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Old 08-31-2012, 02:47 PM   #801 (permalink)
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Looks sharp! Can't wait to see this thing back together.
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:03 PM   #802 (permalink)
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So is there anything that goes between the cab and the frame for vibration?
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:43 PM   #803 (permalink)
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So is there anything that goes between the cab and the frame for vibration?
Yeah, the cab sits on rubber pads and uses hardware on springs so the body can pull-away from the chassis when things flex. Just went and picked-up some misc. nuts and bolts this evening, and will post pics tomorrow when I install all the new hardware.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:27 PM   #804 (permalink)
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Just posted this to steelsoldiers forums...

Went to hang the doors today and got hung-up instead. What's the best way to adjust the fit? Would be easy if I needed to shim them backwards, but the doors on both sides need to go forwards. Can bend the brackets forward. Or maybe put shims (washers) behind the brackets on the inside? Only thing is, don't think that's going to move them far enough forward. Wouldn't be such a big deal, but I want to get the doors shimmed right so I can install weatherstripping to help with the noise and heat. So I'm thinking that bending the brackets is looking like the only option. Just wanted to ask before I give that a try tomorrow morning., to make sure I'm not missing anything, or haven't done something wrong.


Here are the dimensions that I'm working with, taken as shown in the pic:

door openings (cab) - 34.5" (+-) top/bottom on both sides

doors (length) - 34.25" top/bottom on both doors

distance from hinge (center) to back of door opening (cab)
  • 33.5" left top
  • 33.4125" left bottom
  • 33.5625" right top
  • 33.8125" right bottom

distance from hinge (center) to back of doors
  • 33.625" left top
  • 33.6875" left bottom
  • 33.625" right top
  • 33.6875" right bottom


Oh, and I realized that I installed the hinges backwards the first time. Switched the hinges around, but that didn't affect the fit.







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Old 08-31-2012, 10:34 PM   #805 (permalink)
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No expert but with exposed hinges I would say maybe whack them with a hammer. Didn't they fit before? Maybe if you put the top on it would cause the door jambs to spread out
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:40 PM   #806 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's going to take a little more than a whack with a hammer. Tried that with a block of wood and more than a few good swings with a sledgehammer today and only managed to move one set of hinges about 1/8". Was trying to preserve the paint, but dunno if that's going to be possible. Will just do whatever it takes to make them fit and then repaint if necessary. Those big gussets in the door openings are there to strengthen the cab, and besides, the door openings are pretty close to square, so spreading the cab would only be making things worse.

Oh, and it's a new cab. Parts were spread out all over the place, so didn't get to test-fit anything.
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I'd see how much you need to gain and then pull the hinges and put them in a vice and heat, then bend as necessary. It's going to ruin the paint but it shouldn't be a big deal to repaint just the hinges.
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:53 AM   #808 (permalink)
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Was thinking about waiting till Monday and go down to PacFab to see if I can bend them in a hydraulic press without messing up the paint, but I still have a lot of small parts that need to get painted anyway...
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Old 09-01-2012, 04:56 AM   #809 (permalink)
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Ok my bad I thought I remembered this being completely fitted together before paint.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:44 AM   #810 (permalink)
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Westech over on the steelsoldiers forum had a great suggestion. He works on a ton of these old rigs, and I think he turns wrenches in the military... anyway, he told me to use a jack to adjust the hinges while they're on the truck. Stupid-simple. Dunno why I didn't think of that. Going to go give that a shot a little later this morning. Pretty sure that'll do the trick.
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:32 PM   #811 (permalink)
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Just tried bending the hinges with a hydraulic ram while they were installed and that's a big no-go. Started to spread the door opening. Not really spreading, so much as twisting the A-pillar. Would probably work alright for the lower hinges, but the uppers need heat - or to be removed and bent in a press.



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There was a nasty coating of shit on the side vent covers. Looked like they came out of a restaurant kitchen. Had to soak them in gasoline and scour them with a wire brush to get them clean.





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Got the dash back in there. When I'm in the cab, it's like working on one of my old Jeeps. It's only when I'm climbing up a ladder to get into it, or jumping 4ft down to the ground, that I remember it's just little bit... bigger.

