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miniyota · 01-03-2009, 09:55 AM

since i have added a winch and some other stuff.

i think a new battery would be good.

i've heard a lot of bad things about Optima's, i'm thinking about getting a gel battery.

does anyone have any experience with these.

when i was surveying we used a small 12V wheel chair gel battery.

it worked great on our GPS equipment, it would hold a charge all day long.

Colorado Ron · 01-03-2009, 10:37 AM

I run yellow top Optimas and love them. I have them in all my rigs and putting a set in my offroad trailer soon.

miniyota · 01-03-2009, 03:11 PM

how about these orbitals?

The Ultimate automotive starting battery. Sealed, spillproof AGM spiral wound automotive battery. Vibrtion resistant, built for performance in the toughest environments.

Automotive AGM battery
Sealed and spillproof
Group 35/75 size
750 cca, 80 min rc
spiral wound lead recombination technology
MFG Model # : ORB75DT-84
MFG Part # : ORB75DT-84
Usage : Automotive

4Mogger · 01-03-2009, 03:16 PM

Odyssey and be done with it.
Expensive but last twice as long. Work as a deep cycle, work as a starting battery.
Optima is not a bad battery but they do not last long in my rigs for some reason, three years is about it.
LOVE my Odysseys.

tacomamike · 01-03-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniyota

since i have added a winch and some other stuff.

i think a new battery would be good.

i've heard a lot of bad things about Optima's, i'm thinking about getting a gel battery.

does anyone have any experience with these.

when i was surveying we used a small 12V wheel chair gel battery.

it worked great on our GPS equipment, it would hold a charge all day long.

I've had really bad luck with Optimas over the last few years. A friend turned me on to this and I have been really happy with it.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Depending on your rig and willingness to do a little fab work, you might be able to fit two in the stock location. I just built a two battery tray for my wife's Tacoma.

Regards,
....Mike

rockreligious · 01-03-2009, 04:26 PM

Ive heard bad about optima's, but I have had them in everything I own for years without any trouble.

DOUG38S · 01-03-2009, 06:48 PM

www.rockracingbattery.com

86Yota4.70 · 01-03-2009, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniyota

how about these orbitals?

The Ultimate automotive starting battery. Sealed, spillproof AGM spiral wound automotive battery. Vibrtion resistant, built for performance in the toughest environments.

Automotive AGM battery
Sealed and spillproof
Group 35/75 size
750 cca, 80 min rc
spiral wound lead recombination technology
MFG Model # : ORB75DT-84
MFG Part # : ORB75DT-84
Usage : Automotive

Best battery I have ever owned.. hands down

Hayes · 01-03-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOUG38S

www.rockracingbattery.com

Newb question. Does anything have to upgraded when running 16 volts instead of 12?

miniyota · 01-04-2009, 06:43 AM

think i'm going to go with this one.

not sure on the warranty. i have not been able to find one locally yet. sometimes i hate living in such a small town.

they do have a deep cycle. it has an 18 month free replacement warranty.

http://www.exide.com/products/automo...bital_XCD.html

here are the specs
http://www.exide.com/pdf/orbital_xcd...d_features.pdf

i'm going to see if i can get one up in montana. not sure on the price yet.

ZR2Steve · 01-04-2009, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

Newb question. Does anything have to upgraded when running 16 volts instead of 12?

It mainly depends on how your race truck is set up.

You might get more replys on a ‘speed’ forum vs this place.

Hayes · 01-04-2009, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZR2Steve

It mainly depends on how your race truck is set up.

You might get more replys on a ‘speed’ forum vs this place.

I only asked because the link took me to a 16 volt battery, which I assumed he was recommending...

Hayes · 01-04-2009, 10:23 AM

alas, it was just a picture, when I *GASP* read the page, it ahs 12 volt batteries as well.

gunsablazin · 01-04-2009, 10:43 AM

have had excellent luck with Orbital's, run them in several vehicals

smalltowncowboy · 01-04-2009, 03:53 PM

a friend of mine who owns a battery store said the old optimas were good batteries but now they are using inferior lead inside their batteries and so they are not worth a damn now.

