Shaving a divorced 205...the drapes not the carpet.

[dozer_xj]

So I have a 205 I’m putting in a XJ buggy. To clock it flat the factory mounts are going to create clearance issues. Can I cut the mounts off (red) and make a mount bolting it to the exterior bolts on the front and back (yellow) like the Toyota guys? That picture was from google so I dont know what they have going on on the bottom side left already but I will use more bolts then that. Yes, I have searched. Thanks guys!

[huff75]

I have never been in a divorced case but I would pull it apart and check it. My guess is that you can grind it down as long as you don't make the case any thinner than the rest of the case. As long as its apart pull the shift rails and mod them for front drive. The mount in the pic on the right in the red. I would leave it if at all possable and use it with the new brace as it will be strong. I am guessing you are clocking it up. I would drill the PTO cover and weld on a bung with a plug. Use this as the new fill hole as the stock one will not be enough anymore. You could also buy a new cover from Northwest Fab as they already have this.

[dozer_xj]

Originally Posted by huff75

I have never been in a divorced case but I would pull it apart and check it. Ten four! My guess is that you can grind it down as long as you don't make the case any thinner than the rest of the case. As long as its apart pull the shift rails and mod them for front drive. I will have to search more on this. The mount in the pic on the right in the red. I would leave it if at all possable and use it with the new brace as it will be strong. I agreeI am guessing you are clocking it up. I would drill the PTO cover and weld on a bung with a plug. I could also use the PTO cover bolts in the mount! Use this as the new fill hole as the stock one will not be enough anymore. You could also buy a new cover from Northwest Fab as they already have this.

Thanks Huff!

[old army .45]

or get a married one that doesnt have all the... uh ...protrusions.

[dahoyle]

Cut as much as you like. Just be prepared to plate over the hole you create, after fully disassembling the case to ensure you aren't filling it with grindings and welding splatter.

[dozer_xj]

Originally Posted by old army .45

or get a married one that doesnt have all the... uh ...protrusions.

I have one but it wouldnt work on the back of my 2wd 465. bassically my cheap ass way to get a ford t-case behing a GM motor and trans.

Will the input swap to the married 205?

[dahoyle]

Originally Posted by dozer_xj

Will the input swap to the married 205?

I don't remember the bearing size on the divorced case, but it's easy to tell.

Pull the yoke off the Ford input, and then remove the bearing retainer.
Then pull the bearing retainer off the GM case. If the outside diameter of the bearings is the same, then it'll all swap.

Either way, you need to spend some time deciding how you are going to mount the thing.

[dozer_xj]

Originally Posted by dahoyle

I don't remember the bearing size on the divorced case, but it's easy to tell.

Pull the yoke off the Ford input, and then remove the bearing retainer.
Then pull the bearing retainer off the GM case. If the outside diameter of the bearings is the same, then it'll all swap.

Either way, you need to spend some time deciding how you are going to mount the thing.

Both cases I have are Ford. I have a 79 Ford60 so I need drivers drop.

[dahoyle]

Originally Posted by dozer_xj

Both cases I have are Ford. I have a 79 Ford60 so I need drivers drop.

Still need to check the bearing size, or look up the input bearing number. I have both at the house, but don't remember if the divorced case uses the large or the small bearing.

[huff75]

Originally Posted by dahoyle

Still need to check the bearing size, or look up the input bearing number. I have both at the house, but don't remember if the divorced case uses the large or the small bearing.

Divorced case is a small bearing. Has a male input for the yoke.

[K5runner@hotmail.com]

ford divorce cases are all 32spline in and outs.

You can get a married case and just swap the input. Drill for the external seal/bearing retainer. Done. 205's are cheap.

[dozer_xj]

Originally Posted by K5runner@hotmail.com

ford divorce cases are all 32spline in and outs.

You can get a married case and just swap the input. Drill for the external seal/bearing retainer. . Done. 205's are cheap.

I already have both style cases but I dont want to cannibalise one of them to make the married one divorcedif I can just trim the divorced unit. Plus I would bet its harder than you make it sound.

[dahoyle]

Originally Posted by huff75

Divorced case is a small bearing

That's what I was thinking. It's been awhile since I looked at the divorced guts, and I'm working out of town so I couldn't check.

Originally Posted by K5runner@hotmail.com

ford divorce cases are all 32spline in and outs.

You can get a married case and just swap the input. Drill for the external seal/bearing retainer. Done. 205's are cheap.

Uh, no you can't. That was the entire reason for checking the bearing size. A married Ford case is a large bearing. No way to install a small bearing input without doing some hack bulshit like a spacer or something. Just because it is 32 spline, does not mean it's a big bearing. Divorced is different.

[dahoyle]

Originally Posted by dozer_xj

I already have both style cases but I dont want to cannibalise one of them to make the married one divorcedif I can just trim the divorced unit. Plus I would bet its harder than you make it sound.

Actually, if it had the same bearing, then it isn't hard. Takes all of 15 minutes to swap the input gear from one to the other. In any case, It depends on the input bearing size, as has already been pointed out several times. Get off your ass and check, if you doubt that.

As to cutting the case. I already told you. Get the case, cut off the offending mount, weld a plate over the hole, and put the guts back in.

How about you do some work for yourself now. Pull the studs, and measure the depth of the holes. I would guess that would be close to the limit to how much you can cut off without leaving a hole which must be plated.

Another possibility is to use a divorced Dodge case, and swap sides. Take the two clusters out, and swap them in the casing. Dodge and International cases don't have that massive protrusion.

There are any number of ways to do what you are trying to do, but you have to get your hands dirty, and you WILL become familiar with the insides of a 205.

[dozer_xj]

Originally Posted by dahoyle

Get off your ass and check, if you doubt that.

As to cutting the case. I already told you. Get the case, cut off the offending mount, weld a plate over the hole, and put the guts back in.

How about you do some work for yourself now.

but you have to get your hands dirty, and you WILL become familiar with the insides of a 205.

Thanks for the help. I plan on getting dirty but I am 120 miles away from the transfercases at school. I graduate college this week so Ill be able to look for myself, I just wanted to avoid studying and ask you guys if you knew of it being done before.
I did search divorced ford 205 mounts multiple times on here and google but all of them are using the top bolts. Ill tear into it and let you know. Im about a month away from even dealing with the transfercase. I still need to get the motor and transmision put in first!

[huff75]

My only concern with grinding the mount was if the case, when it was cast, had that mount completly solid to the top or if part of it was cast hollow and only the last inch or so was solid for the bolts. For it to be hollow would not make sense but ther is a lot of shit the factorys have done that did not make sense. But even if it is hollow, cut it. Like Dan said, plate it afterwards.

[dozer_xj]

Originally Posted by huff75

My only concern with grinding the mount was if the case, when it was cast, had that mount completly solid to the top or if part of it was cast hollow and only the last inch or so was solid for the bolts. For it to be hollow would not make sense but ther is a lot of shit the factorys have done that did not make sense. But even if it is hollow, cut it. Like Dan said, plate it afterwards.

I agree. I would rather use this transferase since I have it already. Like say ill tear into it and check it out. I just started this thread becuase I figured someone would have done it already.

Ill give it a shot and report back! By fried has a porta-band saw that will make quick work of the project!

[dozer_xj]

I cut 1.5" off the drivers side which was how deep the bolt holes were. Cut the passengers side flush. Going to build the mount off the pto port, rear inspection cover and front output.
FITS ALOT BETTER NOW!

[dozer_xj]

Here is a pic of progress

[dozer_xj]

Just noticed I never updated this (bringing it back from the dead!!!!)






It worked great but I ended up selling the project after wheeling it only once!