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Rockcrawler_101 · 03-09-2003, 09:24 PM

I got a power steering setup from a 74 f 100 with the hydrolic ram. I put the axle under my BII and ran performance steering with my stock box and pump (302) I was wondering if i could build up some mounts and use this ram instead of going out and buying a compleatly new one? Or is this one just junk and i shouldnt waste my time? I would get the box fitted by west texs offroad probly. so would i just have to run some High pressure hose down to it and i should work just like a normal ram. so i dont have to have that stupid sensor on the steering thats on the stock setup? Thanks

JeepJake · 03-10-2003, 11:45 AM

I have recently built a soely hydraulic steering system for my jeep using components from a Yale forklift. I see no reason why the cylinder you have will not work, in fact I used it as an option for quite some time, until I decided that i wanted to go completly hydraulic. the only thing to be concerned with is actual steering force that the hydraulic assist will deliver. Asuming the actuator has a piston area of aproximatly one square inch, and the power steering pump you have will deliver about 1200 to 1500 psi working pressure, you should see approximatly 1200-1500 punds of force at the steering end of your cylinder, neglecting pressure losses due to plumbing. In addition to the power steering box assistance you already have, this system should be more than adequate for any rig.

welndmn · 03-10-2003, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Rockcrawler_101
I got a power steering setup from a 74 f 100 with the hydrolic ram. I put the axle under my BII and ran performance steering with my stock box and pump (302) I was wondering if i could build up some mounts and use this ram instead of going out and buying a compleatly new one? Or is this one just junk and i shouldnt waste my time? I would get the box fitted by west texs offroad probly. so would i just have to run some High pressure hose down to it and i should work just like a normal ram. so i dont have to have that stupid sensor on the steering thats on the stock setup? Thanks

Its junk

emsoffroad · 03-10-2003, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by welndmn

Its junk

what he said!

They are not worth swaping into anything.

Rockcrawler_101 · 03-10-2003, 11:01 PM

just wondering why the ram is junk. not saying it isnt junk just want to know why? Thanks

davids78bronco · 03-13-2003, 07:26 PM

They're known to leak from the factory. It was a good idea that didn't work

AZFord4x4 · 03-13-2003, 07:31 PM

not to mention when the time comes, it'd probably cost you more to get the parts to rebuild it than it would cost to buy a new ram, if you can find anything for it. Then it would probably start leaking a month later anyway.

Rockcrawler_101 · 03-15-2003, 09:44 PM

Would you think it would be ok to put this the one in i have right now and upgrade to a bigger ram later? I already have it and it didnt show any leaks from the ram but the stupid thingy on the steering rod was leaking but i wont use that becuase im getting my steering box taped. but i think im going to junk it from what you guys say. And just save my money. Thanks for the info!

03-09-2003, 09:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rockcrawler_101 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11955 Location: San Juan Bautista, CA Posts: 926	Cheap hydro steer I got a power steering setup from a 74 f 100 with the hydrolic ram. I put the axle under my BII and ran performance steering with my stock box and pump (302) I was wondering if i could build up some mounts and use this ram instead of going out and buying a compleatly new one? Or is this one just junk and i shouldnt waste my time? I would get the box fitted by west texs offroad probly. so would i just have to run some High pressure hose down to it and i should work just like a normal ram. so i dont have to have that stupid sensor on the steering thats on the stock setup? Thanks __________________ 48 willys pickup on 1 tons, 5.8L and 44's. 01 ford superduty 4x4 6 speed.

03-10-2003, 11:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
JeepJake Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17564 Location: Oregon Posts: 5	hydraulic steering I have recently built a soely hydraulic steering system for my jeep using components from a Yale forklift. I see no reason why the cylinder you have will not work, in fact I used it as an option for quite some time, until I decided that i wanted to go completly hydraulic. the only thing to be concerned with is actual steering force that the hydraulic assist will deliver. Asuming the actuator has a piston area of aproximatly one square inch, and the power steering pump you have will deliver about 1200 to 1500 psi working pressure, you should see approximatly 1200-1500 punds of force at the steering end of your cylinder, neglecting pressure losses due to plumbing. In addition to the power steering box assistance you already have, this system should be more than adequate for any rig. __________________ '51 CJ3A,Ford 302, C4 w/manual valvebody, dana-18 t-case, ford 9" rear, Dana 44 High pinion front 5.13 gears, spooled front/rear, 37X13 Boggers, Full hydraulic steering Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool!!!

03-10-2003, 11:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rockcrawler_101 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11955 Location: San Juan Bautista, CA Posts: 926	just wondering why the ram is junk. not saying it isnt junk just want to know why? Thanks __________________ 48 willys pickup on 1 tons, 5.8L and 44's. 01 ford superduty 4x4 6 speed.

03-13-2003, 07:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
davids78bronco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5168 Location: Central Oregon Posts: 108	They're known to leak from the factory. It was a good idea that didn't work __________________ 2- '78 Broncos, and a '79

03-13-2003, 07:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
AZFord4x4 Ford Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 421 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 3,093	not to mention when the time comes, it'd probably cost you more to get the parts to rebuild it than it would cost to buy a new ram, if you can find anything for it. Then it would probably start leaking a month later anyway. __________________ 76 F250 Supercab 2wd, undergoing Cummins/ZF5/D80 swap 78 F250 Supercab, 60/70 Doubler & dry rotted 42" TSLs. Waiting yet another rebuild. 3 more 70s supercabs, because you can never have too many spare parts around...

03-15-2003, 09:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rockcrawler_101 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11955 Location: San Juan Bautista, CA Posts: 926	Would you think it would be ok to put this the one in i have right now and upgrade to a bigger ram later? I already have it and it didnt show any leaks from the ram but the stupid thingy on the steering rod was leaking but i wont use that becuase im getting my steering box taped. but i think im going to junk it from what you guys say. And just save my money. Thanks for the info! __________________ 48 willys pickup on 1 tons, 5.8L and 44's. 01 ford superduty 4x4 6 speed.

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