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Stranger ranger · 04-24-2012, 07:27 PM

So im getting ready to buy some 35 spline stubbys and can't decide on whether I should get drive flanges or lockouts. I know the flanges are stronger but being able to actually unlock them still would be nice. Truck will see very minimal road time so I don't know. What do you guys run?

AllGoNoShow · 04-24-2012, 07:34 PM

Alot of it depends on how you wheel. Hubs break alot...I run Yukon drive flanges.

Proeliator · 04-24-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AllGoNoShow

Alot of it depends on how you wheel. Hubs break alot...I run Yukon drive flanges.

Yup. That said, I never did manage to break a set of Warn premium hubs I had on my 35 splines while I was on DOT tires. I'm not much of a rock crawler, but I am a throttle junkie.

Been running slugs for awhile now, but was never disappointed in the Warns while I ran them.

Stranger ranger · 04-24-2012, 07:49 PM

Yea pro I know u got some horses under that hood of yours too. With that said slugs are cheaper so I guess it all depends on how thrifty im feeling at time of order.

loveshackle · 04-24-2012, 07:51 PM

I keep hubs because I can swap it out quick & think of it as the easiest to replace "fuse" in the system. That said, I always run too big of meats for the axles according to everyone here & rarely break stuff. Pro would say I'm a pansy. Well, that's not the word he'd use.

"As slow as possible, as fast as necessary"

Proeliator · 04-24-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by loveshackle

Pro would say I'm a pansy. Well, that's not the word he'd use.

RANGERROD · 04-24-2012, 08:50 PM

Here's a thread for you

/forum/general-4x4-discussion/925510-spicer-d60-hub-lockout-reproductions-why-has-nobody-done-yet.html

InDaRed2 · 04-24-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Proeliator

Yup. That said, I never did manage to break a set of Warn premium hubs I had on my 35 splines while I was on DOT tires. I'm not much of a rock crawler, but I am a throttle junkie.

Been running slugs for awhile now, but was never disappointed in the Warns while I ran them.

I broke 2 sets of standard warns on my D44 TTB with 35's...First set exploded in the mud and second just broke the spring retainers. If its 90% trail rig might want to go with the flanges.

Bray D · 04-24-2012, 09:25 PM

Chromo D44. 35's. Doubler.

Easy to replace though, and as I see a lot of street time, I'll probably stick with lockouts for a while. Offroad only I'd probably run slugs.

edit: 35spl 60 lockouts may be stronger. I only have experience with 44 stuff so that's all I can speak to.

Proeliator · 04-24-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by InDaRed2

I broke 2 sets of standard warns on my D44 TTB with 35's...

There is a big difference between the standard Warns and the premiums. Of course, I'm talking about the tons version. I don't know much about D44 TTBs.

Because they're for pussies

As far as the earlier mentioned reference to the Spicers, yes, they are the shiznit. I ran a set of broached spicers on my 35 splined outers before they finally gave it up, then moved to the Warn premiums before ultimately flanges.

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Originally Posted by Bray D

edit: 35spl 60 lockouts may be stronger. I only have experience with 44 stuff so that's all I can speak to.

I didn't see that while I was busting indareds ass, so understandably cracked up when I saw it now

To be fair, I'd definitely stick with slugs if the op plans on running rocks more than anything else. Strongest, and cheapest.

Oh, and that is a sweet carnage pic

InDaRed2 · 04-24-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Proeliator

There is a big difference between the standard Warns and the premiums. Of course, I'm talking about the tons version. I don't know much about D44 TTBs.

Because they're for pussies

Oh, and that is a sweet carnage pic

Yes D44s are for pussies, and TTB is even worse I know.

The carnage pic is what my first blown set looked like but I didnt take pics cuz I was young and dumb.

Proeliator · 04-24-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by InDaRed2

The carnage pic is what my first blown set looked like but I didnt take pics cuz I was young and dumb.

I hear that. I've got a wall I've been stacking my offerings to the gods of speed, but I didn't start that until a couple years ago. Some prime carnage went to the scrap yard over the years. Shit, I consider it art, now

1badb2 · 04-24-2012, 10:10 PM

I ran warn crapiums in my 60 for while, and wheeled some hard shit and they never broke. I went with the RPM offroad slugs and have been happy with them. My truggy has full hydro and is offroad only, but sometimes when I have to move it around the slugs have been a PITA. That being said, as long as you have a beefy set of snap ring pliers and a 1/4 allen socket it only takes about 2 minutes per side to pull the slugs out and put covers back on.....

bansheebeater · 04-25-2012, 03:07 AM

any road use at all and you will want the lockout. isnt mile marker or someone making fully machined hubs not like the pot metal junk that all warns are made of?

