Best Expedition type Tires

[Kyle_T]

What are the opinions about a good all around expedition ready tire that can handle any situation in north america or beyond.

[The Adam Blaster]

I'd say whatever is readily available/replaceble in the region you are travelling.
Don't go with odd-ball sizes, and stick with major manufacturers, unless you want to take 4 extra spares with you.

[miniyota]

i'd say you want a radial. something tough enough off road, traction, and you can still use on the pavement when you have drive on it.

i like BFG tires. i've only popped one sidewall. you can get them anywhere. stick with 31,33, or 35 inch tall tires. every off-road shop shoud carry that size standard. my opinion of course.

[OlympicYJ]

Cooper STT. They seem to be popular world over. I hear the Aussies love em. I can attest to the fact that they are a tough tire. My Jeep was towed up last fall and will be driven back down in 12 days.

The roads in Alaska and the road down aren't exactly the smoothest in the world. A little chunking but not bad considering they hit chuck holes at 60 and 70 miles an hour. They seem to work well in snow and the mud traction isn't bad. The ice performance is outstanding for a mud terrain. Drove around all winter on them.

[The Adam Blaster]

I like the tread pattern in the Cooper STT, i'm curious if they are sold in central america, europe and asia also???

[OlympicYJ]

They are a nice tire. I went where my buddy with 38 boggers on a chevy 2500 did. Only I didn't have nearly the size of tire nor power to spin them. I was pleased with their percormance. We were in mud and they worked good.


They are. Here is a link to the list of Dealers outside of N. America.

http://www.coopertires.com/html/deal...outsidena.aspx

Here are some pics of my tires. Different places and times.

[miniyota]

i'm not a fan of copper tires at all. as far as i'm concerned they are garbage. those SST's do not last. we had a set on a 3/4 ton dodge in the oil field (pumper truck) that wore out in 6 months. they were shreded. the truck was driven on a mix of gravel and paved roads. they only lasted about 16K miles.

i've had the BFG muds twice now. they are great. they last a very long time. i got 35K miles out of my last pair, i gave them away and they still had 1/4 of the tread left.

[OlympicYJ]

A 3/4 ton with heavy pumping equipment will wear those BFGs out too. Mud terrain tires aren't a tire that will last 30,000 miles under a heavy truck. A jeep yes. Even a daily driven 2500 unloaded driven on gravel roads will still last longer. Tire wear and performance all has to do with the weight of the vehicle, terrrain, and driver style. Driver style factoring in a bunch. Oilfield and construction workers don't baby equipment. Except for Associated Pipline who are still using the same trucks they had back when they built the Trans Alaska Pipeline. lol

People in Alaska seem to like the Coopers too. STT's and other models. But allot of people switch tires when winter comes.

In WA the Toyo M/T is a very popular tire also. But that has to do with LesSchwab pusing those tires and not carrying Coopers. I know, a friend of mine works at one.

[miniyota]

pumper trucks here.

these guys drive around and check the pumps, they don't carry any more then hand tools. one tool box is about it.

[Filthy McChevy]

I've had several BFG ATs blow sidewalls, anymore I just run whatever tire I get a smoking deal on. Its really luck as much as anything. One time I got a puncture that almost ruined a brand new Goodyear Wrangler from a 5/16 x 2 inch lag bolt on Engineer pass miles from any town. I get more flats when I carry 2 spares too, so I just carry one out of superstition based on past results.

[OlympicYJ]

Originally Posted by Filthy McChevy

I've had several BFG ATs blow sidewalls, anymore I just run whatever tire I get a smoking deal on. Its really luck as much as anything. One time I got a puncture that almost ruined a brand new Goodyear Wrangler from a 5/16 x 2 inch lag bolt on Engineer pass miles from any town. I get more flats when I carry 2 spares too, so I just carry one out of superstition based on past results.

Some people just have bad luck with tires. I know a guy that had gun BFG all terrains and would attract flats. He got a set of the Toyo M/Ts and thought he might have better luck. First time he went up in the snow he sliced one open on a piece of plastic. Some people just have bad tire Karma.

[miniyota]

i don't know, i guess run a tire that best suits your needs.

i bought BFG Mud KM's for my commander because they were on sale at tirerack for $93 a piece for 32" tall tires. with shipping it came out to a little over $600 for 5 tires.

around here buying the same thing would have cost me over $1000

[Disco12]

I'm going to say BFG KM muds.

