Early Bronco guys- what coils? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

bignissan · 11-22-2005, 05:36 AM

A few Nissan guys have run some EB coils up front on there SAS trucks with some good results. However, since my nissan is different than most of them, I'm trying to figure out which coils to go with. I've got 1850 lbs of sprung weight on the front end, does anyone have any experience with the Cage Offroad coils (progressive rate). I'm deciding between those and Superflex 5.5" lift coils with a spring rate of 190 lbs per inch. I don't know the rate of the progessive coils, Cage Offroad won't tell me. I like the idea of the prog. rates, but not sure if they'll still be to stiff since they advertise them for the fullsize trucks as well. What is your front end weight/coils that your using and how do you like them? Thanks for the help. BTW, I posted this in Gen 4x4 to get info on the different spring types, just curious if any of y'all have experience with these.

TDbronco · 11-22-2005, 05:44 AM

Wild Horses rock crawler progressive rate spring

or look into a Jeep TJ coil

bignissan · 11-22-2005, 05:51 AM

Thanks! I'll check into it. I've heard the Jeep Coils have been way too soft. I'll check into the Wild Horses though.

bignissan · 11-22-2005, 05:57 AM

Just looked at the Wh springs, going to call them later today to see what info I can find out. Thanks again!

broncolou · 11-22-2005, 06:37 AM

I have had the WH ,BC BRoncos and the Cage coils and prefer the Cage overall. Contact Jim cole at the shop and he is extremely Knowledgable on all the rates and such since he specs out all their products. He has been at this almost as long as Jim Creel.

bignissan · 11-22-2005, 07:02 AM

I called Cage, I'm not sure who I spoke with, but they said their design and engineering team keeps the springs rates "under close wraps" and wouldn't give them to me? I don't know what's so secretive about it...maybe I'll try again and ask for Jim?

bignissan · 11-22-2005, 07:03 AM

Broncolou, how much does your rig weigh up front? Any idea? Thanks again.

freerider · 11-22-2005, 09:15 AM

is there a website for the cage coils? thanks. tried to google it but couldn't find squat

EDIT: nevermind, just found the site www.cageoffroad.com hmm go figure

broncolou · 11-22-2005, 09:31 AM

I would guess in the 1500-1800# range. Probably about 300-400# less than stock through attrition and the motor being moved back almost a foot.

bignissan · 11-22-2005, 02:10 PM

awesome, that's what I'm at ~1850 lbs. I called WH, they are 204 lbs/in then 376 lbs/in. Still stiffer than the superflex coils at 190 lbs/in. I need to see what will work best. I'm need to call Cage back and pester them for info.
Thanks again,
greg

RedneckCadet · 11-22-2005, 11:12 PM

i run bc bronco 5.5" coils and i can max out an RTI ramp. thats with a wristed arm and fullsize axles on my 74 EB. they are very soft, i am very pleased. unfortunately never had the pleasure of testing other brands but have heard nothing but great things about the Cage coils as well

-cutts-

projp · 11-23-2005, 07:46 PM

Have run Duff's and Cage in 3.5". Duffs are stiffer by a bunch, (technical term).
On road--Duffs
Off road--Cage

11-22-2005, 05:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
bignissan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14644 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 2,015	Early Bronco guys- what coils? A few Nissan guys have run some EB coils up front on there SAS trucks with some good results. However, since my nissan is different than most of them, I'm trying to figure out which coils to go with. I've got 1850 lbs of sprung weight on the front end, does anyone have any experience with the Cage Offroad coils (progressive rate). I'm deciding between those and Superflex 5.5" lift coils with a spring rate of 190 lbs per inch. I don't know the rate of the progessive coils, Cage Offroad won't tell me. I like the idea of the prog. rates, but not sure if they'll still be to stiff since they advertise them for the fullsize trucks as well. What is your front end weight/coils that your using and how do you like them? Thanks for the help. BTW, I posted this in Gen 4x4 to get info on the different spring types, just curious if any of y'all have experience with these. __________________ 1986.5 Nissan crawler - dual cases, one tons, 42's... 2003 SV650 1997 F350 DRW PSD

