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Old 10-22-2005, 07:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Whats it worth? 93' F350 4x4, bad engine!

At work there is a 1993 F350 4x4 dually short flatbed, 7.3 diesel, manual trans. They said that they got it with this other company they bought and it smokes really bad and has no power, it just sits there. I was told that they brought it to a truck shop down the street and the guy told them it had parts in the pan, so they let it sit. I was going to talk to this guy and see if he remembers looking at it since the idiots at work usually can't remember thier own names half the time. The odometer reads 88,000 miles. They said to make an offer.
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Old 10-22-2005, 10:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try $500. You'd shit yourself if you got it for that price. It may be possible too, since it sounds like they don't know their asses from a hole in the ground.
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, 500 dollars is a good start. Start running down how much it'll cost to get moving, engine work, time, blah blah blah. It'll be Balljoint D60, but for 500 dollars we know you won't whine. =) The transmission is worth that, the front axle is worth almost double that, Diesel parts, rear axle & TC would be worth that combined, work for it. 1000 would still be alright, but who wants to pay full price!
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Old 10-23-2005, 01:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the ZF is bonarifc... I wouldnt have any other manual trans in mine. the engine will take a lot of money to get iti up to good (not great, just good) HP levels as well as getting it fixed. i dont know what parts would be in the oil pan that wouldnt matter enough so that it still ran... my guesss would be the lifter pump arm broke off and is not pumping, making the injector pump do all the work. this would mean a lack of fuel delivery, which would make it smoke white. If it is hte lift pump lever that broke off in there, you can just leave it, its not going anywhere... but you will want to replace the lifter pump and soon will need to replace the IP as it has hada lot of strain on it.

Anyways, $2000 is still a good deal. I would say $4000 is ok... engine only has 88,000 on it? thats pretty low. may just need a new fuel pump
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Old 10-23-2005, 06:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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start at $500, say thats prolly what the scrap guy would give you for it, the junkyard would give less. Dont say shit about it being worth 2k if you parted it out. start at $500.
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Old 10-26-2005, 08:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I talked to the guy that worked on this thing and he said It was a piece of a piston. He said he put a starter in it and it fired up and he drove it from the shop it was at in Sacramento to Pittsburg Ca. about a 50 mile trip. He said it ran like crap and that's when he messed with it and found the piece of piston in the pan, then my boss said his buddy said it might be the IP and he showed him the piece of piston and said the IP isn't the problem, and they had a few words that wern't so kind, so my boss took it to our shop where it now sits in the back of the yard with the other pile of crap shop trucks.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:47 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Fords only used 5 diget odo. so it could be 88,000 or 188,000 or 288,000 miles.
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What year did they change the odometer from 5 digit to 6 digit? My 92 Mustang had a 6 digit odometer. And it was a 4 popper POS. I can't imagine it being updated before the trucks?
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Old 10-27-2005, 11:59 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Oh yeah... For a NON RUNNING vehicle, it doesn't matter what Blue Book Value is. What matters is what the truck would be worth if it was running and then subtract the cost to repair the current problems to a running state.

I wouldn't give more then $800 for a non running rig. I'd start @ $500. Whomever said $4K is smoking something.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'd start at $500, at that its a hell of a deal. My 93 explorer has a 6 digit odo.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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yeah my fullsize 93 bronco and 92 f250 are dig 6 digit odo, buy it already.
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I thought a 93 would have had a digital odo wich would have been a 6 digit, no?
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Old 10-28-2005, 03:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'd go for less that $500. Those engines had cavitation problems, and if it has cavitation, than the engine isn't even really fixable without some serious money. I guess you could take the heads off, and look at it before you bought it, but I wouldn't pay $500 for it.
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Old 10-29-2005, 10:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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My 93 F-250 has a digital 6 digit odometer. The 7.3 that's in it was kind of a turd untill I put the Banks sidewinder kit on it now all my buddies that have the old and new generation powerstroke fords that have driven it say it has more power plus I get better milage than them, I pull my 4500 lb. 69 bronco and a 2000 lb. trailer no problem even up steep grades.

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Old 10-29-2005, 11:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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if its really 88000 miles (which it isnt if its already had a piston fail) then blue book would put t between $7-$9000. so if you payed $4000 for something that needed a piston and DIY rebuilt it, you wouldn't reach even $7000. therefore, 4k is still ok on paper - which is what i was saying - but not realy worth it...
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Old 10-29-2005, 04:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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the odo's are digital on that year.... and it is 6 digits... should have a 0 in front of the 8 so it should read 088000 if you could get it for $500 that would be an awesome deal, but if it were me id probably pay up to $1000 as long as the body is in good shape. and if it does have piston problems, go ahead and prepare yourself for a complete rebuild of the 7.3
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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So, whats the deal, did you score a cheap truck or what?? :P
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if it is a 93 it might be a IDI turbo. Pop the hood and check or get the VIN, the 8th number determines the motor.
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with 88k it could be a piston. I had a 91 with a 7.3L it burned a hole in the block with 69k. the 7.3L is P.O.S.!!! it is the same block as the older 6.9L with a bigger bore making the cylinder walls extremly thin!
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If u get it for 500.00 ill give your money back for the front axel..
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...the 7.3L is P.O.S.!!!

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I had a 91 with a 7.3L it burned a hole in the block with 69k. the 7.3L is P.O.S.!!! it is the same block as the older 6.9L with a bigger bore making the cylinder walls extremly thin!
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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That's what I was thinking

For the original poster, I'd say $500 might be insulting. The deck itself is probably worth that. I'd figure more around $1500 would avoid the knee-jerk F.O. from the owner. The value would be in finding a decent engine to drop in, and a quick resale slightly below bluebook value. Its a desireable work-truck... with lots of life left in it.

FYI, it sounds a C&C model.... they have a narrow-track rear axle, and normally have a fixed-yoke t-case with PTO - besides the obvious ZF trans and D60 front axle.
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Old 10-17-2006, 05:48 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Bringing this back from the dead!

It's been a year now and this thing hasn't moved.
Are these engines junk or not?
How many $'s to fix?
Odometer is digital and reads 088,000
I'll take some pics and post.
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Old 10-17-2006, 07:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Who cares, try and buy it. Pull the axles, tranny and transfer case, whatever else looks good and scrap the rest. Sell some shit make some money keep some shit or give it to me, whatever is easiest.
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