60s 429 ID

[F0rdFre@k]

I'm considering picking up a 60s 429 from Vancouver WA. I'm most likely going to have to have it stored for a while in Portland OR. So, before I'm going to offer any $$$ for it. I'd like to know exactly what I'm getting.

What should I be inquiring about from the seller? Is there an ID tag on the block that'll tell me what's inside? What year 429 it is? Anything and everything will be helpful and greatly appreciated...

Thanks in advance...

[LeviGarrett76]

look on the heads between the middle two exhaust ports, and below the valve cover...there shoudl be something that starst with a c, or a d like c9ve, or d0ve, and look for the same thing on the block, about where the start mounts, righ tbehind it

[AllGoNoShow]

That would probably be a very desireable motor if you are going to use it to build a high performance engine...but if you want it as a DD you will probably be dissapointed because it will have something like 10.5/11 to 1 compression and isnt goin to run on pump gas. The heads can built to make some serious horsepower.

[TurdBronco]

If you use it stock, you can run premium with the timing backed off a lil bit. You'll also have to run a lead additive.
I had one in a trail truck. Sucked.

[LeviGarrett76]

and if the heads have been redone recently you shouldnt have to run lead additive,

i ran an old worn out stock d0ve 429 with 10.5:1 and it did fine, i jsut had to run 93 and back the timing off like stated above. IT ran great other than that

[blown4x4]

of what casting numbers they are like C9's C8's or if your really lucky the DoOR's. Any of these heads can be ported to make at least 700 dyno proven horespower. The DoOrs will make a littl more.

[BUZZISCRAZY2]

To find out if they are 429 CJ & SCJ, if you remove the bottom center bolts on the valve covers and the holes go through to the exaust ports ( stick a piece of wire through ) then they are indeed CJ or SCJ. Even the non CJ heads 68'-72' are still healthy with 2.08 intake and 1.65 exaust valve sizes.

As said the 2 barrel motors had 10.5:1, and 4 barrels had 11.0:1. Ask for the numbers and or letters and we can tell ya what ya got.

Either way, Enjoy.....

[F0rdFre@k]

Thanks a bunch guys...

I'm building a 300+/- HP 351W for my 71 Bronco. This engine will sit for a few years until I find a donor 69 Fastback Mustang to put it in. I really like the price of $100.00. But, with the engine being just over 1400 miles away, it's hard for me to verify anything myself. I'll probably have either my brother in law store it for a while or my wifes uncle. Both of which are in the Portland OR area. I can't trust my BIL to know how to tell what the carburator is compared to the oil pan on the bottom of the engine.

HMMM We'll have to see...

[F0rdFre@k]

OK... I got a little more detail on this 429 is a 69 block. #s on the block read C9VE-B and the #s on the heads read C9VE-A. Does that help my case any?

[blown4x4]

Those are a good casting of heads. I'm running a set of c9's on my 514 and its making well over 500hp

[BUZZISCRAZY2]

Bitchin !! That is a 70' 429 Cobra Jet..........It doesn't get much better than that.

[AllGoNoShow]

That isnt a cobra jet engine...it is a regular 429 out of a 69 lincoln...C=60's era, 9=year, ve=lincoln. Good engine for performance but is not a cobra jet.

[AllGoNoShow]

That is not a cobra jet engine. c=60's era, 9=year, ve=lincoln. That is a 69 429 out of a lincoln. Cobra jets never came in lincolns. Good engine for performance still but not a cobra jet.

[LeviGarrett76]

the regular 429/460's were called "thunderjet", maybe you got confused with thunderjet and cobrajets??

i know cobrajet heads are something like D0oe

[AllGoNoShow]

The thunderjet 429's only came from thunderbirds hence called thunderjets. It is just a regular 429 engine out of a lincoln. However you are right about the cobra jet engines being Dooe

[BUZZISCRAZY2]

Originally Posted by AllGoNoShow

That isnt a cobra jet engine...it is a regular 429 out of a 69 lincoln...C=60's era, 9=year, ve=lincoln. Good engine for performance but is not a cobra jet.

