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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Location: Tracy California
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I wouldn't get neither
for true 4x4ing I would get a H2
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Location: Chino, Ca
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You guys got it all wrong..
It's all about the KIA's! But seriously, I am debating on buying either one within a week or two. Any input? The main thing I am worried about is reliability on the trail, I go out alone a lot. I hear the 22RE and the 4.0 are a couple of the best motors made but, what would you choose?? |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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we give you shit because well either one could work... it depends entirely on what you want to do
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Join Date: Aug 2000
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Location: Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta
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Well, if you're paying the same price for both, then I'd go with the vehicle that was 15 years younger than the other.
![]() There is another thread where someone is debating between a Taco and an XJ. Search for that one and see what you think.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Location: Eh?
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I'm a jeep guy, I won't lie about that. I basically think toyota mini-trucks are for pre-op transexuals.
But, an 01 XJ would NOT be my first choice. 01 has issues with the head cracking, quite a big issue actually. A lot of them have cracked and been replaced with exactly the same head - so they're just waiting to crack again. Also, the front axle is low pinion. Not a good starting place. It does have the distributorless ignition though, which I think is a good thing. Personaly I'm more into the who renix EFI anyways because all my spares and diagnostics tools fit in a fairly small space. But that's me. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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I'd go with the toyota a lot of the developing world agrees and has put this platform through it's paces. I mean how many xj's do you see driving around afganistan or iraq(a brutal life for ANY vehicle)...not many. What you do see is Arabs running around in nissan and toyota pickups...and jeeps ARE in fact available by jeep or mahindra, over there. They just choose not to drive them.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Member # 27501
Location: Denver,CO.
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Toyota! I would use a Tacoma with the V6.
I use to have a 1990 excab toyota 22RE,two 1985 runner`s, 1988 excab longbed, 1981 shortbed, but the power and room was finally getting to me, so I bought a 1995 single cab Dodge cummins diesel for my Expedition rig, and I get 21-22mpg, my toyota was getting 19mpg. Now I can do 100mph over the passes if I want, and pull three toyota`s when I`m doing it!
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Location: las vegas nv
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Its a toyota thing(you wouldnt understand)
Until you got to the rocks,As for then youd be seein 84 toy tailgate all day.As for the question,If you have a family,you need the room no matter the sacrifices youd make to get the "x J",if not,Id def get the yota,twice the truck for half the buck.and if you aint breakin it, you aint usin it.Its all about upgrades. As or the macho the Jeep guy,your def a post op tranny wearing your sisters panties.Toyotas rule FOOL!
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Location: Augusta GA
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i like tacos, but when you are buying one you are never getting twice the truck for half the buck, period. tacos hold their value, sometimes so much so that they are rediculously overpriced. XJs for whatever reason are much cheaper to buy. Add that to the fact that there are very few motors made like the 4.0 that can be beat on and maintained poorly and still make it to 200k with doing nothing to the motor, no new timing chains, no nothing.
That being said, i have an XJ now and have driven it back and forth across the US a couple times in the last couple years and its begining to get really crowded. With my wife, my son, and my dog in the back we look like the beverly hillbillies with as much crap as we have on my roof rack. I think i would like to get an FZJ80 cause they are a bit bigger and in my mind would be a better expedition rig for families. |
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Location: las vegas nv
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When I said twice the truck for half the buck,I was talking old school toys then use the price difference for upgrades
Sounds like space is your priority.Might even want to consider an off road pull behind trailer.Theres some nice ones out there,although ive never used one,but if your goin with a larger motor anyways,then pulling a trailer shouldnt be a problem.We use our tundra 4x4with a 4.7,lots of room,lots of power to pull our 84 runner when necessary ,both built for well under the price of a new xj or taco and the runner is footloose and fancy free and we dont have to worry about breaking stuff we dont!We fixed most of the "weak" stuff and now have a quality 4x that we dont have to worry about "scarring".I can buy a complete cab for 800 believe you me I rollem(thinkin about goin exo) so now have the best of both worlds, a bad ass 4x and a guaranteed ride home.Weve been from the Strait of San juan de fuca to Rosarito Mexico in our 84.We leave the tundra home.I just think for the money when all is said and done,older is better for real wheeling,no in betweeners hope.My buddys comin over this weekend in his H3 to do some wheelin at Mead.I cant wait.I know he will follow me ,I know ill have to give him a ride home. LOL. Ps Dogs love riding in the back of a truck.Dogs love trucks period.Take your dog when you make your purchase,drop the tailgates see where he goes.My dog will piss on the jeep tires and jump in the toy!!
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Location: Perth west aust
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Location: galt ca, because i wanted my own backyard
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no shit, at least go with a vehicel that has a frame.
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Location: San Mateo , Bay Area CA
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im currently thinkin bout the same thing. its not about whats better toyota or jeep..... cause chevy is the best. im leaning toward a toyota with a soft top on the bed so i can haul my dirtbike and sleep in the back camping. just figure out what u want to do with it and look at the pros and cons or buy both
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Location: Concord, CA
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they are both good platforms. i do like the hauling capacity of my toyota pickup. throw on a camper shell, build a sleeping platform, strap down a fridge, get a few jerry cans and maybe a large poly water tank, and you're good to go! i like being able to sleep in the bed, but sometimes i miss having a back seat so i might buy a 4runner next time since we'll have a baby coming next year. jeeps are good too, obviously, but i drive a toyota because that's what my brothers and friends drive and it's what we know how to work on and we can share or hand-down parts.
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You need to decide what you're really gonna haul, people or gear. If not kids, etc. then maybe you want the XJ for being able to haul gear and keep it locked up??
Like others have said, there will be tons of pros and cons for both. I was in a similar quandry a few months back, but between an XJ and FJ80 Landcruiser. I also considered 1st and 2nd gen 4runners, but I really wanted straight axles and 6 cyl. and the newest, most comfy ride I could get for around $4k or less. I opted for a '99 XJ http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...=soccer+mom+xj I also wanted something I could take the kids around in, and as it turns out my 16 year old needed a car to drive to school. So my weekend toy is his daily driver, lucky him... I'm a big guy, so lots of room would have been nice, but my wife has a Suburban for that.
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