MR4WD · 01-04-2009, 08:36 PM

I bought two of the biggest red tops last year for my duramax. Not worth the powder to blow to hell. Spectacular at first, but now I can't hold a charge for more than 2 days.

I took them to the dealer and he load tested them fine, so I get none of the 10 year warranty!?!

maxyedor · 01-04-2009, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smalltowncowboy

a friend of mine who owns a battery store said the old optimas were good batteries but now they are using inferior lead inside their batteries and so they are not worth a damn now.

It's true, I've seen lots of failures, melt-downs and explosions with newer Optimas, I'd rather have a factory battery than one of those POSs.

I run the Exide Orbital marine deep cycle batteries and they fully kick ass.

ramv · 01-11-2009, 05:25 PM

I would recommend a Diehard Platinum. Same as an Odessy but longer warranty. Cheaper too. A lot more then an Optima thoguh.

I have one of each, (an'03 Optima, '08 Diehard). I will let you know... (different rigs)

RockMolester · 01-14-2009, 04:02 PM

The Odyssey/DieHard Platinum is a great battery.

Another better-than-Optima-and-Exide choice is the Deka Intimidator. You can get them for a decent price rebadged at CarQuest.

BAGDADEXPRESS · 01-15-2009, 03:39 AM

Perhaps, finding a place for another battery would be a good idea. Mount low and between axles is best to keep low cg.

Isolate the batteries and you don't have the worry of both being dead for one reason or another.

While my burb came w/dual batteries I'm working on installing 2 more under chassis while doing my genset install.

85blue4runner · 01-15-2009, 08:43 PM

any confirmation that the Platinum is the same as an Odyssey?? seems kinda weird to me..

Rhinoracer · 01-15-2009, 10:05 PM

I too owned an Optima, didn't last long. About a year and 1/2. Cheaper mexican batteries last 3-4 years, the Delco green eye ones last 5 years but can't get them anymore down here.

GRMhick · 01-15-2009, 10:31 PM

I've ran Optimas, and Odysseys. Odyssey is nicer, and what I run in my camper shell as a 2nd battery. But my favorite is still a pair of wal mart batteries I picked up used from a guy in '05. He bought them new in '04. They are trolling motor batteries. I want to say a group 27 deep cycle. Both have been run dead. One read 1v before I charged it (over 3 days) back to spec. Worked perfect. I put them in my truck, after killing a red top optima every 1-3 months.
I can't say enough about these things. Been in multiple vehicles, without any issues at all.

01-03-2009, 09:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
miniyota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5963 Location: wyoming Posts: 2,928	Off-Road Battery's since i have added a winch and some other stuff. i think a new battery would be good. i've heard a lot of bad things about Optima's, i'm thinking about getting a gel battery. does anyone have any experience with these. when i was surveying we used a small 12V wheel chair gel battery. it worked great on our GPS equipment, it would hold a charge all day long. __________________ 2001 Range Rover HSE 4.6 2001 BMW E39 sport package

01-03-2009, 10:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Colorado Ron Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41557 Location: Frederick CO Posts: 534	I run yellow top Optimas and love them. I have them in all my rigs and putting a set in my offroad trailer soon. __________________ Ron Douglas of: [URL="http://www.OverlandJourney.com"]OverlandJourney.com[/URL] [URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=623057"]Official Cummins Suburban Expedition Build.[/URL] Cummins/6speed/HP 60

01-03-2009, 03:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
miniyota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5963 Location: wyoming Posts: 2,928	how about these orbitals? The Ultimate automotive starting battery. Sealed, spillproof AGM spiral wound automotive battery. Vibrtion resistant, built for performance in the toughest environments. Automotive AGM battery Sealed and spillproof Group 35/75 size 750 cca, 80 min rc spiral wound lead recombination technology MFG Model # : ORB75DT-84 MFG Part # : ORB75DT-84 Usage : Automotive __________________ 2001 Range Rover HSE 4.6 2001 BMW E39 sport package

01-03-2009, 04:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
rockreligious Granite Guru Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 26858 Location: Ephraim, Utah Posts: 857	Ive heard bad about optima's, but I have had them in everything I own for years without any trouble. __________________ NoEcoNaziAmmo

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01-03-2009, 03:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
4Mogger Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33748 Location: Montrose, CO Posts: 2,734	Odyssey and be done with it. Expensive but last twice as long. Work as a deep cycle, work as a starting battery. Optima is not a bad battery but they do not last long in my rigs for some reason, three years is about it. LOVE my Odysseys.

