GM saginaw pump in yer ferd - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Halogrinder · 02-28-2007, 05:45 PM

so my cheap truck is getting some steering action revamped.

the box is being rebuilt from WTOR, and getting ported for hydro assist. all in anticipation of the front spool, and soon to be mud drags that are going on up here.

anywhoo, i need to put a GM Canned Ham p/s box on my ferd. anyone got some pics of brackets? i still need to buy the pump so i can get to it, but it never hurts to ask

currently i have the p/s pump that looks like a cherry bomb, with the little steel dipstick.

mj · 02-28-2007, 06:07 PM

the stock brackets

Halogrinder · 02-28-2007, 06:15 PM

yea see i dont have that bracket. i have the one that is on the engine, but i dont have the bracket that bolts to the p/s pump. is it that easy?

mj · 02-28-2007, 06:37 PM

if you buy the special cardone pump it is

Halogrinder · 02-28-2007, 06:42 PM

show me the way!!!

mj · 02-28-2007, 06:54 PM

cardone p#20-6244

http://www.cardone.com/English/Club/...ns/pt50-20.asp

find a parts house that carries cardone and order it.
it was pricey here

mj · 02-28-2007, 06:56 PM

ford used the same pump on most stuff so the cardone will fit almost anywhere the ford pump fits

jopes · 02-28-2007, 07:09 PM

77 ltd with a 400 and hydro boost. I had to move the bracket and modify it some so it would fit with the factory AC brackets which is my york compressor now.

82F100SWB · 02-28-2007, 08:33 PM

Find a Van with your engine, scam it's pump... Ford always has, and still does run Siagnaws on the vans.
Heck, even if it's not the same engine, the bracket bolted to the pump will probably bolt to your brackets.

PROJECTJUNKIE · 03-01-2007, 12:37 AM

^ Ditto

mtroy · 03-01-2007, 01:23 AM

van pump and bracket

78Buford · 03-01-2007, 09:36 AM

I have the Saginaw unit on mine...Lincoln's w/ Hydroboost used the Saginaw pump and the A6 AC unit instead of the weak Ford PS pump and the York AC unit.

The reason that I have the A6 unit for OBA is because I wasn't willing to get rid of the Saginaw pump. At the time, I did not know of a way to have both the York AC unit for OBA and the Saginaw pump....and being able to steer was more important than airing up tires.

BTW, the A6 OBA setup works great...zero complaints, and it is often used to air up 12 tires in a row at the end of a ride....mine and a couple moochers.

Roy

GWBronco · 03-01-2007, 09:57 AM

I got my pump at Napa pat # 20-6244, I guess the same one as cardone. It was like $120. I bolts to the stock ford bracket. Mine is on a 351w and a buddy has it on his 302. It will move my 38.5's with the ARB on. Forgot to add that the price included the core charge. Also if going to a full size steering box the lines will match, you do not need the adapter.

Gummi Bear · 03-01-2007, 02:24 PM

It looks like it's an off-the-shelf unit from O-Reilly's.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/EW3/ByPar...ction=doSearch

Give them your old pump for a core, and save $45

mustange70 · 03-01-2007, 02:40 PM

Hit up the local pick -n- pul and raid any ford van or ford/lincoln/mercury car (70's and early 80's you best ebt) for the bracket and pump.

Roughshod · 03-02-2007, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustange70

Hit up the local pick -n- pul and raid any ford van or ford/lincoln/mercury car (70's and early 80's you best ebt) for the bracket and pump.

x2. I just did this, scored the bracket and sag pump for $28 from the pull-a-part. The rebuild kit for the sag pump was only another $16 from Advance Auto, and my existing power steering hose fit the sag pump just fine.

LeviGarrett76 · 03-02-2007, 04:03 PM

did the rebuild kit come with all new parts or just a bushing and o-rings?

Im trying to find a rebuild kit for mine but all ive been able to find is a seal kit

NHRedneck · 03-20-2007, 05:26 AM

advance auto parts lists the pump online for a:
Vehicle: 1975 FORD E-250 ECONOLINE CLUB WAGON
Engine: V8 5.8 Liter 2BBL

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=251&PTSet=A

55.00 + 14.99 core charge..... you can get free shipping if order it online

02-28-2007, 05:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Halogrinder Moderhater Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16980 Location: h-town Posts: 11,313	GM saginaw pump in yer ferd so my cheap truck is getting some steering action revamped. the box is being rebuilt from WTOR, and getting ported for hydro assist. all in anticipation of the front spool, and soon to be mud drags that are going on up here. anywhoo, i need to put a GM Canned Ham p/s box on my ferd. anyone got some pics of brackets? i still need to buy the pump so i can get to it, but it never hurts to ask currently i have the p/s pump that looks like a cherry bomb, with the little steel dipstick. __________________ Im your BMW huckleberry https://www.facebook.com/BMWdoctor can you do me a favor and like/share my page? If you like/share, you get free washes/discounts/other neat stuff for you car! gun facts that will blow your mind: http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-fa...6_1_screen.pdf

02-28-2007, 06:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Halogrinder Moderhater Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16980 Location: h-town Posts: 11,313	yea see i dont have that bracket. i have the one that is on the engine, but i dont have the bracket that bolts to the p/s pump. is it that easy? __________________ Im your BMW huckleberry https://www.facebook.com/BMWdoctor can you do me a favor and like/share my page? If you like/share, you get free washes/discounts/other neat stuff for you car! gun facts that will blow your mind: http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-fa...6_1_screen.pdf

02-28-2007, 06:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Halogrinder Moderhater Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16980 Location: h-town Posts: 11,313	show me the way!!! __________________ Im your BMW huckleberry https://www.facebook.com/BMWdoctor can you do me a favor and like/share my page? If you like/share, you get free washes/discounts/other neat stuff for you car! gun facts that will blow your mind: http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-fa...6_1_screen.pdf

02-28-2007, 07:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
jopes Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8469 Location: Douglas, Wyoming Posts: 3,191	77 ltd with a 400 and hydro boost. I had to move the bracket and modify it some so it would fit with the factory AC brackets which is my york compressor now. __________________ 408ci SEFI, 70mm throttle body, 90mm mass air, stang harness, tweecer R/T waiting on a home.

