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Wheeler
Join Date: Feb 2012
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straight 6 for a dd?
does anyone here dd a 300 I6? ive been looking for an f150 to dd, and it seems like all the ones i like are I6s. i have the one in my play truck but i havnt drove it but about 50 miles total so far. so what is the power like in an efi I6? fuel milage? how do they tow? (i dont tow much just the occasional scrap run, and the 79 once in a while) just looking for some opinions. thanks!
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Cactus Farmer
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Location: College Station, TX
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Tons of people daily drive them. I've personally driven several 300s, both carbed and injected, and owned a '67 F-100 with it's little brother the 240. Since you wanna know about the EFI versions:
Power? Slightly better than a carbed unit but overall lacking, like all 300s. These engines were built for torque production, and that's where they shine. Throttle response is greatly improved. Fuel mileage was 15-18 mixed, and as high as 20 when really babying it. For the occasional scrap run and trailer you'll be just fine. I would take a 300 over a 302 for a truck engine any day of the week. Even though they aren't power houses like newer engines, they are about as bulletproof as they come. There is a reason for their legendary reputation and I wouldn't think twice about using one as a daily driver. They can be built to make more power, but performance parts are harder to come by than your usual V8 goodies.
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i win diesel!!1!
Join Date: Apr 2010
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I-6's are pimp
i dd'ed an 85 e-350 work van with an I-6, c-6, d60 combo for a year or so, think it was a 60. averaged 14-15 mpg's driving easy.....in something with the aerodynamics of a fawking brick! i loved that van, and while it wasn't a beast by any means, it sure as fuck held it's own way better than my buddy's 302 e150. i'd take one now as a dd in a heartbeat. my buddy has a build for less than $2k that has a proven 2x factory horsepower. find another engine where you can do that for that cheap.if you are looking at later model efi trucks get a 5 speed truck. I-6's are way more awesome with manual trans's, and a zf-5 swap is basically a bolt in deal to make a hell of a cheap great truck.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Location: Richmond, Virginia
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I had one with a four speed. Carbed, stripped all the smog crap off it. When I was easy on it, I could get 23 MPG. Always had plenty of power, even after I put the 38" Boggers on it. I wouldn't hesitate to DD one again. In fact, I was just firing up my diesel to warm up and was halfway wishing it was a 300.
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Buddies dad drove one for 12 years in an E-250, FI, put over 400k on it. Gave it to his apprentice who is still driving it to this day. Gave it to him 5 years ago. Great fawking motor.
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Short answer..
One of my favorite engines of all times. Wouldn't hesitate to run one in a DD. Had a few in that role over the years.
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I've got a '90, 12 previous owners, with an inline 300. Over 400K on the engine (never disassembled) and the most recent PO beat on it often with only about a quart of some of the blackest oil you've ever seen in it. I've had it for 5 years, and replaced the pushrod and valve cover gaskets. Runs like a scolded ape pushing 37's with 4.10 gears
and still getting 16-17 mpg average (straight piped).
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Bruiser - 1990 Ford F150...barely...EFI 300 Big Six, Converted to 4x4, Undergoing 1 Ton SAS. |
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Rock God
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Location: Rapid City South Dakota
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IMHO once it was fuel injected it was one of the best engines to ever come out of Ford. Ran one for years in my 92' F150 short box sold it to get a bigger truck for tow duties and I still miss it over 10 years later.
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I bought a 92 F150 300 E4OD for 300 bucks 10 years ago.....I drove it DD for about 8 years, put a trans in it and sold it to a buddy 2 years ago who still daily drives it. Never did anything but fix the trans (as one would expect out of an E4OD) and put brakes on it a couple times. I wish my mud truck was a 300....if i had the coin id buy up every 300 i could find
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Location: Richmond, Virginia
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One other thing I really liked about them is that they're very quiet running motors. I was thinking about that while out exploring some dirt roads tonight in my diesel.
