Have a couple of questions... - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Snotty · 10-03-2001, 11:01 AM

Okay, the time has come for me to get rid of my TJ. She has been a great ride, but I am coming across a deal I can't pass up and now I am looking for a Classic Bronco. So I have some questions.

Did the older Broncos ever come with the 351C

Which auto Transmission, C-4/C-6?

Which T-case, I have heard many things.

Which years for power steering?

Which years come with the D44 if ever?

Did they come with a different rear end other the the 9" and if they did, was the motor the driving factor.

Thanks, I am hoping to go shopping soon...

coyote11 · 10-03-2001, 01:23 PM

go here http://www.lonestar-ebc.com/ look in the TECH section, under how to buy an early bronco, it has the history of them throughout the years. 351=no C4's I believe (I'm going with AOD) T-case=Dana20 all years (T and J pattern, the article may mention the year change over Power steering see article (?) Dana44 71 up, disks in later years (76-77 ?, check article) Always 9 inch, a little stronger in 76-77

[ 10-03-2001: Message edited by: coyote11 ]

Gordon · 10-03-2001, 02:35 PM

74 on the power steering and also auto trans availability

lttlbddy · 10-03-2001, 03:25 PM

D44 up front was actually 71 1/2, so you will find both on 71s.

Steve G

Snotty · 10-03-2001, 03:42 PM

After reading the info, thanks for the link above, I am going to look for a `77 in as near to stock condition as possible. Has anyone ever put a 351C with a C-6 in an EB? Will the t-case handle it oid you have to upgrade that too? Hell, will the D20 work on a C-6? Otherwise I could AII it...

Thanks for the info guys...

Kevbo · 10-04-2001, 09:51 AM

Why are you stuck on the Cleaveland engine for an off-road application?

Yes, they will rev higher and make more horsepower in racing or marine applications, but the Windsor has tougher bottom end, and will make as much low end torque as the Cleavland, you just can't wind them up as high due to the large (3") mains.

If you want a smooth idle and good low end response for rock crawling, etc, then you are going to have a modest cam, and with such a Cleaveland is not going to have a power advantage over a Windsor anyway.

Just food for thought, what does a diesel guy know anyway?

-Kevin

10-03-2001, 11:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
Snotty Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1598 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 135	Have a couple of questions... Okay, the time has come for me to get rid of my TJ. She has been a great ride, but I am coming across a deal I can't pass up and now I am looking for a Classic Bronco. So I have some questions. Did the older Broncos ever come with the 351C Which auto Transmission, C-4/C-6? Which T-case, I have heard many things. Which years for power steering? Which years come with the D44 if ever? Did they come with a different rear end other the the 9" and if they did, was the motor the driving factor. Thanks, I am hoping to go shopping soon... __________________ I am multi-tasking! I'm typing and pissing you off at the same time!

10-03-2001, 01:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
coyote11 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2269 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 244	go here http://www.lonestar-ebc.com/ look in the TECH section, under how to buy an early bronco, it has the history of them throughout the years. 351=no C4's I believe (I'm going with AOD) T-case=Dana20 all years (T and J pattern, the article may mention the year change over Power steering see article (?) Dana44 71 up, disks in later years (76-77 ?, check article) Always 9 inch, a little stronger in 76-77 [ 10-03-2001: Message edited by: coyote11 ] __________________ '69 bronco, SEFI, Dana60's, blah blah blah. I like it. Pimp? Bling? "Dude, look in the mirror!"

10-03-2001, 03:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
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10-03-2001, 03:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Snotty Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1598 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 135	After reading the info, thanks for the link above, I am going to look for a `77 in as near to stock condition as possible. Has anyone ever put a 351C with a C-6 in an EB? Will the t-case handle it oid you have to upgrade that too? Hell, will the D20 work on a C-6? Otherwise I could AII it... Thanks for the info guys... __________________ I am multi-tasking! I'm typing and pissing you off at the same time!

10-04-2001, 09:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kevbo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7248 Location: NM Posts: 100	Why are you stuck on the Cleaveland engine for an off-road application? Yes, they will rev higher and make more horsepower in racing or marine applications, but the Windsor has tougher bottom end, and will make as much low end torque as the Cleavland, you just can't wind them up as high due to the large (3") mains. If you want a smooth idle and good low end response for rock crawling, etc, then you are going to have a modest cam, and with such a Cleaveland is not going to have a power advantage over a Windsor anyway. Just food for thought, what does a diesel guy know anyway? -Kevin __________________ -KF-

10-03-2001, 02:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gordon Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 929 Location: Santa Rosa, Ca USA Posts: 2,825	74 on the power steering and also auto trans availability

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