Swear I've spent more time in the hardware store than working on mah deuce over the last few days. But all that nice new hardware sure is sexxay. Anti-seize on errythang. Taking this rig apart, I gained a new appreciation for the stuff. Not a single seized bolt. Oh, except for those fawking door hinges. Anway, chased all the threads and reinstalled all of the old dash-plaques and most of the switches and gages and stuff.

Yes, I could have cleaned-up and painted a lot of those small parts. No, I wasn't just being lazy. I like the patina on that stuff. I do NOT however, like that old driver's seat.















How about that seat? Put over 4000 miles on it like that. Just plopped a pillow on-top. Not sure if I'll get around to making/buying new seats before I get it running again. Really need to figure that out.
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Also Started a thread over on steelsoldiers to get a little help with a few things. If you can help, post-up over there for a chance to win a free pair of hubsteps.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:52 AM   #815 (permalink)
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I love seeing this thing come back together. Nice work Jesse.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:13 PM   #816 (permalink)
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wow. just spent two days at "work" reading this whole thing! its crazy to see all the places you go as i used to live in MH so i recognize a lot of the places and even pretty sure the area where you live. (not a stalker i swear)

think the white looks killer and am definitly envious of this project. sub'd to follow along.
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Yup. Good old Morgan Hill. Had been about 10yrs since, but I grew up here and moved back to stay with my family while I'm finishing-up the motorhome. Having Pacific Fabrication here in town is great. Was just down there earlier today using their hydraulic press to adjust my door hinges. But that didn't work out too well. Adjusted the first hinge without any trouble, but the second one snapped as soon as I put the first bit of pressure on it. Looks like they're actually two different style hinges. The one that bent easily looks like formed sheetmetal and the other was cast. Gotta see about getting a couple more of those sheetmetal hinges now, so can't hang the doors. No big deal, except that mounting them on the truck means I don't have to store them somewhere else.



Also went down to Agri-Trade and picked up the windshield frame and a bunch of misc. parts. Honestly, it's been so long that I don't even remember where half of this shit goes...



But I think the black-on-white is looking pretty good.

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Why not fab up some hinges from a piece of plate? Looks like they could be made pretty easily to correct specs out of plate and some small tubing.

Then again there are a lot of Deuces getting scrapped so someone on SS is bound to have some for sale cheap.
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Then again there are a lot of Deuces getting scrapped so someone on SS is bound to have some for sale cheap.
Exactly. Not trying to waste a bunch of time making door hinges.
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Eh, you could have a set of those made long before anyone could ship you a set.
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Waiting for an overall assembled pic, but that white and black is growing on me.
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Eh, you could have a set of those made long before anyone could ship you a set.
Someone already told me they've got some extra hinges coming my way, and I can think of a lot of better things to do with my time than make a new set of hinges. So much to do, trying to limit the time I spend working on stuff to the things that are really going to make a difference. Hinges? No.
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Waiting for an overall assembled pic, but that white and black is growing on me.
Looking forward to seeing all put back together too. There's not even enough room in the driveway to get any kind of perspective. Think it's gonna be alright though. Kinda digging all the little bits of leftover OD too. But the white paint is really only a basecoat. The whole rig is probably going to get wrapped anyway.
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By the way, that composite A3 hood is reallyfuckingstrong.

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Yeah, I can see by that pic that you have a lot more important things to spend your time on, lol.


I'm just messing with you, how you do your hinges is your business and I'm sure it will turn out fine. I just though that making them might be quicker and might solve any alignment problems you may run into. You never know, that cab may have been rejected at some point due to dimensional tolerances that may keep the stock hinges from working. Yeah, that's a long shot, but you never know, lol.
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I know, and you're right. I was concerned about that too. But all of the critical dimensions seem to be spot-on. The door opening are the right size, and square, and a bunch of guys on steelsoldiers have confirmed that the hinges need to be adjusted on a lot of these older trucks, especially when mixing and matching parts. It's just that realistically, I'd spend at least half a day making those hinges, and I don't really need doors on the truck right now. So they're leaning up against one of the tires until the new hinges show-up.
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