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Surprise Canyon Articles (CA)
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...ck=1&cset=true
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Yep.
This one is much better... http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_4719696 Quote:
![]() There was also one in the Inyo Register, and several online articles. Some copies of the green press releases and others full articles. k.
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i love the way the LA times seems to portray the enviro side as the good guys and the 4xs as the devil who will destroy all living things in the canyon. fauckers.
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These enviros are nuts as we all know - but the problem is they are willing to go to great lengths to see changes made - I was once told - " you have to get inside the system if you really want changes in your favor " - implying getting 4+ year degree, working for gov...this is a common thing among them.
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Heres another...
From... http://www.hidesertstar.com/articles...news/news3.txt Quote:
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel...pagetravel-hed
The article slants toward minority peoples not coming to parks, but this is interesting: Quote:
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This gives a little more weight to the feeling that Blue Ribbon really isn't there for us.......wonder who thier really there for?
Brian Hawthorne of the Idaho-based Blue Ribbon Coalition, which represents off-road enthusiasts, said the disputes are real and must be resolved to clarify where vehicles are permitted. Hawthorne said he'd prefer to see the conflicts settled outside court: A New Mexico congressman last month proposed legislation that would allow states or counties to gain title by producing any official map or survey made before 1976. But Hawthorne conceded that passage was unlikely. "We are looking at a monumental battle over each and every one of these roads," said Hawthorne, whose group has not taken a stance on Surprise Canyon.
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ive never been good @ politics even @ a young age in school. and so for some reason i still dont understand the motive behind all the political B.S. that seems to go around.
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Here's the Earthjustice Press Release from yesterday:
Death Valley National Park Threatened by Damaging Off-Road Vehicle Use Off-road enthusiasts seek to open protected parkland November 30, 2006 Washington, DC -- A broad coalition of conservation groups represented by Earthjustice is fighting to prevent extreme off-road use of a fragile stream in Death Valley National Park. The groups filed intervention papers November 9 in a federal court case that would open Surprise Canyon to off-road vehicles -- an action that would damage the canyon's unique character, including waterfalls, towering cottonwoods and lush willows. The original suit was filed last month by off-road interests who claim that the canyon's sheer walls and creek bed are a "constructed highway'' to which off-roaders have a right-of-way under a repealed, Civil War-era law known as R.S. 2477. "This is a law that was passed a year after Lincoln was assassinated and repealed 30 years ago, and its dead hand is still haunting the protection of our national parks," said Ted Zukoski, a Denver staff attorney with Earthjustice. "What they are attempting to do is to undermine protection of this miracle -- a river running through the desert." Although Utah "has really been the epicenter of this debate," Zukoski added, " the California desert is becoming another area where those seeking to undermine protection of wildlife habitat and wildlands are using this ancient law." Over the last 30 years, some Western states, counties and off-road vehicle groups have alleged that hiking trails, wash bottoms, streambeds and little-used two-tracks meet the standard for a "constructed highway" under the law. Congress and federal land managers have recognized Surprise Canyon's incredible values for decades. In the 1980's the Bureau of Land Management designated the lower portion of the canyon as an "Area of Critical Environmental Concern." In 1994, Congress added the upper portion of the canyon to Death Valley National Park and designated the area surrounding the canyon as wilderness. In a compromise, Congress left a narrow strip of land through the canyon out of wilderness in order to permit vehicle access to century-old mining claims at the top of the canyon although a major flood had washed out the old dirt road in 1984. No mining has taken place in Surprise Canyon since then. In the 1990s, highly modified 4-wheel drive vehicles began to scale the canyon. To do this, the drivers cut down plants and trees, filled in portions of the stream bed with rocks and used winches to pull vehicles up near-vertical waterfalls. A number of vehicles overturned when trying to negotiate the waterfalls and other steep terrain, dumping oil and other pollutants into the stream. "The BLM should have never allowed this kind of extreme off-road vehicle use in Surprise Canyon to occur," said Geary Hund of The Wilderness Society. "It pollutes the stream, damages habitat, scares off wildlife and degrades the wilderness." In 2000, conservation groups sued the Bureau of Land Management for failing to evaluate the impact of off-road "Death Valley is a national park-not a playground for off-road vehicles," said Howard Gross, program manager for the National Parks Conservation Association. "The public shouldn't be forced