11-22-2005, 05:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
TDbronco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11420 Location: ID Posts: 596	Wild Horses rock crawler progressive rate spring or look into a Jeep TJ coil __________________ There is nothing better than being on the trail

11-22-2005, 05:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
bignissan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14644 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 2,015	Thanks! I'll check into it. I've heard the Jeep Coils have been way too soft. I'll check into the Wild Horses though. __________________ 1986.5 Nissan crawler - dual cases, one tons, 42's... 2003 SV650 1997 F350 DRW PSD

11-22-2005, 05:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
bignissan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14644 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 2,015	Just looked at the Wh springs, going to call them later today to see what info I can find out. Thanks again! __________________ 1986.5 Nissan crawler - dual cases, one tons, 42's... 2003 SV650 1997 F350 DRW PSD

11-22-2005, 06:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
broncolou Rock God Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26750 Location: Parkton MD Posts: 2,164	I have had the WH ,BC BRoncos and the Cage coils and prefer the Cage overall. Contact Jim cole at the shop and he is extremely Knowledgable on all the rates and such since he specs out all their products. He has been at this almost as long as Jim Creel. __________________ Lou EB Buggy #231 RCrocks/Line Mtn www.EXTREMEAXLESALES.COM WWW.INTERCOTIRE.COM WWW.RC4X4.ORG WWW.earlybroncos.com www.stickeylee.com www.bilstein.com

11-22-2005, 07:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
bignissan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14644 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 2,015	I called Cage, I'm not sure who I spoke with, but they said their design and engineering team keeps the springs rates "under close wraps" and wouldn't give them to me? I don't know what's so secretive about it...maybe I'll try again and ask for Jim? __________________ 1986.5 Nissan crawler - dual cases, one tons, 42's... 2003 SV650 1997 F350 DRW PSD

11-22-2005, 07:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
bignissan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14644 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 2,015	Broncolou, how much does your rig weigh up front? Any idea? Thanks again. __________________ 1986.5 Nissan crawler - dual cases, one tons, 42's... 2003 SV650 1997 F350 DRW PSD

11-22-2005, 09:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
freerider Rock God Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1790 Location: SFV Posts: 1,772	is there a website for the cage coils? thanks. tried to google it but couldn't find squat EDIT: nevermind, just found the site www.cageoffroad.com hmm go figure __________________ Live FAST die FUN Last edited by freerider; 11-22-2005 at 09:19 AM. Reason: found out what i was asking for

11-22-2005, 09:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
broncolou Rock God Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26750 Location: Parkton MD Posts: 2,164	I would guess in the 1500-1800# range. Probably about 300-400# less than stock through attrition and the motor being moved back almost a foot. __________________ Lou EB Buggy #231 RCrocks/Line Mtn www.EXTREMEAXLESALES.COM WWW.INTERCOTIRE.COM WWW.RC4X4.ORG WWW.earlybroncos.com www.stickeylee.com www.bilstein.com

11-22-2005, 02:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
bignissan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14644 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 2,015	awesome, that's what I'm at ~1850 lbs. I called WH, they are 204 lbs/in then 376 lbs/in. Still stiffer than the superflex coils at 190 lbs/in. I need to see what will work best. I'm need to call Cage back and pester them for info. Thanks again, greg __________________ 1986.5 Nissan crawler - dual cases, one tons, 42's... 2003 SV650 1997 F350 DRW PSD

11-22-2005, 11:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
RedneckCadet Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15955 Posts: 306	i run bc bronco 5.5" coils and i can max out an RTI ramp. thats with a wristed arm and fullsize axles on my 74 EB. they are very soft, i am very pleased. unfortunately never had the pleasure of testing other brands but have heard nothing but great things about the Cage coils as well -cutts- __________________ 96 F350 4x4 XLT Ranch Hands F/R, 4pos chip, Stage-1's, OBA 72 Bronco 302/435/D20/D60/10.25 39.5

11-23-2005, 07:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
projp Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33644 Location: Cedar HIlls, Ut. Posts: 10	Have run Duff's and Cage in 3.5". Duffs are stiffer by a bunch, (technical term). On road--Duffs Off road--Cage

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