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Old 10-23-2004, 09:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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E4od planetaries in a C6

Have any of you ever done this? Are the e4od planetary sets a direct swap or is this something I would have to take my box to a tranny shop to have worked on?

Also, when swaping a 205 into the place of a BW 1356 I see where I need to modify the adapter to clear the shift rail, but I read on here once that you need to "fill a hole" in the adapter as well. I am not seeing it. If any of you could describe it a little better to me I would appreciate it.

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Old 10-23-2004, 03:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As far as the t-cases go, you need to make sure the splines match, if so you're golden.

The shift rails need to be cut in the adapter and the hole should be for the speedo cable. That is unless your cable comes from your rearend in the truck. Certain years ran a digital speedo to the pinion inside the case. The 205 also has a hole for a speedo. Just make sure you use what you need and cap off what you don't.

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Old 10-23-2004, 05:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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why dont you just spend another $30 and get the right tail housing, thats what i did. i modded my old 13-56 tailhousing to work with the 205 and didnt feel safe at all so i just bought the right one.

as for the planetary gear; i have read it will swap right in, but am not certain. i hope someon keys in because i am curious as well.
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Old 10-24-2004, 01:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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why dont you just spend another $30 and get the right tail housing, thats what i did. i modded my old 13-56 tailhousing to work with the 205 and didnt feel safe at all so i just bought the right one.

as for the planetary gear; i have read it will swap right in, but am not certain. i hope someon keys in because i am curious as well.
Where'd you get the factory adaptor? Junk yard or Ford dealership. I kind of figured ford wouldnt have them around anymore and there are very few of the c6/205's in junkyards around here.

I hope someone knows definitively too about the planetaries. I searched for an hour on here last night and didn't find anything and I have searched for a few days off and on on the net and can find nothing except shops offering to rebuild your box with the e4od forward and reverse planetaries...

Anyhow, thanks for your replys so far.

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E4OD planitaries in my c-6...look up "C6 wide ratio kits" on google and see what they put in the kits....go to the ford dealer and buy everything needed.
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I looked it up and got a prats list. This is good info, thanks. I was kind of hoping I could buy a core E4od and put this together. Looks lik eI have to get the ford kit to get all of the special needle bearings??? Do you have to have the needle bearings or can you just instal the planataries...

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E4OD wide ratio kit

You can just install the gears themselves and keep using the thrust washers in your C-6 or you can go all out and install the needle bearings if you do that then I believe there is some maching involved
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i found my tail housing off line, look in the classifieds here or at www.fordtrucks.com, thats where i got mine.
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Old 10-24-2004, 03:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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so will a used E40D transmission be a good place to find the planateries? or should they be bought new?
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:13 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info guys. I will start looking for a core e4od.

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p575, im just going to look for a cheap, used E4OD and pull it apart.
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Old 10-25-2004, 10:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have a C6 to NP205 tailhousing if you need it. PM me and we can talk. FYI it ships at 35 lbs

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so will a used E40D transmission be a good place to find the planateries? or should they be bought new?
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Depending on the core price (if any). If yer using a used set check the free play between the individual gears and the inner shaft-you don't any. Also check the ends of the gear teeth-if they are like razor sharp-they are worn-don't use.

E4OD planets will install into a C-6 for a lower 1st and 2nd, but the entire assembly must be used including the shell.
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Depending on the core price (if any). If yer using a used set check the free play between the individual gears and the inner shaft-you don't any. Also check the ends of the gear teeth-if they are like razor sharp-they are worn-don't use.

E4OD planets will install into a C-6 for a lower 1st and 2nd, but the entire assembly must be used including the shell.
I found a Core tranny at my local pick and pull for $100 yesterday. I haven't pulled it apart yet, but I will check the things you mention. They told me they'de take the trans back if the parts I needed were smoked, so I am going to come out a bit better than the $400 ford gets for the kit.

Thanks for all of the info guys.

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could that planetary gear also be called the "overdrive" planetary gear?
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Old 10-27-2004, 01:08 AM   #16 (permalink)
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It should be called a "forward Planet Assy. 6 pinion" (this is from the ford motor sports kit instructions I downloaded from their web site) Replacement part number F81Z-7A398-CA

I am by no means an expert, I was asking the question in the first place, but this is what my research shows... So, good luck

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Old 10-27-2004, 06:33 AM   #17 (permalink)
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gotcha, so this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...930784486&rd=1 would not be it then.
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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looking over all the parts on Ford Racing, is it that much cheaper to peice it together than to just buy the whole kit?
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Old 11-30-2004, 04:37 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I myself bought the kit. I found it easier than trying to find good used parts or having to order individual pieces. My first one I did piece it together with used E4OD parts, found it time consuming and not really worth the savings. That's just my opinion though, I'm kinda lazy
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hmm... i too am quite lazy. but boy $350 or whatever it is, is still a good bit of money. damn, expensive yet fun hobby.
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