01-04-2009, 06:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
miniyota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5963 Location: wyoming Posts: 2,928	think i'm going to go with this one. not sure on the warranty. i have not been able to find one locally yet. sometimes i hate living in such a small town. they do have a deep cycle. it has an 18 month free replacement warranty. http://www.exide.com/products/automo...bital_XCD.html here are the specs http://www.exide.com/pdf/orbital_xcd...d_features.pdf i'm going to see if i can get one up in montana. not sure on the price yet. __________________ 2001 Range Rover HSE 4.6 2001 BMW E39 sport package

01-04-2009, 10:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Member # 71441 Posts: 251	alas, it was just a picture, when I GASP read the page, it ahs 12 volt batteries as well.

01-04-2009, 10:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
gunsablazin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Member # 122715 Location: White Mountains, Eastern Arizona Posts: 272	have had excellent luck with Orbital's, run them in several vehicals

01-04-2009, 03:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
smalltowncowboy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68801 Location: rock springs Posts: 248	a friend of mine who owns a battery store said the old optimas were good batteries but now they are using inferior lead inside their batteries and so they are not worth a damn now.

01-04-2009, 08:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
MR4WD Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11484 Location: Salmon Arm, BC Posts: 997	I bought two of the biggest red tops last year for my duramax. Not worth the powder to blow to hell. Spectacular at first, but now I can't hold a charge for more than 2 days. I took them to the dealer and he load tested them fine, so I get none of the 10 year warranty!?!

01-11-2009, 05:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
ramv Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11921 Location: Denver Posts: 3,132	I would recommend a Diehard Platinum. Same as an Odessy but longer warranty. Cheaper too. A lot more then an Optima thoguh. I have one of each, (an'03 Optima, '08 Diehard). I will let you know... (different rigs) __________________ My build thread: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508537[/url]

01-14-2009, 04:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
RockMolester Rock God Join Date: Mar 2004 Member # 28602 Location: Echo Summit, CA Posts: 1,337	The Odyssey/DieHard Platinum is a great battery. Another better-than-Optima-and-Exide choice is the Deka Intimidator. You can get them for a decent price rebadged at CarQuest. __________________ 2010 Jeep Rubicon: Daily driven rockcrawler BlueRibbon Coalition: Fight to keep public lands open to the public!

01-15-2009, 03:39 AM	#20 (permalink)
BAGDADEXPRESS Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Member # 120891 Posts: 113	After you chose Perhaps, finding a place for another battery would be a good idea. Mount low and between axles is best to keep low cg. Isolate the batteries and you don't have the worry of both being dead for one reason or another. While my burb came w/dual batteries I'm working on installing 2 more under chassis while doing my genset install.

01-15-2009, 08:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
85blue4runner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33536 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,142	any confirmation that the Platinum is the same as an Odyssey?? seems kinda weird to me..

01-15-2009, 10:05 PM	#22 (permalink)
Rhinoracer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Member # 104907 Location: All over Baja, main camp TJ Posts: 68	I too owned an Optima, didn't last long. About a year and 1/2. Cheaper mexican batteries last 3-4 years, the Delco green eye ones last 5 years but can't get them anymore down here.

01-15-2009, 10:31 PM	#23 (permalink)
GRMhick Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 87 Location: I live in hotels tear out the walls I have accountants pay for it all Posts: 7,207	I've ran Optimas, and Odysseys. Odyssey is nicer, and what I run in my camper shell as a 2nd battery. But my favorite is still a pair of wal mart batteries I picked up used from a guy in '05. He bought them new in '04. They are trolling motor batteries. I want to say a group 27 deep cycle. Both have been run dead. One read 1v before I charged it (over 3 days) back to spec. Worked perfect. I put them in my truck, after killing a red top optima every 1-3 months. I can't say enough about these things. Been in multiple vehicles, without any issues at all. Last edited by GRMhick; 01-15-2009 at 10:31 PM.

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