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Location: The Gorge, Or
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For a fullsize it's a good choice.. for sure.
I'm on my last build, Funny, It's a 300 EFI with 35's.. With the price of fuel now, It is about as good as it gets for an older fullsize rig. And if you have the larger fuel tank. you'll be one of the last having to refill.. lol Last edited by Outdoors; 03-03-2012 at 09:22 AM. |
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Location: Culpeper, Virginia
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I was just looking at a 300 I6 and a Zf5 tonight for my 65' 250 project. I want something simple, and this truck won't be anything more than a cool firewood hauler, very light wheeler.
I have a BBF sitting here to go in it, but gas isn't getting any cheaper, so I've been thinking of the 300 alot. No smog stuff for me, so that should help. |
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I have also been thinking about getting one as a daily driver because I hear they are damn near indestructible. What were the best years to get in your guys opinions?
I'm almost thinking carbed just because they are so simple. And most of you are saying get a manual, but what about the ones with a c6 behind them for cruising around town? I'd rather stay away from any E4OD's... I hate those transmissions! |
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Everybody says to get a manual because the autos tend to suck up a lot of the low end torque the 300 makes.
I've got an 86 f250 with a 300/435 that I'm building. Should have a set of tons for it within a week or 2. That truck was bad ass back when it still drove and I was wheeling and beating the piss outta it. I've been thinking of swapping a 351 or 460 into that truck, but I still don't think you can beat the motor for being able to take all the shit that it can. |
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Wheeler
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Location: Virginia
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Ive daily driven a 83 f250 with a 300 and a 4 speed since I was 16 and love that truck to death. 250k plus and it still ran like a top, even with my dumb ass drivin the piss out of it. Truck leaks every fluid known to man but reliable as can be. Put on a set of 40" tires on it with stock 4.10s and was averaging 15mpg highway/city. Truck still susprises me with the low end torque (once pulled 2 cat 910 rubber tire loaders out of a mud hole with the granny gear and 4 low). Ive got a new truck now a 77 250 supercab 2wd and was considering a 351W swap with a 4 speed but the 300 is whats going in it. Had a buddy who DD'ed a 86 250 2wd with a 300 and 4spd and was getting 21mpg out of it. In my opinion the greatest motor ford ever produced.
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83 F-250 300 4spd Welded 40" Gateways 77 F-250 Super Cab Future Tow Rig Ford 300 I6 = Greatest Motor Ford EVER Made |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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My DD is a 97 F150 with the 4.2 V6 and M5OD
It gets excellent mileage and pulls like a smallblock I like it better than the I-6's I've had, but I've never owned one with EFI.
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I had a 83 F250 longbed 2wd with the 300 six as a woods beater for a while in highschool. We lincoln locked the rear diff and put old mud tires on the back, had a 5 gallon gas can tied down under the hood as a fuel tank, put a nail in the rusted out rear brake line and went out to raise hell with the truck. It was so rotted out you had to hold the back wall of the cab forward to line the striker up with the door latch, but the frame was still solid.
We did some mean brakestands with that truck. I'm talking 1/4 mile long posi strips headed down the road with one foot hard on the front brakes, the other holding the six screaming in second. The name of the game in the woods was momentum. A 2wd longbed in tight New Hampshire 4 wheeler trails was not an ideal combination. When threading between trees you'd get the front wheels and most of the cab past the tree, then let the bedsides get environmentally streamlined. The twin I-beam front end was rugged, it would bounce over nearly any boulder or stump in its way. You couldn't ever let off on the trails or you were stuck. There were a couple log landings where you could stop and let it cool off, but other than that it was hammer down. The 300 six was great, but the auto trans behind it was a POS. I think it was an AOD, but I never bothered to check. What killed it was it lost reverse and first. No reverse meant when it got stuck, you were really stuck. After using the jeep to drag it out a couple times we drove it to the junkyard. It was a pity because it still ran great. |
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