02-28-2007, 08:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
82F100SWB Fawkin Fordhead Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 15263 Location: Winterpeg, Canada Posts: 2,048	Find a Van with your engine, scam it's pump... Ford always has, and still does run Siagnaws on the vans. Heck, even if it's not the same engine, the bracket bolted to the pump will probably bolt to your brackets. __________________ 96 F350 XL CC PSD/5 speed 4x4... New Tow pig in the making 96 F250 XLT Ex Cab PSD/5 speed 4x4... DD/Tow Pig 92 W250 LE, CTD/5 speed 4x4, tow pig/DD/snow pushin pig 86 F250... 460/T19/1345/D60/welded 10.25, 44 Boggers, reg cab, some junk... Build

02-28-2007, 06:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
mj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1919 Location: BC Canada Posts: 7,547	the stock brackets

02-28-2007, 06:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
mj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1919 Location: BC Canada Posts: 7,547	if you buy the special cardone pump it is

02-28-2007, 06:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
mj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1919 Location: BC Canada Posts: 7,547	cardone p#20-6244 http://www.cardone.com/English/Club/...ns/pt50-20.asp find a parts house that carries cardone and order it. it was pricey here

02-28-2007, 06:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
mj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1919 Location: BC Canada Posts: 7,547	ford used the same pump on most stuff so the cardone will fit almost anywhere the ford pump fits

03-01-2007, 12:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
PROJECTJUNKIE Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52361 Location: Tucson,AZ Posts: 1,197	^ Ditto

03-01-2007, 01:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
mtroy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 30098 Location: So Cal Posts: 539	van pump and bracket Attached Images __________________ [FONT=Arial]Feature Editor C4x4.com. Former owner of project This Old Scout. New owner of Project 'Blue Oval YJ', an 89 Wrangler with lots of potential! [url]http://www.c4x4.com/new_projects/yj/blue_oval_yj.html[/url] [/FONT]

03-01-2007, 09:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
78Buford Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29565 Location: Ohio Posts: 350	I have the Saginaw unit on mine...Lincoln's w/ Hydroboost used the Saginaw pump and the A6 AC unit instead of the weak Ford PS pump and the York AC unit. The reason that I have the A6 unit for OBA is because I wasn't willing to get rid of the Saginaw pump. At the time, I did not know of a way to have both the York AC unit for OBA and the Saginaw pump....and being able to steer was more important than airing up tires. BTW, the A6 OBA setup works great...zero complaints, and it is often used to air up 12 tires in a row at the end of a ride....mine and a couple moochers. Roy __________________ 1978 Big Ugly FORD F-350 460, C-6, NP 205, 4.10, 1410 DS Joints D60: Detroit, Dedenbear Knuckles, Yukon 4340 35 spline inners & outers, Longfield Superjoints, Drive Flanges Dana 70-U: Welded 4 Wheel Disc Brakes MM 12K Electric Winch Dual Batteries, A-6 OBA No Lift, 42" TSL's on 15x8's

03-01-2007, 09:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
GWBronco Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 39734 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 167	I got my pump at Napa pat # 20-6244, I guess the same one as cardone. It was like $120. I bolts to the stock ford bracket. Mine is on a 351w and a buddy has it on his 302. It will move my 38.5's with the ARB on. Forgot to add that the price included the core charge. Also if going to a full size steering box the lines will match, you do not need the adapter. __________________ Idiot Last edited by GWBronco; 03-01-2007 at 10:00 AM.

03-01-2007, 02:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
Gummi Bear Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26216 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 1,038	It looks like it's an off-the-shelf unit from O-Reilly's. http://www.oreillyauto.com/EW3/ByPar...ction=doSearch Give them your old pump for a core, and save $45 __________________ I consider myself a student of the game, it's just too bad I'm in special ed...

03-01-2007, 02:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,109	Hit up the local pick -n- pul and raid any ford van or ford/lincoln/mercury car (70's and early 80's you best ebt) for the bracket and pump.

03-02-2007, 04:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
LeviGarrett76 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13654 Location: Ga Posts: 1,054	did the rebuild kit come with all new parts or just a bushing and o-rings? Im trying to find a rebuild kit for mine but all ive been able to find is a seal kit

03-20-2007, 05:26 AM	#18 (permalink)
NHRedneck Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47246 Location: Greenville NH Posts: 466	advance auto parts lists the pump online for a: Vehicle: 1975 FORD E-250 ECONOLINE CLUB WAGON Engine: V8 5.8 Liter 2BBL http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=251&PTSet=A 55.00 + 14.99 core charge..... you can get free shipping if order it online __________________ Mud DriverI: 79 F150 built 400M, 35x14.5x15 boggers, 4" lift, 9"R, D44 F, NP435, NP203 : [url]http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2145548[/url] Mud DriverII: 77 F250 stock 400M, 36x12.5x16.5 TSL's, highboy, D60 R,D44F HD , NP435, np205 : [url]http://www.cardomain.com/ride/393604[/url]

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