12" lift coils or custom ones - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

jr4x4ee · 10-11-2001, 12:13 AM

Hello guys and gals,

I am thinking about to change the axles under my bronco to the ones Soviet
military truck have
http://legion.wplus.net/index.html?/.../tr/gaz66.html

Wheel is 42" high and the axle weights close to 500 lbs. Gear ratio of these axles is 6,88 : <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">). Oh and with these axles I get also the airing system: <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">)

OK...could anyone please tell me where I could get 12" lift coils, or who is making the custom ones? Or if anyone has those coils laying around in the garage, then let me know.

Thanks,

Gordon · 10-11-2001, 09:37 AM

be careful with the 12" lift coils. If a coil spring gets too long it can buckle. To prevent this they have to make coils that tall pretty stiff. The other way to prevent it is to mount them on a coil over shock. There are tons of shops that will make custom coils, but when they get that long you need someone who really knows what they are doing to help design them. I can't recomend anyone for that.

welndmn · 10-11-2001, 09:40 AM

National Springs is always good, but, if your going to go all out go for some coil over shocks

Dan-H · 10-12-2001, 02:56 PM

Do a Stacked coil overs.

Do a softer spring on top of a firmer spring.

Let me know if when you are driving this on the street so I can stay home that day <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

- Dan

jr4x4ee · 10-13-2001, 04:23 AM

Do a Stacked coil overs.
Do a softer spring on top of a firmer spring.

Let me know if when you are driving this on the street so I can stay home that day

- Dan

Any pics of this setup??

davids78bronco · 10-13-2001, 11:37 AM

Won't the Rockwells from a US military truck be easier, and cheaper to get? Sure, it won't have the CIS, but I can't imagine what the axles off a Soviet truck would cost ya.

Myself, I'm getting a pair of Rockwell axles, tcase, and basically stripping a truck for my Bronco. I was sposed to take off an hour and a half ago, but the guy picking me up hasn't showed up yet. To give you an idea, I'm paying 400 bucks and a couple axles for all this. I've thought about trying to use a Ford 1/2ton 6" lift for mine, but that just won't hold up, period. I would agree with the majority here, and I'd get the coil-overs, if I could afford it. Doetsch Ent was just featured in Off-Road magazine about an affordable coil-over. I'd be checking into that, if those were in my budget. As it is, the hydraulic steering for mine will probly break me

jr4x4ee · 10-13-2001, 01:20 PM

Axles from a soviet truck will cost me $100 ... that's right a $100 for both, front and rear one. I live in Estonia, thats besides the russia and here are plenty of those axles just lying around <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

jr4x4ee · 10-13-2001, 01:26 PM

Oh and hydraulic steering is already attached to the front axle by the manufacturer, so it is included in the price <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I figured I would use leafs at rear and support them with traction bars, to prevent axle wrap. Up front I am planning to use either coils or leafs. Leafs would be easy, but I would like to use coils...more flex and better ride. Of course tac bars would be an issue in any case and some beefy custom radius arms, if coils should be choosen.

jr4x4ee · 10-13-2001, 01:30 PM

Recently bought a Gaz 66 for $150, it is fully functional and operational...another one came in for $70... <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> Isn't it nice to live besides the russia <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Technically the Russian machinery costs very little...if at all.

[ 10-13-2001: Message edited by: jr4x4ee ]

Dan-H · 10-13-2001, 02:38 PM

How much to ship a set of those to CA? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

jr4x4ee · 10-13-2001, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan-H:
<STRONG>How much to ship a set of those to CA? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

I can check it up...axle weights ~600-650lbs with wheels and tires...I'll find it out and let you know.

Dan-H · 10-13-2001, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jr4x4ee:
<STRONG>I can check it up...axle weights ~600-650lbs with wheels and tires...I'll find it out and let you know.</STRONG>

You know I'm just kidding. It would be killer to be able to find really cheap monster axles just lying around.

