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[mj23polaris]

jus badass...... sweet build man

[ak_petey]

talk to kodiak dodge on the bumper. I bought it from him. while you are at it, read his thread!
/forum/dodge/702415-kodiak-dodge-rockwells-46-xmls-atlas-ii-3-8-1-a.html

[Wh1t3NuKle]

Originally Posted by ak_petey

talk to kodiak dodge on the bumper. I bought it from him. while you are at it, read his thread!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=702415

Dummy me. I just saw the posts in your thread where the bumper came from. My bad Dusty. I thought you were replicating his bumper... lol

for the record, its one design that my wife actually likes!!

[ak_petey]

just a little update:
I have been waiting for some caster alignment bolts from the dodge dealer, well- they came in. I will put them in when I receive some Thuren 3-4 inch lift soft springs. The current dick cepek springs are 5.5 inches of lift so...the front sits about 1 inch higher than the rear now. The soft ride springs should drop the front of the truck down to about 1"-2" lower than the rear where it sits currently. This should give me a near perfect driveline angle.

I decided to go with the caster bolts for the lower control arms (even though the control arms are adjustable) because I will still like to adjust it if needed without removing the lower arms.

After that it is back to school for another semester and the upcoming summer and I will get to finally wheel it. there is talk already about a spring break wheeling trip!


The dick cepek coils will probably be put away for a while for my k5 454 buggy I am going to work on this year. plans for that is to 4 link the front, and rear. but that is a ways away.

[ak_petey]

(3/5/2012)
I have been reading up on swapping in a ford 60 hp to replace my second gen. dodge 60. My driveline angle is not too bad at the pinion, but it sucks and the CV, as it is rubbing on itself.

I think the truck sits too high which is due to the coil buckets being mounted on top of the truss.
having the Ford D60 high pinion and mounting my coil buckets as low as possible will help with driveline angle, lower my COG about 2-3 inches, allow for highsteer later on and upgrade to 35 spline inner shafts.

I have come across articles/write ups about the ford 1978-79 kingpin being the desired axle for this swap. but, I have sourced a ford 1990 f350 for the hp kingpin axle. I am having second thoughts about pulling this (f350 1990 ) axle due to realizing the spring pad differences with the ford 78/79 kingpins spring pad width 31.5" to the 90 ford kingpin axle's spring pad width 36.5" .
I havent found anything with the 36.5" spring pad width d60 ford axle, except one thread, and someone said it cannot be done. so fire away, looking for some tech, or suggestions to get this to work. I am willing do cut and do fab work, but I dont want to do extra work if I can avoid it by searching for the right axle to swap/work on.


http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ont/index.html


Before I sell it (the 1990 f350) Im poking around for more information anyone might know about swapping in the 1990 axle into my 2001 2500 dodge application. I would like to keep the coils and 5 link suspension design.

I have also been considering trading the f350 dana 60 for an AAM ball joint axle at a salvage yard. The AAM axle seems to be a near bolt in deal. I wont be able to have high steer, and it comes with unit bearings too. But I have some spyntech hubs I can use to convert them with.
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Update: (3/8/2012)
I am turning up with zero progress in finding a cost effective solution for this swap.
kicking myself for getting the 1990 ford f350, ($1600) even though it has the kingpin d60 axle. I need to make a few more measurements before I give up and sell the f350 and look for a different solution. I have a few potential buyers interested. And yes, I am feeling like a dumbass already. flame away. I didnt realize the ford d60's were different enough to cause problems

some possible solutions
#1
sell f350. and buy an aam axle. they are high pinion, but stuck with crappy ball joints and unit bearings. I could reuse my spyntech hubs for manual hubs, but I wont be able to have high steer


#2
ballistic fab sells some brackets (below)
I would have to grind away at the leaf perch mount. in order for it to work. However, the ballistic fab brackets are only 6" in diameter. the guy i talked to said they would work for the dodge coils, but the dodge coils have an 8" outer diameter. .. or am i reading the diagram incorrectly?
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...-2_p_1444.html


#3
I need to take some further measurements, because I have been pushing the idea to use the kingpin dana 60, and just mount the truck with coilovers

#4
find a way to drop the t case/tranny mount. Someone I talked to suggested this, I didnt think it was a good idea, as it would mess with my rear driveline.

[Wh1t3NuKle]

Have you considered the following setup integrating the coil buckets into your '90 axle?