FbOmRxD · 04-25-2012, 06:06 AM

What stubs are you going with? I need to put this on my "to do" list

My hubs are bashed in and don't even unlock....I'd stick to slugs if it was up to me

Stranger ranger · 04-25-2012, 09:41 AM

Probably going with east coast gear supply package deal, with non-greaseable joints for 495 shipped. Seems to be the most cost effective deal I've found so far.

pennsylvaniaboy · 04-25-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stranger ranger

Probably going with east coast gear supply package deal, with non-greaseable joints for 495 shipped. Seems to be the most cost effective deal I've found so far.

Also seems like a great deal to me as well. Are they machined for the Full circle clips?

onetonbb74 · 04-25-2012, 10:25 AM

yes machined for full circle clips, just got a set but you have to order them separately.

pennsylvaniaboy · 04-25-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by onetonbb74

yes machined for full circle clips, just got a set but you have to order them separately.

The clips? or shafts?

Stranger ranger · 04-25-2012, 02:16 PM

Yes please do explain.

jtglowniak · 04-25-2012, 09:28 PM

i ran slugs on my shit for a month or two while it was the only vehicle i had to dd. never had a problem. just made sure to keep everything greased up.

Montymbad · 05-03-2012, 08:53 PM

My choice when I get the 35sp outers is the 300M upgrade for the warns.

/forum/axles-tires-wheels/979590-dana-60-35-spline-warn-lockout-300m-hub-gears-now-available.html

Looks like the best of both worlds, not quite as strong as slugs but still pretty damn nice!
Monty

welndmn · 05-04-2012, 10:00 AM

If your front end does not wobble and can handle the added stress on the street, run slugs.

BACRAKR · 05-04-2012, 03:19 PM

I run hubs on my truck. Haven't broke them. If the truck doesn't really get used for anything but offroad there is no need for anything but slugs tho.

fordtrucknut77 · 05-06-2012, 12:38 PM

slugs and a front spool on any asphalt at all aint happening...period...not at all...ask me how i know

otherwise if your running a locker or open diff go with the slugs all day.

04-24-2012, 07:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Stranger ranger Always Busted Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99058 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 753	slugs or hubs? So im getting ready to buy some 35 spline stubbys and can't decide on whether I should get drive flanges or lockouts. I know the flanges are stronger but being able to actually unlock them still would be nice. Truck will see very minimal road time so I don't know. What do you guys run? __________________ Fawk yea, redline that shit

04-24-2012, 07:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 2,025	Alot of it depends on how you wheel. Hubs break alot...I run Yukon drive flanges. __________________ Project Ol' Skool '37 Chevy: /forum/ford/1049898-project-old-skool.html 1979 F-350 build: /forum/ford/855113-79-f-150-build.html

04-24-2012, 07:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
Stranger ranger Always Busted Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99058 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 753	Yea pro I know u got some horses under that hood of yours too. With that said slugs are cheaper so I guess it all depends on how thrifty im feeling at time of order. __________________ Fawk yea, redline that shit

04-24-2012, 07:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
loveshackle Rock God Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9925 Location: Big Bear, CA Posts: 1,448	I keep hubs because I can swap it out quick & think of it as the easiest to replace "fuse" in the system. That said, I always run too big of meats for the axles according to everyone here & rarely break stuff. Pro would say I'm a pansy. Well, that's not the word he'd use. "As slow as possible, as fast as necessary" __________________ ---------- "All great change in America begins at the dinner table" ~ Ronald Reagan

04-24-2012, 09:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bray D Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 100050 Location: Manito, IL Posts: 831	Chromo D44. 35's. Doubler. Easy to replace though, and as I see a lot of street time, I'll probably stick with lockouts for a while. Offroad only I'd probably run slugs. edit: 35spl 60 lockouts may be stronger. I only have experience with 44 stuff so that's all I can speak to. __________________ 96 Ranger-2012 4WOR Ultimate Adventure Invited Reader Last edited by Bray D; 04-24-2012 at 09:27 PM.