Hell, just mail me one of them "Gaz" things <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

optiwizard · 10-18-2001, 10:01 PM

Try Valley spring in CA. I think they make Nationals coils for them. Mark

10-11-2001, 12:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
jr4x4ee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3721 Location: Estonia, Tallinn Posts: 63	12" lift coils or custom ones Hello guys and gals, I am thinking about to change the axles under my bronco to the ones Soviet military truck have http://legion.wplus.net/index.html?/.../tr/gaz66.html Wheel is 42" high and the axle weights close to 500 lbs. Gear ratio of these axles is 6,88 : <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">). Oh and with these axles I get also the airing system: <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">) OK...could anyone please tell me where I could get 12" lift coils, or who is making the custom ones? Or if anyone has those coils laying around in the garage, then let me know. Thanks, __________________ Greetings from Estonia Jaak

10-11-2001, 09:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
welndmn Well Done Man! Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 398 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 17,434 Blog Entries: 3	National Springs is always good, but, if your going to go all out go for some coil over shocks __________________ Mark 71 Bronco. 42's and bolt on goats. 47' CJ2a, 302, C4, 33's. 2012, year of the flat fender.

10-12-2001, 02:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dan-H Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 792 Location: El Dorado County CA Posts: 2,176	Do a Stacked coil overs. Do a softer spring on top of a firmer spring. Let me know if when you are driving this on the street so I can stay home that day <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> - Dan __________________ 01 TJ

10-13-2001, 04:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
jr4x4ee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3721 Location: Estonia, Tallinn Posts: 63	Do a Stacked coil overs. Do a softer spring on top of a firmer spring. Let me know if when you are driving this on the street so I can stay home that day - Dan Any pics of this setup?? __________________ Greetings from Estonia Jaak

10-13-2001, 11:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
davids78bronco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5168 Location: Central Oregon Posts: 108	Won't the Rockwells from a US military truck be easier, and cheaper to get? Sure, it won't have the CIS, but I can't imagine what the axles off a Soviet truck would cost ya. Myself, I'm getting a pair of Rockwell axles, tcase, and basically stripping a truck for my Bronco. I was sposed to take off an hour and a half ago, but the guy picking me up hasn't showed up yet. To give you an idea, I'm paying 400 bucks and a couple axles for all this. I've thought about trying to use a Ford 1/2ton 6" lift for mine, but that just won't hold up, period. I would agree with the majority here, and I'd get the coil-overs, if I could afford it. Doetsch Ent was just featured in Off-Road magazine about an affordable coil-over. I'd be checking into that, if those were in my budget. As it is, the hydraulic steering for mine will probly break me __________________ 2- '78 Broncos, and a '79

10-11-2001, 09:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gordon Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 929 Location: Santa Rosa, Ca USA Posts: 2,825	be careful with the 12" lift coils. If a coil spring gets too long it can buckle. To prevent this they have to make coils that tall pretty stiff. The other way to prevent it is to mount them on a coil over shock. There are tons of shops that will make custom coils, but when they get that long you need someone who really knows what they are doing to help design them. I can't recomend anyone for that.

10-13-2001, 01:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
jr4x4ee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3721 Location: Estonia, Tallinn Posts: 63	Axles from a soviet truck will cost me $100 ... that's right a $100 for both, front and rear one. I live in Estonia, thats besides the russia and here are plenty of those axles just lying around <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> __________________ Greetings from Estonia Jaak

10-13-2001, 01:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
jr4x4ee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3721 Location: Estonia, Tallinn Posts: 63	Oh and hydraulic steering is already attached to the front axle by the manufacturer, so it is included in the price <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> I figured I would use leafs at rear and support them with traction bars, to prevent axle wrap. Up front I am planning to use either coils or leafs. Leafs would be easy, but I would like to use coils...more flex and better ride. Of course tac bars would be an issue in any case and some beefy custom radius arms, if coils should be choosen. __________________ Greetings from Estonia Jaak

10-13-2001, 01:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
jr4x4ee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3721 Location: Estonia, Tallinn Posts: 63	Recently bought a Gaz 66 for $150, it is fully functional and operational...another one came in for $70... <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> Isn't it nice to live besides the russia <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Technically the Russian machinery costs very little...if at all. [ 10-13-2001: Message edited by: jr4x4ee ] __________________ Greetings from Estonia Jaak

10-13-2001, 02:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dan-H Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 792 Location: El Dorado County CA Posts: 2,176	How much to ship a set of those to CA? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> __________________ 01 TJ

10-18-2001, 10:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
optiwizard Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7648 Location: SouthernNewJersey Posts: 136	Try Valley spring in CA. I think they make Nationals coils for them. Mark

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