/forum/dodge/997935-96-dodge-2500-95-ford-hp60-swap.html


I've got a 97 Ford hp60 BJ axle and the above is an option in my back pocket, but also your #3 option.


Disclaimer: I've freely admit to having no experience (yet), but thought to share that I have similar thoughts and maybe you didn't see that thread.


Looking forward to what you're gonna resolve to as I've said previously, I really like what you done thus far.


Yes, the diagram for the coil plate on the bracket is reading 6" OD. The OD of the dodge coil bucket is 8" as I just measured mine.

[ak_petey]

you are right on the money where my plan/research has been on the last few days I have seen numerous threads like the one you just posted. One I found especially helpful was one from Lance's build on pavementsucks.com.
Thanks though for the link, I have seen it already though. I have been searching for a hp balljoint 60 all day today. And I have a few leads to getting my hands on one, and selling/trading the hp 60 kingpin.

[ak_petey]

Originally Posted by Wh1t3NuKle

Yes, the diagram for the coil plate on the bracket is reading 6" OD. The OD of the dodge coil bucket is 8" as I just measured mine.

not sure what ballistic was trying to get me to buy...

[Wh1t3NuKle]

Originally Posted by ak_petey

you are right on the money where my plan/research has been on the last few days I have seen numerous threads like the one you just posted. One I found especially helpful was one from Lance's build on pavementsucks.com.
Thanks though for the link, I have seen it already though. I have been searching for a hp balljoint 60 all day today. And I have a few leads to getting my hands on one, and selling/trading the hp 60 kingpin.

We've both read the same stuff then and that give me warm fuzzy.

Originally Posted by ak_petey

not sure what ballistic was trying to get me to buy...

Anything they can sell....


Question back to your current setup. Since you perched the buckets on top of the truss (effectively putting lift in w/o the coils/spacers/etc.), thus raising you up higher and now the driveshaft/pinion angle is a bit steep, what was the cost going to be for a reconfigured front driveshaft? I understand that you want to come down in height, so not saying stick with that setup, just a curiosity question and what other ramifications go with that.

Your option of the AAM axle seems viable only when taking your wheeling style into consideration from point of view of the unit bearings. You being way up yonder environment and other factors I would presume hold of those bearings marginal? Or did their design improve any....?


So what brand and length c/o's you getting?

[ak_petey]

Originally Posted by Wh1t3NuKle

Question back to your current setup. Since you perched the buckets on top of the truss (effectively putting lift in w/o the coils/spacers/etc.), thus raising you up higher and now the driveshaft/pinion angle is a bit steep, what was the cost going to be for a reconfigured front driveshaft? I understand that you want to come down in height, so not saying stick with that setup, just a curiosity question and what other ramifications go with that.

Your option of the AAM axle seems viable only when taking your wheeling style into consideration from point of view of the unit bearings. You being way up yonder environment and other factors I would presume hold of those bearings marginal? Or did their design improve any....?


So what brand and length c/o's you getting?

please excuse my newb-ness. not sure what c/o is.
well.. with the AAM axle .... I am not worried about the Unit bearings. I have spyntech hubs I would be throw on them. They are currently on the d60 under the truck I am building here.
If I swap in a dana 60 axle, I will be able to use the spyntech hubs on my Daily driver (03 cummins) which will be a nice addition for summer since I dont use 4wd at all. This is an anti-unit-bearing move here.. you found be out damnit!!

the benefit in swapping in a D60 ball joint ford axle will be:
high pinion
manual hubs
stronger axle shafts
might be able to lower the new coil mounts lower than my "trussed" lift.

I found a guy up here willing to trade the f350 parts truck I got for a deal. I will be getting"
5.13 ring and pinion, a d60 spool, 2 hydro ram cylinders and of course, a d60 BJ front axle with 4:10 gears I will use until I get around to swapping the 5.13 gears and ordering up a 14bolt ring and pinion 5.13 gear setup in the future.
I would personally like to stay away from having to purchase a high angle front driveshaft if possible.

[ak_petey]

shit. just got the c/o (coilovers) damnit its been a long week.
i was going to see about 16" travel coilovers. 350 and 450 springs. but I am avoiding that for now.

[ak_petey]

so lots has happened
bad news is my parents house burned down and I lost a lot of tools. I spent a few days digging through the heap and recovered a good amount of hand tools. everything plastic melted. burned, or was rendered useless. I have to start over somewhere.

