HP Dana 44 WMS???? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Brand Specific Tech > Ford
Notices

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-29-2002, 11:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
inphobic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Member # 8422
Location: Kansas City, Kansas
Posts: 2,689
Send a message via AIM to inphobic
HP Dana 44 WMS????

I am putting full widths under my EB and I am looking for a HP D44 with disc brakes. I think I am looking for a 76/77 axle from a P/U. I have been trying to find actual measurements of wms to wms. I have seen anything from 64.75" to 67.75" I have also seen other posted but I think it's in this range of truth... Does anyone know for sure what this particular axle measures? Any help would be appreciated. I also have a wanted ad posted here on pirates if anybody knows where I can pick one up cheap! Thanks, Jake
__________________
Jake Good
1971 Resto-Crawler Bronco Build
inphobic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 01:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Member # 11196
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 177
Just measured mine. Its a Dana44 HP with disc brakes and welded on C mounts from a supposedly 76 F150. WMS to WMS is 65.5". The matching 9" rearend is 65" WMS to WMS.
__________________
Strap??? But my wheels are still spinning and the tank is half full.

88 XJ on 38's and coilovered front

2001.5 Dodge 4x4 QC CTD 450hp
Whiplash is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 05-29-2002, 09:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Member # 9799
Location: Loomis, CA
Posts: 391
I am going to try to do the same thing, so sorry to barge into your post, but do you know if you can get a HP dana 44 with disc brakes and a 9" rear with a big bearing housing off of a fulsize f150? IF so, what year, and are they easy to find at a junkyard?

Sorry to barge into your post

thanks
Lure
__________________
85 toy w/pick n pull bucket seats
Lure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2002, 09:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Member # 11111
Location: Spartanburg, SC
Posts: 1,019
Send a message via AIM to John Deere Ranger
ohh yea they aren't hard to find at all I bought some for $200 with 4.10 gears... takes a little looking but not hard to find...
__________________
1987 John Deere Edition Ranger
Dana 60
Sterling 10.25 Rear
5.0 HO/ZF/NP203/NP205

Secretary of Navy Gideon Wells wrote n his diary that Lincoln
"thought it essential to provide an asylum for a race which he had emancipated, but which could never be recognized or admitted to be our equals."
John Deere Ranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 12:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
Rock God
 
emsoffroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Member # 1802
Location: Shamokin, PA
Posts: 1,702
Send a message via AIM to emsoffroad
Quote:
Originally posted by Whiplash
Just measured mine. Its a Dana44 HP with disc brakes and welded on C mounts from a supposedly 76 F150. WMS to WMS is 65.5". The matching 9" rearend is 65" WMS to WMS.
That's what mine HP44 is. If you use 250 outers they get 2"-3" wider.
__________________
EMS Offroad
emsoffroad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 05:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
inphobic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Member # 8422
Location: Kansas City, Kansas
Posts: 2,689
Send a message via AIM to inphobic
Thanks for the help guys. I think that's where my confusion started is nobody posted what axle they were measuring, just a dana 44. Hell 5 inches is all the wider those are from the bronco that should be just about perfect.

does anybody have a pic of what the cast radius arm wedges look like on the later bronco ones? I think I can make it work and since it already has disc be cheaper.



Thanks, Jake
__________________
Jake Good
1971 Resto-Crawler Bronco Build
inphobic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 09:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Member # 11196
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 177
Quote:
If you use 250 outers they get 2"-3" wider.
EMSOFFROAD, where is the extra width gained? Is the hub just a wider unit?

Quote:
does anybody have a pic of what the cast radius arm wedges look like o
Inphobic, I don't have any pics but the later ones are hard to modify. The front and rear C mounts are one piece that join the 2 piece axletubes together. Yes, the bone heads at Ford used 1 axletube to go between the axle housing and the cast wedge and another seperate tube for between the wedge and the knuckle.
__________________
Strap??? But my wheels are still spinning and the tank is half full.

88 XJ on 38's and coilovered front

2001.5 Dodge 4x4 QC CTD 450hp
Whiplash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 09:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
inphobic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Member # 8422
Location: Kansas City, Kansas
Posts: 2,689
Send a message via AIM to inphobic
Well it sounds like I should stick to the advice I recieved and get a pre 78 and put disc brakes on it. Thanks for the good info. Jake
__________________
Jake Good
1971 Resto-Crawler Bronco Build
inphobic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 10:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Member # 1434
Location: No. Cal
Posts: 172
Quote:
Originally posted by inphobic
Well it sounds like I should stick to the advice I recieved and get a pre 78 and put disc brakes on it. Thanks for the good info. Jake
Jake depends on what your building. If your anal or building a pretty rig like Fearme's old EB then you want the moveable c-bush mounts.The only advantages I see is a more tire clearance & the opportunity to change your castor.
If your not particular then get what's available and slap it in there. Budda Bing, your done and wheeling. Thats what I did, check it out:
http://mike.sierrabronco.com/index.html
Mondo EB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2002, 01:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Mr.N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Member # 1635
Location: Minne-so-cold
Posts: 4,061
Quote:
Originally posted by Whiplash

where is the extra width gained? Is the hub just a wider unit?
I've a couple of axles shafts, from 73-79 from F150's and F250 HP Dana 44's. When I compare a 79 F150 against a 79 F250: Short side of the axle shafts are the same, except different groves on the 19 spline outer part. Fot the long side inner axle shaft the F250 is ~1 inch longer.
As Far as I can tell the axle shafts are the same for F100 and F150's from 73-79, I'll double check tonight.
__________________
Proud Catholic | My Dana Articles and Info -> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html
Mr.N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2002, 12:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
inphobic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Member # 8422
Location: Kansas City, Kansas
Posts: 2,689
Send a message via AIM to inphobic
MR N, If you could find out what axles will interchange in dana 44 housings that would be good info to know.
__________________
Jake Good
1971 Resto-Crawler Bronco Build
inphobic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2002, 07:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Mr.N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Member # 1635
Location: Minne-so-cold
Posts: 4,061
Quote:
Originally posted by inphobic
MR N, If you could find out what axles will interchange in dana 44 housings that would be good info to know.
Like what?
Ford EB and F150 / F100 have the stub inner axle shaft with in 1/4" of each other.
Ford IFS and 80's Full Size Jeep have stub shaft with in 1/8" of each other ( A great source of cheap axle shafts if your shorting)

I want to know if all 73-79 F150 and F100's have the same axle shaft, I'm collecting shafts to find out. So far they are the same.
__________________
Proud Catholic | My Dana Articles and Info -> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html
Mr.N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2002, 05:24 AM   #13 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
inphobic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Member # 8422
Location: Kansas City, Kansas
Posts: 2,689
Send a message via AIM to inphobic
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.N

I want to know if all 73-79 F150 and F100's have the same axle shaft, I'm collecting shafts to find out. So far they are the same.
That is the question i was asking... Keep up the research! Jake
__________________
Jake Good
1971 Resto-Crawler Bronco Build
inphobic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.