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Old 03-31-2011, 02:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dodge Bell housing patter help

I am trying to do a low budget 5.7 Hemi swap to a manual transmission and need some help from the dodge experts. I have a bell housing from a 3.7 V6 out of a dakota. Is this the same bolt pattern as the Hemi? What else has the same bolt pattern.

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Old 03-31-2011, 02:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I HIGHLY doubt a V6 bellhousing would mount on a hemi.....best bet would be to go to the Jeep section and see what guys are using for their TJ Hemi swaps since it's the most popular platform for them
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Old 03-31-2011, 03:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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the 3.7 has the same mounting face as the 318/360... which is the same as the 5.7, 6.1 and 6.4 mounting depth is a little different than the la/magnum

flex plate, P5153753 is what is needed to bolt up a 3.7/5.2/5.9 TQ to a hemi

you do not say what trans you are using the bell housing on??

I am guessing this is going together on a bad ass truggy

you do remember where you are ... right?

YOU ARE HERE!

might need to swap flex plates or use a spacer... lol more information or move to where it belongs

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Old 03-31-2011, 05:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks Spacity. I am trying to use a 6speed manual out of a dakota/liberty that originally had a 3.7.
I am guessing that the flex plate P5153753 is from a 360/318 and I will need a flywheel from the same motor?

P.S. I tried asking the Jeep people and they all use auto transmissions and don't know jack about dodge. Thanks Dodge guys.
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I would look into the specs of that 6spd though, you need to see what it's rated for before you try to put it behind a Hemi. Well I've been corrected on the bellhousing, but the idea of any manufacturer putting a V8 rated trans behind a V6 would be surprising.
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ouch, that light duty trans is not gonna like the hemi at all

I had hope you were using a nv4500 .... the nsg370 is rather weak... IIRC it was only suggested for use with 265 lbft at best! It was used in the benz cdi with a lower 1st gear that let it handle almost 400lbft... still kinda sketchy.

I have seen them behind LS v8 and not like it at all.... would not expect a long life behind a hemi.

I will give you my .02 on this...

with factory manifolds and with only a mild tune... you could get lucky. Would also tell you to keep your tires kinda small and dont lock up all 4 and do clutch drops!

what is the weight of the rig you are putting together?

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after I posted i looked a little... you had said you got a bell housing from a 3.7 dakota... then said you wanted to use the Liberty 6 speed... which is the NSG370... which has an integrated bell housing... SO what bell housing do you have? one for a nv1550 or even a nv3500... something out of a v6 dakota... I am not sure? but not a nsg370.

so the answer is NO... sorry
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm sure it is a nsg370. I bought it at a swap meet real cheap. I was told that is was mated to a 3.7 out of a dakota. All my research tells me that it never came on a dakota, so I am guessing that is out of a liberty. The bell housing pattern is different than a 4.0 Jeep. I just took a closer look, you are right, it is a one piece unit.

I am aware of its lack of strength. NV4500 would be great, but I am on a low budget, plus I want to keep the Jeep as light as possible. The NSG370 is about half the weight of the NV4500. When I was a teenager, we use to put V8s into out flat fender Willys and used the stock t90 transmission. I think that transmission was only rated for 80 ftlb.

Thanks again for your help.
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The Dakota used the Getrag 230, not the NSG370.

Why not find a NV3500? It's decently lightweight and was mated to 318 V8s in Dakotas and Rams. Should be pretty cheap these days also.
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