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Old 03-18-2005, 09:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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EB guys - anyone running full length headers with a NP435?

http://www.jamesduff.com/eb/exhaust.html

Mine would actually be in an early scout but not too many SBF scout guys so I figured I'd see how the setup worke out in the broncos since I am running a 5.0/435.

Still deciding on exhuast but contemplating full length headers for the low end gain..

What is the frame width on an EB? Just trying to see how the setup is going to compare with mine..

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Old 03-19-2005, 07:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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We put full length headers in a 69 with a 302. You cannot mount the headers until you have the bell housing in. That is the only problem that we had. They fit right in the frame and work well.
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Old 03-19-2005, 09:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I had a set of wild horses long tube headers and the fit very well till I went fullwidth on the axles. They added a very noticable amount of low end.
Now I have some patriot clipster headers, but have only driven around the block so I can't tell you how the preform yet. The wh ones clear the clutch linkage and the clipsters required converting to hydro
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What is the frame width on an EB? Just trying to see how the setup is going to compare with mine..

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23 1/2" inner 29" outer give or take a hair.
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I had a set of wild horses long tube headers and the fit very well till I went fullwidth on the axles. They added a very noticable amount of low end.
Now I have some patriot clipster headers, but have only driven around the block so I can't tell you how the preform yet. The wh ones clear the clutch linkage and the clipsters required converting to hydro

why did the axles have anything to do with it??
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Why not shorties, unequal lenth with small tubes..........almost the same as a full lenth as far as performance and Alot more room .
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why did the axles have anything to do with it??
Well the pinion on the 60 is further to the driverside than the stock 44 was.
With the 44 the driveshaft was within a 1/4" of the exhast flange, if I remenber correctly.
Also, I went from the 20 to a 205 which I think has the front output closer to the frame than the 20 was and my high angle d-lines are larger in diameter than the little stock ones were.

I was a little pissed when I went to put the new driveshaft on after months of swapping in the new stuff, just to have to wait longer to have a shop build an undersized exhaust(1.75") and go back to stock manifolds .
sorry about the rant. My fingers were flowing.
here's the new exhast
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Be careful of Driveshaft clearance with the long tube headers. If you run full widths you will contact that header with the driveshaft on compression. NOT a fan of James Duff stuff. The WH shorties are nice headers(IIRC they are JBA), clear the clutch linkage and are a better product IMHO.
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now I'm kinda lookin at center dump headers, anyone run em? Scout has practically no room near the firewall as far as width goes.
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Dennis runs 'em w/no body lift, and I will be w/2" body lift. We both picked up ceramic coated too for heat.

Thought you were thinking auto?
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Dennis runs 'em w/no body lift, and I will be w/2" body lift. We both picked up ceramic coated too for heat.

Thought you were thinking auto?

I am, just bringing up an old thread

So your mobile? Are yours the hedman ones? Goy any pics? Mind if I swing by sometime?
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I am, just bringing up an old thread

So your mobile? Are yours the hedman ones? Goy any pics? Mind if I swing by sometime?
Sure swing on by. Headman I think w/Jet Hot. 5.0 is still on the stand just waiting for a full day to stab it. Maybe this weekend
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maybe I could con you into loaning me those headers for a couple hours one evening or something for me to test fit in trade for or something

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Almost swung by yesterday, got a buddy with a 65 bug and he couldn't get the rear drum nuts off off (or whatever they are called). I cranked my regulater to 175psi and my gun wouldn't budge em, then I broke BOTH a napa and a craftsman breaker bar! He went to les schwab and asked them and their gun wouldn't do it either! I think you got my old gun though so I didn't figure you would really have anything to do it with either.. He still hasn't gotten it off
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My only issue is the front drive shaft hits the header under articulation. No biggie though.
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My only issue is the front drive shaft hits the header under articulation. No biggie though.

you got a hp44? I do but I swapped it to pass. drop - course that just means it might hit on the other side
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My only issue is the front drive shaft hits the header under articulation. No biggie though.

mine, too
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you got a hp44? I do but I swapped it to pass. drop - course that just means it might hit on the other side
No, I have just the regular D44. I wish I had a HP44..
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Almost swung by yesterday, got a buddy with a 65 bug and he couldn't get the rear drum nuts off off (or whatever they are called)...
Find a place that sells aftermarket VW stuff and get an axle nut tool. It's a piece of plate steel that fits over the nut with a 1/2" square hole in it for a breaker bar or whatever. Only don't use a breaker bar, put it on the nut and use a BFH on it. I've never seen that not work. And yes, it needs to go back on that tight too.
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I run full length Hooker headers in my bronco with a 351W. they almost hit the frame on both sides but the clear fine. They also go up and over the clutch linkage on my NP435. I may have some pics at home if you need them.
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I run full length Hooker headers in my bronco with a 351W. they almost hit the frame on both sides but the clear fine. They also go up and over the clutch linkage on my NP435. I may have some pics at home if you need them.

I'd like to see what it looks like by the firewall, that is my biggest issue. The scout has a VERY wide frame so I don't think width will be an issue

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you want pics from the top view? Those I will have to take first. I have 2 pics of what they look like from the bottom. Give me a day or so and I will take a few from the top.
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here's a link to the pics from the bottom. 1 of each side.

http://www.rocknroll4x4.com/forums/i...=headers&st=20
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