I have them on my truck and they perform very good.

once these wear out

I'm going for the KM2's

[AxlesUp]

simex centipede
cooper stt
bfg mt

[Doron_B]

I run the third set of 31" MTR on my 97' Hilux (I can't put anything bigger-very problematic laws around here  )
The first set wore out un-even probably because I didn’t do much rotation but still they got as far as 90K km.

The second set with rotation every 20K km held up to 115K km before they began to show significant wear-actually I was looking for any sign of wear as an excuse to fresh up the tire's..

About 30%~ of the km was off road, low~ tire pressure when off road (18 front, 24 rear et all terrain types) on 5000lbs truck.

No flats on both sets and that’s whay the third set is also MTR.

[MatLax]

I'm considering buying a set of those:


Nokian Vatiiva M/T... I know they can be found easily in Canada, in Alaska it seems to be the same (sine Nokian make some of the best winter tires), but I'm wondering about the rest of the US?

[PROJECTJUNKIE]

I don't think it would be that important to buy tires that are available world wide, unless you are hoping for some sort of warranty service. To me it would make more sense to buy 5 or 6 of the best tires available in a size that is available where you are headed. If you have tire problems, you come home with an oddball tire, instead of heading out with so so tires and coming home on who knows what.

I run BFG ATs on nearly everything, and have had a few sets of MTs, I love them dearly, great ride, traction, wear, sidewall strength. The ATs get tore up in the rocks if you spin them. I have picked up nails and they have always held air untill I got it to the tire shop. I had one freak flat, a sidewall punctured in a brand new 35" MT from a thorn 3/16" dia on a well traveled 2track in the desert. The kind of place you go without packing a plug kit or making sure that some tweaker didn't steal your 4way Being the experienced offroader asking your buddy in a 2wd truck to get another lug wrench is a learning experience.

I took a set of BFG ATs off of my DD and put on a set of MTRs. They ride like tracks, and can hardly keep it on the road. In their defense, they are load range Ds and my truck is too light for a good ride. The few times I've had them offroad they have done great, and wear really good.

[Slunnie]

Originally Posted by OlympicYJ

Cooper STT. They seem to be popular world over. I hear the Aussies love em. I can attest to the fact that they are a tough tire. My Jeep was towed up last fall and will be driven back down in 12 days.

Hmmm, I dunno. Cooper has some excellent marketing down here, and they make sure that they're in your face whenever you're thinking tyres, and likewise they seem to supply at least 1 magazine with tyres. Cooper tyres (tires???) seem to polarise people though. Some love them, but there are also a lot of people that hate them, with a lot of damage happening to Coopers reputation with the ST and how fragile the tyre is.

I tend to like the Goodyear MTR as a touring tyre.

Then again, Australian touring and US expedition may be slightly different.

[OlympicYJ]

Originally Posted by Slunnie

Hmmm, I dunno. Cooper has some excellent marketing down here, and they make sure that they're in your face whenever you're thinking tyres, and likewise they seem to supply at least 1 magazine with tyres. Cooper tyres (tires???) seem to polarise people though. Some love them, but there are also a lot of people that hate them, with a lot of damage happening to Coopers reputation with the ST and how fragile the tyre is.

I tend to like the Goodyear MTR as a touring tyre.

Then again, Australian touring and US expedition may be slightly different.

Just about any tire manufacturer will do that. There are a few people running coopers here in the US. Mostly on your daily driven type rig. I can attest to them working in the snow and ice though. And Cooper pushed them a little bit here but not much. A couple of write ups and that was about it.

Yeah it's tire here in the US.

[Rhinoracer]

How about the BFG Projects? They're almost undestructible.

[Andy351]

swampers.

[rockcrawln]

Originally Posted by Rhinoracer

How about the BFG Projects? They're almost undestructible.

Pics? Never heard of a BFG project?

[Rhinoracer]

Originally Posted by rockcrawln

Pics? Never heard of a BFG project?

They are used by 800+HP TT's . Here's a link to some pics of them.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...hreadid=174851

They are similar to BFG Baja TA tires but racing construction.

[spork2367]

this is the tire to use

may not be the most available, but has the look of a true expedition tire. i suppose if someone were looking for the ideal expedition tire it would be a Q78 about a 35 x 10.5-11 widely available in off road tires in most countries.

[jasonmt]

9.00x16 Michelin XZL