9"-sterling hybrid axle question - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

joefab · 06-07-2012, 08:30 AM

would like to take a 9" housing and third. remove shafts and axle ends. then take a sterling 10.25" semi float (8 lug) remove those ends and axles and install on the 9" housing. this gives me 35 spline and eight lug. obviosly i am being a cheap sob here but will it work? something obvious that i am missing?

thanks

Blase · 06-07-2012, 08:52 AM

They make a 10.25 Seni Float?? I thought all of those were full floaters.

Can you post up some pictures of the Sterling? I'd like to see what the Semi Floater axles look like.

FordX4-offroad · 06-07-2012, 09:25 AM

ive seen the sterling 9.75" semi float, but never a 10.25 semifloat...

then again i have not been around vehicles that long

82F100SWB · 06-07-2012, 09:36 AM

The semi float 10.25 is relatively uncommon, but under 8500gvwr F250's from 85-96 could be had with them. The last one I saw was a 92 5.0/5 speed 2wd F250

joefab · 06-07-2012, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 82F100SWB

The semi float 10.25 is relatively uncommon, but under 8500gvwr F250's from 85-96 could be had with them. The last one I saw was a 92 5.0/5 speed 2wd F250

this was my understanding as well. i have a wrecker here on town that has alot of fords in the yard. i am 99% sure I have seen thos axle there. is it a c clip axle? aside from 35 spline and eight lug dont know much about them.

thanks again

82F100SWB · 06-07-2012, 03:11 PM

Yes, it is a C-clip axle.

redpitbull44 · 06-07-2012, 09:41 PM

If I were gonna go through the trouble I would want full float outers.

Pt_Ranger_V8 · 06-08-2012, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by redpitbull44

If I were gonna go through the trouble I would want full float outers.

If I were go through all that trouble, I'd just swap in a 10.25 and weld it.

I'm pretty sure the 10.25 shafts are gonna be longer than the 9" shafts.

Mh4Runner · 06-08-2012, 05:05 AM

How are you going to get the c-clips on?

zuzich26 · 06-08-2012, 07:52 AM

you might run into a problem with the spline pressure angles too, as far as i know the most sterling are 45* and most 35sp. 9" carrier/lockers are 30*, i may be wrong but something to look at.

redpitbull44 · 06-08-2012, 08:08 AM

Shafts being too long is a plus. They can be shortened and re-splined. If it were converted to full float, c-clips would not be needed.

Mh4Runner · 06-08-2012, 09:13 AM

OP said semi-float, it made me laugh out loud.

welndmn · 06-08-2012, 10:18 AM

The expensive part of a 35 spline 9 inch is the center section anyway.
What's your goal, there are cheaper ways to do everything.

ydocnitsua6705 · 06-08-2012, 07:12 PM

I got a 10.25 SF in the rear of my truck came out of an 88 250 351W C6 truck. I welded the spider gears together and then just got a piece of 1/4 plate and cut a few knotches in it for the teeth and welded it in on one side so i could still get he c-clips in.

Has held up fine so far, only got a 300 I6 with 40s though

jeeps4fun · 06-08-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ydocnitsua6705

I got a 10.25 SF in the rear of my truck came out of an 88 250 351W C6 truck. I welded the spider gears together and then just got a piece of 1/4 plate and cut a few knotches in it for the teeth and welded it in on one side so i could still get he c-clips in.

I think 4Runner was saying, "how is the OP gonna get C clips in if he did the hybrid axle. On the 9 the 3rd member goes in before the shafts, hence no way to install Clips

ydocnitsua6705 · 06-08-2012, 09:43 PM

True True didnt think of it that way my mistake

Valley Rock · 06-08-2012, 10:23 PM

Why would you not want full floaters ?

Valley Rock · 06-08-2012, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welndmn

The expensive part of a 35 spline 9 inch is the center section anyway.
What's your goal, there are cheaper ways to do everything.

I know this aint my thread, but I personally would love to hear the alternatives ? I love to learn new things . Its a hobby .

-Nathan- · 06-09-2012, 12:25 PM

its been done with ff outers. badass. machined 10.25 side gears to fit in 9" carrier then welded up the chunk.

not mine, just to be clear.

billybob_81067 · 06-09-2012, 01:01 PM

So what's the advantage with this setup? More ground clearance under the pumpkin?

Mh4Runner · 06-09-2012, 01:05 PM

I guess I don't understand why it would be "badass"? It seems like a ton of work/money for very little gain of ground clearance and weight savings.

I am really curious how they welded the axle so it was concentric one end to the other. The 10.25/10.5 I have worked with always have a left hand threaded spindle on the driver side. It would be cool to get a full float jig for a left hand thread. I am guessing that they got it just close enough. Is there a build thread for that?

Halogrinder · 06-09-2012, 01:22 PM

duh- this is simple

2 1" drain plugs in the back of the diff to put the c clips in via magnet

and the 9" housing im assuming is gonna have to be beefed up as well (flex)

cdawall · 06-09-2012, 08:35 PM

Cheap way would be D60U axle, D70 gears, and 35 spline shafts. Same strength, same ground clearance, oem parts.

redpitbull44 · 06-10-2012, 08:52 AM

The only true advantage I can see is the quick change capability for the gears. Having full float outers would make that go even quicker. You would need the same kinda thing for the front, but pulling front shafts is not that quick.