to see Surprise Canyon's tremendous natural values destroyed by a handful of off-road vehicle users, especially when there are so many off-roading opportunities available elsewhere in the Mojave desert." In 2000, conservation groups sued the Bureau of Land Management for failing to evaluate the impact of off-road vehicle use and other management policies on endangered wildlife. As a result of a 2001 settlement, the BLM closed the route through Surprise Canyon, pending such analysis. The National Park Service closed the upper portion of the Canyon to vehicles in 2002. Since then, Surprise Canyon has experienced a remarkable recovery. Cottonwoods and willows trees are flourishing and rare species such as desert bighorn sheep are thriving. Endangered birds such as the Inyo California towhee have returned to the canyon after decades of absence. "Preserving this rare desert stream and the web of life it supports is critical to the recovery of the Inyo California Towhee and the conservation of other imperiled species such as the Panamint Alligator Lizard," said Chris Kassar, a wildlife biologist with the Center for Biological Diversity. "Allowing off-roaders back into Surprise Canyon will set back recovery by decades by increasing soil erosion and polluting the waters of the creek." Because Surprise Canyon is narrow and constrained though much of its length, it is not possible to resume off-road vehicle use without causing substantial adverse impacts to the creek, water resources and other natural resources and to the area's wilderness character. "Surprise Canyon is on a path to natural restoration. It was torn up and damaged. Now, it's thriving with plants and wildlife," said Tom Budlong of the Sierra Club. "When you visit the canyon you feel like you are again in national park and wilderness, not at an extreme off-roading site. We need to keep it that way." Conservation groups joining in the motion are the National Parks Conservation Association, Center for Biological Diversity, Sierra Club, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, California Wilderness Coalition and The Wilderness Society. Contact: Ted Zukowski, Earthjustice, (303) 623-9466 http://www.earthjustice.org/news/pre...e.html?print=t
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i think as the # of baby boomers and elderly keep growing so will the amount of self proclaimed "enviromentalists" and its supporters, along with the continueing B.S. scare of global warming even though its proven bunk, sheeple are a dime a dozen and the enviro clubs have the tatics to get the money.
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From...
http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_4763866 From just this morning... kris. Quote:
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From...
http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/203504/4/ Quote:
Off-roaders fight ecos for Calif. canyon http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...ng_Rights.html And about 70 other outlets worldwide... kris.
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Do a Google News search. Count is over 100 now.
k.
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Herd a spot on Rush L. Radio show about it this morning
He was giving a thumb's up to the off roading people fightint the ECO freeks
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I wouldn't doubt if the Eco freeks planted the fwaking the willow trees out there just to make the trail overgrown. one or 2 branches from a willow can make quite a jungle in no time flat. Are willows a native tree out there.
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YES. Along with Ocotillo and Tamarisk brush. You won't see 'em in the flats, but they pretty much fill the canyons.
For those that haven't been in the area, there's about a dozen canyons in a row there, each pretty much similar from ecology perspective. As well, just over the ridge is Saline Valley, which is a lot better for hikers. As yet I've never seen a hiker in that area, although I usually go in April on the way to my annual trip to Vegas for a tradeshow.
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Heres what Mr. Limbaugh has to say about it...
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Just a side note from me... This lawsuit is not about "off-roaders". This lawsuit is about a 132 year old COUNTY ROAD and the valid existing rights of the public and private property owners to access the land in and around Panamint City on that COUNTY ROAD. kris.
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Saline Valley, if anything is across the valley and over a ridge and north. Hikers are prevalent all over the Panamint Range. I don't doubt that you don't see them as you DRIVE from whereever to Las Vegas but they are everywhere. I talk with them at many trailheads. As for Saline Valley being better than the Panamint Range for hikers, I really don't understand what you might be trying to say here. Other than those "few" things, a great post, thanks for contributing. I'm really not trying to start a debate, this is not the thread for it. I just don't want to let mis-information go either. |
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Thanks everyone for posting up the info, I had the chance to go up Panamint Valley about a year before it was closed and I foolishly turned it down.
.Good luck to all in getting this open again. Edit: I know it is an older post, but wanted to bring it back up. Double edit: It seems to be my night for pulling up old posts, but this one is important. Does anyone have any updates on this.
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