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Zeus of the Sluice
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Bass in a buggy?
There's a lot of stereo threads in here but I didnt see any on this subject. Can you produce quality(not
bass) in a buggy. I dont need it to hit like the tens in my suburban but a little more sound quality would be cool. So no doors,window, mostly metal panels and not a lot of space. It will have a back seat that they could probably mount behind? thanks Ryan
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Size is definitely one factor. But I think the big problem is the open vehicle. I've taken my large sealed box out of my suburban and set it on the ground and it makes very little bass without the surrounding. Vehicle to bounce it off.
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Like mentioned above, the trick for bass is reflection. You need to build the box in a way that the waves reflect off something before they reach you.
Back in my custom stereo days I built a console mounted sub box for a friend's old blazer, since he complained there was no bass with the top off. It had 2 JL eights firing into each other, with the center chamber ported toward the 2 front seats and the rear chamber sealed. It also had a 1500 watt amp pushing each sub. It was very loud even with the top off. |
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Zeus of the Sluice
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So most likely created some type of band pass enclosure/setup will yield the best results. Again not looking for crazy brown note kind of bass just full sound.
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hard to fit a band pass style box in a buggy.
I'd say your best bet would be a small downward firing sub pointing into a floor panel. Just make sure that floor panel won't rattle around on everything it's mounted to.
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Zeus of the Sluice
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Would the back seat suffice?
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The box is the key to bass. Ive ran a obcon bandpass box with two 8"s and it produced excellent bass but takes up some room. Now I have two boxes sealed 8"x8"x20" with 6x9"s and it sounds great. you can feel the bass without top and doors. Of coarse I have room for them. The size of the box makes a huge difference. Have you checked out wake board speakers?
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I have a kicker l7 12' in the family wakeboard boat, It's in a sealed box and my amp barely meets the min. power it wants. It will move the water around the boat and sounds nasty. Very small box and for a boat/jeep application that loud of a sub seems to help
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But where in the boat is it located? My friend has to twelves under the bow(sealed box that absolutely pound. Take the out and put them on the back seat they sound like wet farts.
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I ran one of these, it worked good but has a thermo sensor in it to prevent overheating. The only room i had was in front of the rad, it got it warm enough to trip the switch and shut down the stereo.
http://compare.ebay.com/like/2906971..._lwgsi=y&cbt=y |
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Sounds good. I think I will try to stuff a couple 8" subs in there with some components systems or if all else fails and there is no space just run some speaker pods
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What about something like this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pyle-Boat-St...2123%26ps%3D54
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Google tactile transducer
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down firing is the way to go, you can get about a 3db gain if I remember correclty from down firing vs front or rear firing.
I run two shallow mount 12's behind my seats with a reputable 1000w amp pushing them. Those combied with two 6x9's and two 6.5's offere plenty of sound for me and my neighbors.
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My sub is on an extension cord, so I can move it around. I can pull the sub and put it outside on the ground. Believe me you can hear it just fine, might even sound better. So having a trunk or doors or windows is not needed. What is needed is a sub encloser designed for your subwoofer. I'm running an Polk MM 8" sub and it requires a 0.35 cubit foot encloser. Which is not too big. You can find spec's here
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107MM84...40.html?tp=111 I still think the real issue is going to be space. Making a sub box and putting it under the seat is fine, but you could just strap it to the roll cage in the back and you will hear it just fine. Unless your running a straight pipe exhaust. I think a good spot would be under the dash pointing down. Less chance of getting f'up by water, mud, rocks. which brings you full circle space needed.
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I am looking for the same thing for my YJ. Already dont have a whole lot of room, but im thinking something like this http://www.amazon.com/Bazooka-BTA610...pr_product_top Does anybody have any experience with these?
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Still waiting for someone with an open vehicle/buggy to chime in. Making bass with a roof and doors is easy regaurdless of space. An 8" sub with good power on the right enclosure will pound. Put that same setup in a buggy and not so much. thinking some high quality wake board speakers are about as good as its going to get.
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So.... since I don't think it has been covered, what kind of engine does your buggy have? Cam'ed out LS series like Campbell? Oldass 22R/E? Kinda makes a difference.
![]() The boss man has one of these http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-11SKM10.../dp/B005FHRYZ2 and a set of Bazooka wakeboard "pods" on his Toyota based buggy. It is very loud and the sub being right behind the seats hits pretty good too. Here is a picture of the buggy for reference, you can kinda see the 'pods' in the back:
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