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Old 11-23-2003, 06:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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460 stroker?

What is the most affordable method of stroking a 460? I would like to get 514-521 cubic inches out of it.
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Buy a stroker kit from PAW and do all the work yourself would be the cheapest.
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Old 11-26-2003, 12:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't know about the most affordable method but if you go 514 or 521 you will have one helluva overbore (.120) IIRC and you will need to have the block sonic tested for casting flaws before doing this. Just go 495 (.060 and BBC rods) and you will have a very nice BB Ford on your hands.

Try www.speedomotive.com and look at there stroker kits and engines. I bought a 495 from them and was quite pleased with it's performance. They can build the 521 if you want.

Hey Norm (Pln BaLL) You wanna chime in here?
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hey steve, look what you started.

i got a 460 in there too. where do you find the info on stuff like which BBC rods to use and would there be a special piston needed? i want to start building a 460 or bigger soon. i have an 87 block now and i have some d0ve heads. what can i wring out of it and manage to keep the CR low enough for cheap pump gas?
steve, what are you doing in that pick on your avatar? you got a superford site or pics of your rig?

i have seen kits for strokers & stuff in catalogs from summit, PAW, & other auto places plus on ebay. your local motor shop should be able to get a kit too pretty cheap i would think. i dont think there is a way build a stroker re-using parts in your motor is there? i have heard all different combos. 302 pistons & chevy rods was one i recall.
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in a 351 stroker kit you use 302 pistons. was that what you were thinking?
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Old 11-26-2003, 11:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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not really sure. 460 is great, but we always seem to want more. i thought it was 302 pistons, but it could be 302 rods. i want the how 2 build big blocks book and talk to the guys at the motor shops to see what i can do. strokers sound nice... but they arent cheap.
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they call it[URL=http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/detail.php?id=1445&s=8699] TRUCK [/URL]79 custom 4" lift, 460 4.10 D44 8lug/D60 the front D60 is in my yard & almost ready!! 36s are on, f350 brake upgrade, i just got my rear disc kit now ... 10.25 in the future possibly
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Lookin pretty good Ant! So I am responsible for that rig, am I?

My avatar is the last obstacle on Upper Helldorado in Moab. Took a bunch of body damage on that trail!

I just had Speed-o-motive build my stroker motor. I am not sure which BBC rods they used but it was supposed to give me a longer stroke than any of the Ford rods. They call it a long arm motor, (piston spend more time at TDC), supposed to create more torque. Pistons will depend on the rod length as to where the wrist pin hole is located blah, blah, blah. Check out the link in my previous post. They have stroker kits, complete engines etc. for just about any engine you could want.

IIRC you can check out Ford Motorsport catalogs for some big C.I. engines as well.
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its all your fault

yup, its your old 4" kit & now i got a D60 im prepping to go in. you want to hear the funny part? i havent beed able to wheel since i put in the rear 60 cause the ratios dont match. i got a detroit for the rear for cheap too. 460 & im looking at a doubler. what did you put on the bronco frame?
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Ditched the Bronco body for a 1936 (gulp, should I say it) Chevy cab! Hybrid in every sense of the word. It is still a little ways off from completion but I plan on havin it ready for Chile Challenge in Las Cruces, NM in Feb. I also picked up a kickass little Yota and have been wheelin that too.

Get that 60 in and go for the doubler and don't look back. You won't regret it.
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man thats funny, i see these Yota's in all the mags and everytime i see one cheap in the paper i want to snag it & mess with putting the D44 8 lug & a D60 rear under one. plus theres the better mileage factor. i know Yota's hold up well as is it seems, but i got these axles lying around & i want to build something. possibly get them under a bronco II or something smallish like that. get the 60 in, get the rear disc brakes on, get some rims. i was looking at a set of 20" double beadlocks & running XL's. tires are pretty cheap i hear. i need a winch too.
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Lookin pretty good Ant! So I am responsible for that rig, am I?

My avatar is the last obstacle on Upper Helldorado in Moab. Took a bunch of body damage on that trail!

I just had Speed-o-motive build my stroker motor. I am not sure which BBC rods they used but it was supposed to give me a longer stroke than any of the Ford rods. They call it a long arm motor, (piston spend more time at TDC), supposed to create more torque. Pistons will depend on the rod length as to where the wrist pin hole is located blah, blah, blah. Check out the link in my previous post. They have stroker kits, complete engines etc. for just about any engine you could want.

IIRC you can check out Ford Motorsport catalogs for some big C.I. engines as well.

What motor are you using? Ive wanting to try the 351W long rod for a long time when i rebuild my Mustangs motor. You have any problems with it? I hear having the wrist pin up into the Oil control ring isnt a good idea. Which has to happen since the rods so long. Any comments?
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Old 11-28-2003, 05:17 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I started with the 460 and went to 495 with it (probably what they are calling the 501 now). Speedomotive did the long block for me. Had absolutely no problems with it. One of the smoothest running engines I've had. You might want to check out their website for their offerings in the small block.

www.speedomotive.com
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Old 11-30-2003, 08:36 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Buy or have a machine shop offset grind your crank to 4.300 and grind the rods journals to BBC specs. Use 6.800" long BBC rods, and many piston companys have a part number for this (for example Arias 1340600). And don't go overboard with the overbore. You don't get any power from boring out your block.

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Old 11-30-2003, 09:18 AM   #14 (permalink)
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if you are gonna stroke it you may as well go all the way to a 4.5 inch crank.
Flatlander has kits fairly cheap.
385 series Fords are designed to be HUGE displacement engines.
557 is not uncommon, relatively cheap in the stock block 0.080 overbore


385 engine forum
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/85220
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