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zukidude1.3 · 07-06-2008, 07:59 PM

Just wondering? I read in a magazine about they Aussie challenge. One of the things that caught my eye was that they were using some sort of pump or bilge pump to remove water from the interior of the vehicle. Blows me away! Never woulda thought of it myself. Anyone out there doing this and what kinda pump are you using? Obviously 12v but what brand and where do I get one?

The Adam Blaster · 07-06-2008, 09:03 PM

Interesting idea, but would removeable rubber plugs in the floor be a bit easier and quicker?

zukidude1.3 · 07-06-2008, 09:29 PM

Very true, after your out of the water. But during your fording, a pump would be nice to keep the water level down.

Elwenil · 07-06-2008, 10:13 PM

I remember reading about them using those about 10 years ago. I found the the hydraulic winches they used with a PTO pump and an electric back up pump a bit more interesting.

PAToyota · 07-07-2008, 06:22 AM

All depends on how much of a problem you have with water coming in as to whether it was worth it to you.

Head down to the local marine shop and just buy a 12V bilge pump. Chances are that they have more experience with such things than your average 4Wheeler.

WILLD420 · 07-10-2008, 07:52 PM

A good bilge pump will flow about 1000 gal/hour. About as much as a 5/8 water hose at your house. If you leak faster than that, you need to plan accordingly. A pto driven water pump can flow 1000 gal/15 +/- min. There are bigger ones, but you really don't want to go there for this application.

I'd think you would be better off waterproofing as much as possible then go from there.

braxton357 · 07-10-2008, 09:20 PM

No way any 12v bilge pump is going to do a damn thing if you've got water pouring in. As was said, drain plugs are a much better idea. That, or not going in water that's at cab level.
Those brits and aussies do some weird shit though. It seems like most of the comps involve getting stuck and racing with winches...?

zukidude1.3 · 07-10-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by braxton357

No way any 12v bilge pump is going to do a damn thing if you've got water pouring in. As was said, drain plugs are a much better idea. That, or not going in water that's at cab level.
Those brits and aussies do some weird shit though. It seems like most of the comps involve getting stuck and racing with winches...?

I guess my idea of wheeling wouldn't be driving down the trail and finding a deep creek, and saying, "well, that looks cab deep, guess we'll turn back." I have the rubber plugs in the floor of my sambo, i have fully explored that concept, just thought the bilge pump thing was pretty interesting.

Elwenil · 07-10-2008, 10:30 PM

I've also thought that the bilge pump idea was a bit over the top. Generally you aren't going to be in deep water for long and guaranteed it will drain out quicker though the holes in the floor than a pump will get it out. I might be able to see it if you plan on driving around in flood water or something for long periods but then you better have a full military style fording kit with a pressurized drivetrain.

chevy79 · 07-12-2008, 06:14 PM

why not just completely seal the cab, and you wont have to worry about the water, or get a boat

interesting idea thou

miniyota · 07-12-2008, 09:07 PM

ever seen this top gear episode?

http://www.livevideo.com/video/dudew...african-a.aspx

they used a rifle to shoot a hole in the floorboard to empty the water.

07-06-2008, 07:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
zukidude1.3 I like nacho's Join Date: May 2008 Member # 113687 Location: Parkdale, Oregon Posts: 491	Water Removal Just wondering? I read in a magazine about they Aussie challenge. One of the things that caught my eye was that they were using some sort of pump or bilge pump to remove water from the interior of the vehicle. Blows me away! Never woulda thought of it myself. Anyone out there doing this and what kinda pump are you using? Obviously 12v but what brand and where do I get one? __________________ '87 Samurai, BUILT 1.3 with harley carb, Spring over, Lock Rights, 6.5's, OBA, 8k Smitty, on 33's Representing the underdogs '93 4runner (AKA: The Clean One Owner) Supercharged 3.4 Swap done, E-Locker in the rear, and a straight axle in the future.

07-06-2008, 09:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
The Adam Blaster Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1479 Location: Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta Posts: 4,271	Interesting idea, but would removeable rubber plugs in the floor be a bit easier and quicker? __________________ Just call me Humpty Dumpty.

07-06-2008, 09:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
zukidude1.3 I like nacho's Join Date: May 2008 Member # 113687 Location: Parkdale, Oregon Posts: 491	Very true, after your out of the water. But during your fording, a pump would be nice to keep the water level down. __________________ '87 Samurai, BUILT 1.3 with harley carb, Spring over, Lock Rights, 6.5's, OBA, 8k Smitty, on 33's Representing the underdogs '93 4runner (AKA: The Clean One Owner) Supercharged 3.4 Swap done, E-Locker in the rear, and a straight axle in the future.

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Elwenil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41063 Location: Covington, VA Posts: 5,794	I remember reading about them using those about 10 years ago. I found the the hydraulic winches they used with a PTO pump and an electric back up pump a bit more interesting. __________________ 1988 Dodge AW450 Ramcharger - 318TBI - NP435 - NP205 - D60s

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07-10-2008, 07:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
WILLD420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Member # 104383 Location: N. Nevada Posts: 198	A good bilge pump will flow about 1000 gal/hour. About as much as a 5/8 water hose at your house. If you leak faster than that, you need to plan accordingly. A pto driven water pump can flow 1000 gal/15 +/- min. There are bigger ones, but you really don't want to go there for this application. I'd think you would be better off waterproofing as much as possible then go from there.

07-10-2008, 09:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
braxton357 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 14685 Location: morganton/charlotte,nc Posts: 4,557	No way any 12v bilge pump is going to do a damn thing if you've got water pouring in. As was said, drain plugs are a much better idea. That, or not going in water that's at cab level. Those brits and aussies do some weird shit though. It seems like most of the comps involve getting stuck and racing with winches...? __________________ In vino veritas 70 turbocharged 351w fastback mustang 73 linked 5.8efi Bronco 99 QCLB 4x4 twin'd cummins on meth.

07-10-2008, 10:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
Elwenil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41063 Location: Covington, VA Posts: 5,794	I've also thought that the bilge pump idea was a bit over the top. Generally you aren't going to be in deep water for long and guaranteed it will drain out quicker though the holes in the floor than a pump will get it out. I might be able to see it if you plan on driving around in flood water or something for long periods but then you better have a full military style fording kit with a pressurized drivetrain. __________________ 1988 Dodge AW450 Ramcharger - 318TBI - NP435 - NP205 - D60s

07-12-2008, 06:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
chevy79 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Member # 91657 Location: minnesota Posts: 166	why not just completely seal the cab, and you wont have to worry about the water, or get a boat interesting idea thou __________________ 75 blazer 6 inch 42sx

07-12-2008, 09:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
miniyota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5963 Location: wyoming Posts: 2,923	ever seen this top gear episode? http://www.livevideo.com/video/dudew...african-a.aspx they used a rifle to shoot a hole in the floorboard to empty the water. __________________ 2001 Range Rover HSE 4.6 2001 BMW E39 sport package

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