The C9VE-A heads have 2.24 intakes in them, they are CJ's

[AllGoNoShow]

That IS NOT a cobra jet...quit posting bullshit info that is why you dont visit FTE anymore.

[AllGoNoShow]

those heads and motor are out of a lincoln...hmm did lincolns ever have cobra jet engines? no they didnt...end of story

[BUZZISCRAZY2]

Originally Posted by AllGoNoShow

That IS NOT a cobra jet...quit posting bullshit info that is why you dont visit FTE anymore.

Quit posting bullshit ??The HP Book I have in front of me gives the following casting numbers for CJ & SCJ

DOAE-H
C9VE-A
DOOE


As far as FTE Never once did I post bullshit over there either.
If you'll check back a few pages on here you'll see I wasn't the only one who thinks FTE SUCKS !!

[BUZZISCRAZY2]

Originally Posted by AllGoNoShow

those heads and motor are out of a lincoln...hmm did lincolns ever have cobra jet engines? no they didnt...end of story

I really don't give a fuck what they came out of, C9VE-A has 2.24 intake valves and 1.72 exaust valves STOCK !! The only heads Ford made with thoses sizes were CJ & SCJ, you better go back to playing with chevys......or break your crack pipe

[Skedar2]

Originally Posted by BUZZISCRAZY2

The C9VE-A heads have 2.24 intakes in them, they are CJ's

Umm the three sets of c9ve-a heads I have rebuilt all had 2.08 intake and 1.65 exhaust

Any noob can search the net to to prove it, here is what one of the best bbf head rebuilders I could find had to say on the matter


"The most common carbureted head casting numbers are: C8VE-A, C9VE-E, D0VE-A, D0VE-C, and D3VE-A2A.

All the above heads have 2.08 intake valves and 1.65 exhaust valves.

C8VE-A, C9VE-E, D0VE-A, & D0VE-C all have identical architechure, are completely interchangable and have 75-77cc combustion chambers. These are the most popular factory heads for performance applications.

D3VE-A2A's have a 96cc combustion chamber and a different valge train assembly that is not interchangable between it and the other heads. They can be made to work well but require more prepping.

Ther is also the D0OE-R Cobra jet heads (nice but rare) wich have a 2.24 intake valve, and the D2VE-AA heads (JUNK)."

[F0rdFre@k]

Either way.. it sounds like it should be well worth $100.00 for me. My plan is to build a 69 Mustang and get it to 700/800 HP so I can "play". I have always wanted a sweet car. After I'm "done" with my Bronco, it's time for a Mustang project...

[blown4x4]

Someone could have put them in there at one time but when I got mine they were already in there Ported the C9's and other similar heads can flow just about the same as CJ's

P.S. I pulled these heads off a junkyard motor.

[AllGoNoShow]

buzz shut the fuck up and quit posting bullshit...everyone here has agreed except for you...heads are not the only thing that makes a cobra jet a cobra jet like cam, carb, forged rods, intake/exhaust port sizes (which you were wrong about ya dipshit), nickle content of block and so on.

[Skedar2]

There is alot of misinformation printed about these heads. Anyone getting there info from a Tom Munroe book (there are others too) will tell you c9ve-e heads are 2.24 intakes and cobra jet heads. This is jus a plain misprint in Tom Munroes early books,that seem to spread like wildfire, anyone who has actually pulled apart a c9ve-e head will tell you it is not a 2.24 intake. The "ve" stands for lincoln, and that alone should tell you its not a Cobra jet, no Continental I ever drove had a scj in it thats for sure.

As far as HP, take the head to a good bbf head man and theses heads will flow just as good as a D0Oe-R (scj) head. And the 2.24 intakes are easily fitted into these heads as well.