250Krawler · 06-10-2012, 06:35 PM

Start Here I don't see much of a point unless run high pinion but looks cool....

06-07-2012, 08:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
joefab Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 81455 Location: Grass Valley, CA Posts: 245	9"-sterling hybrid axle question would like to take a 9" housing and third. remove shafts and axle ends. then take a sterling 10.25" semi float (8 lug) remove those ends and axles and install on the 9" housing. this gives me 35 spline and eight lug. obviosly i am being a cheap sob here but will it work? something obvious that i am missing? thanks

06-07-2012, 09:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
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06-07-2012, 09:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
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06-08-2012, 05:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mh4Runner Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46175 Location: Darien Center, NY Posts: 2,998	How are you going to get the c-clips on? __________________ USED and NEW 4x4 PARTS - (716) 984-8715 8-5pm EST Specializing in Axles and Transfercases

06-07-2012, 09:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
redpitbull44 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68844 Location: IN cider Posts: 3,643	If I were gonna go through the trouble I would want full float outers.

06-08-2012, 07:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
zuzich26 Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Member # 219497 Location: Valparaiso, IN Posts: 38	you might run into a problem with the spline pressure angles too, as far as i know the most sterling are 45* and most 35sp. 9" carrier/lockers are 30*, i may be wrong but something to look at.

06-08-2012, 08:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
redpitbull44 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68844 Location: IN cider Posts: 3,643	Shafts being too long is a plus. They can be shortened and re-splined. If it were converted to full float, c-clips would not be needed.

06-08-2012, 09:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mh4Runner Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46175 Location: Darien Center, NY Posts: 2,998	OP said semi-float, it made me laugh out loud. __________________ USED and NEW 4x4 PARTS - (716) 984-8715 8-5pm EST Specializing in Axles and Transfercases

06-08-2012, 10:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
welndmn Well Done Man! Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 398 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 17,434 Blog Entries: 3	The expensive part of a 35 spline 9 inch is the center section anyway. What's your goal, there are cheaper ways to do everything. __________________ Mark 71 Bronco. 42's and bolt on goats. 47' CJ2a, 302, C4, 33's. 2012, year of the flat fender.

06-08-2012, 07:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
ydocnitsua6705 Wheeler Join Date: Nov 2008 Member # 123702 Location: Virginia Posts: 105	I got a 10.25 SF in the rear of my truck came out of an 88 250 351W C6 truck. I welded the spider gears together and then just got a piece of 1/4 plate and cut a few knotches in it for the teeth and welded it in on one side so i could still get he c-clips in. Has held up fine so far, only got a 300 I6 with 40s though __________________ 83 F-250 300 4spd Welded 40" Gateways 77 F-250 Super Cab Future Tow Rig Ford 300 I6 = Greatest Motor Ford EVER Made

06-08-2012, 09:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
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Valley Rock Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2012 Member # 208306 Location: Nowhere special Posts: 417	Why would you not want full floaters ?

06-09-2012, 12:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
-Nathan- Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Member # 147542 Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 35	its been done with ff outers. badass. machined 10.25 side gears to fit in 9" carrier then welded up the chunk. not mine, just to be clear.

06-09-2012, 01:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
billybob_81067 Granite Guru Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52387 Location: Rocky Ford, Colorado Posts: 889	So what's the advantage with this setup? More ground clearance under the pumpkin?

06-09-2012, 01:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
Mh4Runner Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46175 Location: Darien Center, NY Posts: 2,998	I guess I don't understand why it would be "badass"? It seems like a ton of work/money for very little gain of ground clearance and weight savings. I am really curious how they welded the axle so it was concentric one end to the other. The 10.25/10.5 I have worked with always have a left hand threaded spindle on the driver side. It would be cool to get a full float jig for a left hand thread. I am guessing that they got it just close enough. Is there a build thread for that? __________________ USED and NEW 4x4 PARTS - (716) 984-8715 8-5pm EST Specializing in Axles and Transfercases

06-09-2012, 01:22 PM	#22 (permalink)
Halogrinder Moderhater Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16980 Location: h-town Posts: 11,303	duh- this is simple 2 1" drain plugs in the back of the diff to put the c clips in via magnet and the 9" housing im assuming is gonna have to be beefed up as well (flex) __________________ Im your BMW huckleberry https://www.facebook.com/BMWdoctor can you do me a favor and like/share my page? If you like/share, you get free washes/discounts/other neat stuff for you car! gun facts that will blow your mind: http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-fa...6_1_screen.pdf

06-09-2012, 08:35 PM	#23 (permalink)
cdawall finally rightside up Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 184361 Location: EAFB, SD Posts: 716	Cheap way would be D60U axle, D70 gears, and 35 spline shafts. Same strength, same ground clearance, oem parts. __________________ '05 Ranger Edge SAS'd, 5.38's, D60/D60U, 38.5" TSL SX's, build thread...

06-10-2012, 08:52 AM	#24 (permalink)
redpitbull44 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68844 Location: IN cider Posts: 3,643	The only true advantage I can see is the quick change capability for the gears. Having full float outers would make that go even quicker. You would need the same kinda thing for the front, but pulling front shafts is not that quick.

06-10-2012, 06:35 PM	#25 (permalink)
250Krawler Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Member # 138794 Location: Pageland SC Posts: 60	Start Here I don't see much of a point unless run high pinion but looks cool....

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