04-24-2012, 08:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
RANGERROD Ajs biggest fan!! Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 172656 Location: st helens or Posts: 1,011	Here's a thread for you /forum/general-4x4-discussion/925510-spicer-d60-hub-lockout-reproductions-why-has-nobody-done-yet.html

04-24-2012, 10:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
1badb2 IDIot Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44595 Location: Denvergrad Posts: 1,145	I ran warn crapiums in my 60 for while, and wheeled some hard shit and they never broke. I went with the RPM offroad slugs and have been happy with them. My truggy has full hydro and is offroad only, but sometimes when I have to move it around the slugs have been a PITA. That being said, as long as you have a beefy set of snap ring pliers and a 1/4 allen socket it only takes about 2 minutes per side to pull the slugs out and put covers back on..... __________________ Rats get fat, while brave men die. Spare parts? If you're shooting your weapon to failure, it means you're really good to have stayed alive through that much combat. You're not fucked, You're just down a weapon, go get another off of one of the many dead bodies you created

04-25-2012, 03:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
bansheebeater Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100417 Posts: 20	any road use at all and you will want the lockout. isnt mile marker or someone making fully machined hubs not like the pot metal junk that all warns are made of? __________________ 1984 one ton one fitty shortbox holley projection 302 w/ ZF5 , 35" MTRs

04-25-2012, 06:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
FbOmRxD Granite Guru Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 54585 Location: Portsmouth NH Posts: 860	What stubs are you going with? I need to put this on my "to do" list My hubs are bashed in and don't even unlock....I'd stick to slugs if it was up to me __________________ 94 Ranger-1 tons, 5.38s, linked, 1354/dana 20 doubler, caged, hydro, 4D's, and always breaking Tow rig: 99 F250 PSD, 6-speed, South Bend Clutch, 38R, Swamps 176 Single shots, Gearhead tunes, Airdog 150, water/meth, on 37's DD: 01.5 S4 Avant....stock for now

04-25-2012, 09:41 AM	#16 (permalink)
Stranger ranger Always Busted Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99058 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 753	Probably going with east coast gear supply package deal, with non-greaseable joints for 495 shipped. Seems to be the most cost effective deal I've found so far. __________________ Fawk yea, redline that shit

04-25-2012, 10:25 AM	#18 (permalink)
onetonbb74 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52039 Location: San Jose Posts: 244	yes machined for full circle clips, just got a set but you have to order them separately. __________________ [COLOR="Orange"]Wheeler:[/COLOR] 89 k5 350-700-241-60-14-5.38's-38 tsl...

04-25-2012, 02:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
Stranger ranger Always Busted Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99058 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 753	Yes please do explain. __________________ Fawk yea, redline that shit

04-25-2012, 09:28 PM	#21 (permalink)
jtglowniak Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2011 Member # 180110 Location: foster city, ca Posts: 152	i ran slugs on my shit for a month or two while it was the only vehicle i had to dd. never had a problem. just made sure to keep everything greased up. __________________ '96 bronco.351.e4od Selling/trading(still on bronco): arb's hp d44 & 8.8 w/513s f&r..6" lift(rear has lift leafs&2" blocks. Looking for: cage work, 2.5 coilovers, 39.5 x17 pbr's

05-03-2012, 08:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
Montymbad Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25089 Location: Fort St. James (aka norht of hell), BC Posts: 36	My choice when I get the 35sp outers is the 300M upgrade for the warns. /forum/axles-tires-wheels/979590-dana-60-35-spline-warn-lockout-300m-hub-gears-now-available.html Looks like the best of both worlds, not quite as strong as slugs but still pretty damn nice! Monty __________________ I would rather be quiet and look stupid than open my big fat mouth and remove all doubt

05-04-2012, 10:00 AM	#23 (permalink)
welndmn Well Done Man! Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 398 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 17,433 Blog Entries: 3	If your front end does not wobble and can handle the added stress on the street, run slugs. __________________ Mark 71 Bronco. 42's and bolt on goats. 47' CJ2a, 302, C4, 33's. 2012, year of the flat fender.

05-04-2012, 03:19 PM	#24 (permalink)
BACRAKR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 128169 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 250	I run hubs on my truck. Haven't broke them. If the truck doesn't really get used for anything but offroad there is no need for anything but slugs tho. __________________ Old Ford Turd Pickup

05-06-2012, 12:38 PM	#25 (permalink)
fordtrucknut77 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Member # 178499 Location: good ol beford va Posts: 571	slugs and a front spool on any asphalt at all aint happening...period...not at all...ask me how i know otherwise if your running a locker or open diff go with the slugs all day.

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