be chewing in the seat would certainly be hardcore if I was driving, lol.
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Well that pic should settle the hardcore argument before it ever gets started. That looks pretty hardcore to me considering the size fo the vehicle. The holes my ass would be chewing in the seat would certainly be hardcore if I was driving, lol.
Thank you, Elwenil. And those who think it's not hard core should bring their 4x4 rigs to our next Baja offroad trip. http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthre...ge=2#pid604392
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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That thing is Great! I was pretty impressed with your old one too. Did you sell off the old one?

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Old 03-21-2011, 10:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
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That thing is Great! I was pretty impressed with your old one too. Did you sell off the old one?

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Hi Chris,

The ol' RV is for sale sans the axles and a few other things from it that i used for this new build.

This is the for sale link, for $4000:
http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...713#post849713
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note my BHAF (big honking air filter) and my cold air intake (entire front of under the hood)
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that thing is pretty sweet!
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Any plans for an air cleaner housing? With it right behind the grille, driving in the rail is liable to soak the element.
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Any plans for an air cleaner housing? With it right behind the grille, driving in the rain is liable to soak the element.
Thanks for bringing this up. Do you think the aluminum "umbrella" is not sufficient to keep the water from reaching the filter? The filter is actually not directly behind the grille - it's under the protection of the hood, well above the grille. I concocted the "umbrella" to deflect any rain coming from the windshield. Do you think water will sneak in from under, if so I could put a flat shield level with the top of the grille. I didn't make a housing so as not to create any airflow restriction.
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It might be ok, but if you are driving behind another vehicle the mist could still saturate the element. Having messed around with a few sport compact with cold air intakes, I have sworn off open element air cleaners, lol.
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It might be ok, but if you are driving behind another vehicle the mist could still saturate the element. Having messed around with a few sport compact with cold air intakes, I have sworn off open element air cleaners, lol.

Thanks, i'll keep that in mind.

On 2nd thought, if mist goes in there, wouldn't that count for water injection? :-) LOL
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I look forward to a stability report. This build bleeds badass....
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I look forward to a stability report. This build bleeds badass....
As for stability on the highway, say slight winding rolling hill/mountain freeway (for example I-17 from Phoenix to Flagstaff and back) I have no complaints going 80 mph, and that was even before I installed the front stabilizer bar and the panhard bar and airbag over the rear axle. FYI, currently, the rear springs have 5.5-inch lift blocks (which I'm not proud of, but compensated it with a wider track rear axle) BUT because it turned out that the front differential has a lot more clearance than I had pre-calculated, I could lower the COG/frame about 2 inches, and replacing the front springs with softer ones and adjusting/redoing some of the suspension components. That should help stability further. However, I like the current stance, and it should even look better when the front springs settle/sag a little. It would have been ideal to have rear springs customized for the same amount of lift but without the lift block.

As for stability when rock-crawling through the Widowmaker in Moab or the Widowmaker in Baja, I'm not even sure if I want to bring it there :-) I seriously think it is capable of being an Expedition vehicle for cross-country mild-to-medium diffuculty off-raod roadtrip and even South American expedition.
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You could get a filter cover from the likes of Outerwears, I think they are supposed to stop water. This thing looks bad ass, I like it.
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You could get a filter cover from the likes of Outerwears, I think they are supposed to stop water. This thing looks bad ass, I like it.
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Thanks, I'll look into it.
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What year did the F450 brake calipers/rotors come from? Any problems mating to the Ford D60?
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Old 03-26-2011, 10:15 AM   #24 (permalink)
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wow that thing is bad ass! I love it, great job!
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You could get a filter cover from the likes of Outerwears, I think they are supposed to stop water. This thing looks bad ass, I like it.
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Amsoil has the filters and prefilter covers. Check thier website.
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