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Mongoose87 · 07-29-2008, 06:36 AM

So I started a diesel thread, now lets talk about axles... how common is Dana outside of the US? What else is common?

The Adam Blaster · 07-29-2008, 03:18 PM

Toy axles for sure.

quebeczuk · 07-29-2008, 04:01 PM

Your best bet as far as liability and parts availability is Toyota for sure.
Not talking about axles only. Engines, Tranny, everything.

Bandit0 · 07-29-2008, 11:26 PM

Mog portals are fairly common outside NA, but for cheap and reliable can't beat toys.

Mongoose87 · 07-30-2008, 05:38 AM

How strong are toy axles though?

the_experience3006 · 07-30-2008, 06:33 AM

Stronger than your TJ axles...

$645 for mini truck Longfields, $750 for FJ-80 Longs

Mongoose87 · 07-30-2008, 02:54 PM

Obviously anything is stronger than the crap D30 i've got up front but they are stronger than a D44?

quebeczuk · 07-30-2008, 06:56 PM

I've heard the smallest part of both Toy & 44 shafts are about 1.25"

So should be similar.

You chose if you like\dislike removable third vs dana, birfield vs joint.

the_experience3006 · 07-30-2008, 08:26 PM

1.24" minor spline diameter for the Toyota versus 1.128 for the Dana 44. The Dana 44's big advantage is the joints. I would argue that a Toyota axle is cheaper to upgrade than a 44 such as high strength shafts, crossover steering, etc. But the u-joints are still arguably stronger...

sorrel · 08-01-2008, 02:18 AM

Hi everybody, i'm luca from italy, I'm very proud to write in this forum for the firsttime!!! Downhere the best upgrade for tj or Yj in terms of strenght and weight is to swap nissan gr Y61 axles. they weight more or less 400 lbs(pair) and come stock with 37 spline shafts and the housing is one piece.. more or less the same construction of toy axles but really BIGGER!!

GQtim · 08-01-2008, 05:58 AM

Nissan diffs are the go

the axles luca is talking about are known as GU nissan patrol diffs in aus, basicly if you compete or do hardcore wheeling you will eventually upgrade to nissan diffs

offroadjunkie · 08-01-2008, 07:28 AM

but dont most places out side of america stick to 33 to 35 inch tires, i know in some places in europe there are legal limits to how big of tires you can have, which is why in europe wheeling videos their rigs always look small.

r0nin89 · 08-03-2008, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offroadjunkie

but dont most places out side of america stick to 33 to 35 inch tires, i know in some places in europe there are legal limits to how big of tires you can have, which is why in europe wheeling videos their rigs always look small.

I think alot of it isnt just the laws but also the fact that people from other countries dont have the bigger is better mindset us Americans do. Bigger fries and bigger trucks, its the way we are. Truth of the matter is that 90% of us could get by with 33's.

Not to mention when you start talking about driving roads as much as trails those sizes are more practical.

07-29-2008, 06:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mongoose87 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99626 Location: Hampton Roads, VA Posts: 114	Axles So I started a diesel thread, now lets talk about axles... how common is Dana outside of the US? What else is common? __________________ 84 CJ w/ some stuff done to it

07-29-2008, 03:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
The Adam Blaster Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1479 Location: Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta Posts: 4,273	Toy axles for sure. __________________ Just call me Humpty Dumpty.

07-29-2008, 04:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
quebeczuk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 15219 Location: Quebec City Posts: 57	Your best bet as far as liability and parts availability is Toyota for sure. Not talking about axles only. Engines, Tranny, everything. __________________ Vive les Rockies tabarnak! "Dunlop, sti'd'chien sale!"

07-29-2008, 11:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bandit0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43101 Location: NW AR Posts: 121	Mog portals are fairly common outside NA, but for cheap and reliable can't beat toys. __________________ "Embrace the suck"

07-30-2008, 05:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mongoose87 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99626 Location: Hampton Roads, VA Posts: 114	How strong are toy axles though? __________________ 84 CJ w/ some stuff done to it

07-30-2008, 06:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
the_experience3006 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 80052 Location: St. James, MN Posts: 1,721	Stronger than your TJ axles... $645 for mini truck Longfields, $750 for FJ-80 Longs __________________ [QUOTE=abig84;9192789]i swear id be gay if it wasn't for all the gay sex that's involved[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TexasBlake;10305687]She's not that hot. I was just looking for a quick lay and she all wanted to like go on dates and shit. [/QUOTE]

07-30-2008, 02:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mongoose87 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99626 Location: Hampton Roads, VA Posts: 114	Obviously anything is stronger than the crap D30 i've got up front but they are stronger than a D44? __________________ 84 CJ w/ some stuff done to it

07-30-2008, 06:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
quebeczuk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 15219 Location: Quebec City Posts: 57	I've heard the smallest part of both Toy & 44 shafts are about 1.25" So should be similar. You chose if you like\dislike removable third vs dana, birfield vs joint. __________________ Vive les Rockies tabarnak! "Dunlop, sti'd'chien sale!"

07-30-2008, 08:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
the_experience3006 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 80052 Location: St. James, MN Posts: 1,721	1.24" minor spline diameter for the Toyota versus 1.128 for the Dana 44. The Dana 44's big advantage is the joints. I would argue that a Toyota axle is cheaper to upgrade than a 44 such as high strength shafts, crossover steering, etc. But the u-joints are still arguably stronger... __________________ [QUOTE=abig84;9192789]i swear id be gay if it wasn't for all the gay sex that's involved[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TexasBlake;10305687]She's not that hot. I was just looking for a quick lay and she all wanted to like go on dates and shit. [/QUOTE]

08-01-2008, 02:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
sorrel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Member # 117021 Location: Parma, Italy Posts: 3	Hi everybody, i'm luca from italy, I'm very proud to write in this forum for the firsttime!!! Downhere the best upgrade for tj or Yj in terms of strenght and weight is to swap nissan gr Y61 axles. they weight more or less 400 lbs(pair) and come stock with 37 spline shafts and the housing is one piece.. more or less the same construction of toy axles but really BIGGER!!

08-01-2008, 05:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
GQtim Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Member # 71599 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 259	Nissan diffs are the go the axles luca is talking about are known as GU nissan patrol diffs in aus, basicly if you compete or do hardcore wheeling you will eventually upgrade to nissan diffs __________________ 89 GQ patrol. 4.2 diesel. gone 2003 GU Patrol 4.2 turbo intercooled diesel

08-01-2008, 07:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
offroadjunkie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 80641 Location: Lincoln, Ca/Denver, Co Posts: 1,302	but dont most places out side of america stick to 33 to 35 inch tires, i know in some places in europe there are legal limits to how big of tires you can have, which is why in europe wheeling videos their rigs always look small. __________________ [QUOTE=beater82;10779355]You should try patriotism. That stuff can fuck some shit up.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=DillWeed;9324924]Kid... you are looking for a dance club and you stumbled into an old school tavern full of mean drunks...Run for your life.[/QUOTE] 1990 yj, 44/60, d300, howell FI- sold

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