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Old 12-27-2004, 05:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ford drivetrian in my M715 jeep

hello everyone,

i need information on ford drivetrains:
i want to put a ford overdrive transmission and a ford transfercase in my '68 Kaiser Jeep M715.

transfer case: i would like to put a np205[divorced or married] with a passenger side drop.

what years and trucks if any had them?

transmission: i would like to put a ford 4-speed or 5-speed with a driverside PTO.

what years and trucks?

the M715 wieghs about 6,000# and has a front dana 60 and a rear dana 70 with 5.87 gears

for more information on the M715 check out:
http://www.m715zone.com/Pnuke/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=index

thanks brian
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No ford had passenger side drop, outta luck there. Use a SF S5-47 tranny, it's a 5 speed OD M/T, PTO plates on both side. Find a 2wd version and hook up a chevy style divorced tcase. It all depends on what you want and how much you want to spend.
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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so you joined today, and are already posting... did you have enough time to read all the rules? hmm.. not sure about that cause if you did you would know to S E A R C H there is a wealth of information all over this site. like this one H E R E all kinds of t case data. If you would have searched you would have known that.
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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rebelchevy02: back off man i was trying to get info from Ford gurus about what would hold up in my M715. would like to have a discussion with gearheads that can give me the good bad and ugly without trying to sell me sh*t or cover up the weaknesses of the parts.

fordperf351w: thanks for the info what years and trucks did that tranny come in? is there a year or model to watch out for? thanks brian
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Is going EFI an option for you?
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Old 12-28-2004, 09:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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actually if you would have clicked that link you would have found all you needed to know about the np205 that you wanted, which would tell you chevy for pass side drop, what years to find what styles and what not. and you would be better off going with a sm465 with a np205, because an sm465 is a near indestructable 4sp tranny with granny gears, and the np205 is all gear driven, which would be great for a heavy rig.. had you searched, and looked at the link i posted you would know this.
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The ZF came in late 80's and 90's f250's and f350's. It has an integral bellhousing, so you'd have to ge the one to match your motor.

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and you would be better off going with a sm465 with a np205, because an sm465 is a near indestructable 4sp tranny with granny gears,
Advantage of the ZF is it has an overdrive and a granny gear. Admittedly it isn't as strong as a SM465, but it is much more streetable and has an O/D which was on his requirement list. He probably also has a ford motor in it, which would make the 465 kinda hard to adapt.

Try reading the post and know what's going on before talking out your ass.

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actually if you would have clicked that link you would have found all you needed to know about the np205 that you wanted, which would tell you chevy for pass side drop, what years to find what styles and what not. and you would be better off going with a sm465 with a np205, because an sm465 is a near indestructable 4sp tranny with granny gears, and the np205 is all gear driven, which would be great for a heavy rig.. had you searched, and looked at the link i posted you would know this.
Damn Chevy people! You got your own forum, go to it!

If you really want to stay with those coarse splined axles that are currently under the truck here's what I would do. 460 EFI and 2wd ZF-5 with a divorced Timken 225 t-case. If you wanted to upgrade to 2.5 Rockwells which I would do, I would use an NP200.

EDIT: Oh yeah, big rear mounted radiator.

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my 715 is bone stock [230 straight six,T-98, NP200(divorced)] i like the 230 but its under powered and parts are scarce and expensive.

i have a 351 that ran good when pulled and a AMC 360 [needs rebuild], i have a limited budget for the swap, so i'm trying to figure out the best combo for a heavy truck like the M715. i am a jeep guy so i wanted advice from ford guys so i know what to keep an eye out for at the bone yards.

my 715 has a PTO driven winch that is on the driver side of the tranny and i want an overdrive for the street.

i was hoping there was a odd ball ford that had a passenger side drop transfer case, but the chevy np205 looks like my best chioce.

rockwells are a bit of overkill for what i use the 715 for, but CUCV [M1031] axles are the next swap after the drivetrain.

i am still gathering information and have not decide what to use yet, not sure if i will use one of my engines[351/360] or look for 429, 460 or a ford diesel. i cant put alot of money in the truck but i want a solid drivetrian and only want to do the swap once.

thanks for all of the advice
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the "new" chevy 205s used the standard 6 round from 86 up i believe. so all you would have to do, if i understood correctly would be swap out input shafts, and bearings from a ford 205, so you will have the right spline count, into the chevy 205. or get a 32 spline 205 from a t400, 86 and up chevy, and upgrade your tranny to a very strong 32 spline, just depends on how much $$$ you want to spend.. see im not a total asshole.
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Old 12-31-2004, 03:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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here are my thoughts so far, please post any opinions you might have on the combos.

1] AMC 360 - stock T 98 - divorced chevy NP 205

2] ford 460 - NP 435 - divorced chevy NP 205

3] ford diesel - ZF 5speed - divorced chevy NP 205

first two options have no OD but i plan on runnig 38's so that might help on the street. i want to keep the 5.87 gears and still be able to keep up with trafic on the highway. well atleast be able to stay out of the way.

i was told that there is a ford 4-speed with an overdrive, anyone know which tranny that is and what year and truck they came in?
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