But the good news is I got some progress done on the dodge. I did some adjusting/aligning and was able to get my death wobble under control. I installed a M12000 warn winch, bought some new recovery gear, welded up a new rear bumper, learned how to use a flux core wire welder, put on a new front diff cover (RUFF STUFF) .. and took it out for a spin last night. I had some fun out at REPP road, Dusty lives in the area but I think he was gone wheeling elsewhere more fun. I also had to work the next day So my buddy wayne wheeled with me to shake down my dodge. he drove his daughters ford he and her have built up. He is a Ford guy at heart, but he has a soft spot for Dodges.

anyway pictures to come soon enough

[ak_petey]

first off, I was pulling on a truck during winter time and at about 30' F outside.
It was pretty slippery but I had a buyer for this 1 ton Ford I was getting rid of. I had to pull the truck uphill and the mix of deep wet snow and uphill; it was a battle my rear bumper lost.
my welds held up though!

[ak_petey]

01 Dodge - YouTube

just proof it does run ! didnt get much footage on the trail. I was having too much fun

[ak_petey]

[ak_petey]

dodge go LEFT - YouTube

[ak_petey]

I hit the trail with my buddy Wayne, in his ford. I had lots of fun testing out my dodge for an evening, it was great! I took the opportunity to push through some gnarly mud out here in north pole. The trail was really narrow but my tires seemed to cut the trail wide enough, the ground was super soft. Wayne bent his drag link pretty bad so we didnt stay on the trail too long. after we got off the trail we hit some fun-puddles that were pretty deep, and gooey.

I went over a steep incline that the orange ford went over and bottomed out on my lower link. not much carnage for me, just scratches on the paint and that slightly bent lower link. I had some death wobble on the drive out, but after stopping to look at what was going on, I couldnt find the cause. Got in and drove it again... no death wobble. I have a ghost.

[ak_petey]

and my girlfriend needs to learn how to hold an iphone steady.
sorry about that guys. I didnt take too many pics because I was busy having fun

[ak_petey]

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My Ram has apparently gone viral

[ak_petey]

2" wheel spacers
fender trimming
and i tightened up a bolt on my gear box. The Don Thuren track bar rel-locator bracket loosened up. i may have to weld it (bracket) to the frame as it was moving when i cycled the tires back and forth. just a couple inches to hold it in place. .. so that it is accessible to an angle grinder in case i need to remove it later. .. and on another note my steering pump feels like it is lagging. might have to replace it soon. PSC motorsports has a steering pump i have in mind. I will be ordering up a reservoir and doing a hydro assist when the pump poops out or as soon as money comes available.

oh and there is terrible shot of the new rear bumper there below:





edit: just wanted to thank cj8scrambld for the spacers, he cut me a great deal on them. thanks buddy!

[ak_petey]

did a short mud trail run with a buddy today. broke a front u joint. got muddy. and pics I have to say, I am super impressed with the iroks. mud everywhere. tires cleaned like a
in 4 low, 4.10 gears locked front and rear. plenty of wheel spin to clean out.








It was soft until about 20-24 inches down.

[ak_petey]

oh, and my death wobble.. bias tire flat spots. they go away after a mile or two.

[ak_petey]

more mud

the tire disappearing trick, this is where the u joint broke. I was trying to crawl up it but could not. I got a little head start to try and bump it up and gain some traction, but no bueno. too much tire speed and slippery mud wall with wet tree roots killed the u joint.

[ak_petey]

turns out I broke a shaft. (driver side) youngs gear and driveline had a used shaft they sold me for 75 with a decent u joint. still feels stiff. Ill take it.
yeah.. Im polishing the turd. not quite ready to jump on my ford 60 build yet. It is a cheap fix for now, I Just need some more time and money, and I want to wheel it some more. the swap will happen eventually. ill just have to wheel smarter for now :P

[ak_petey]

i think I bent the ears on the stub shaft.

I tried to hit it with a hammer to get the ear to catch it but it did not work.
I bought the spyntech hub conversion kit a little over 2 years ago. while wheeling and broke my spicer u joint, and stock inner axle shaft (driver side). I pulled everything apart, cleaned it up, inspected it. While installing the new u joint, I found that it was spinning freely (by hand) in one of the ears on the spyntec 35 spline stub shaft that originally came with the kit. the stub shaft is perfect besides the ears not holding the cap in place.

warranty on that stub shaft? a friend mentioned that Yukon will warranty their stub shafts for life, and may have to go that direction if I cannot get a warranty on the spyntec stub
IMG 3330 - YouTube