3:1 gears for a Ford 205

[Slick Willie]

Low Max doesn't offer 3:1 gearing for the Ford NP205. From what I understand, no one offers them for the driver drop NP205. Anyone on here have a Ford 205 with 3:1 gears? Or know of where to get some?

[jtr]

Originally Posted by Slick Willie

Low Max doesn't offer 3:1 gearing for the Ford NP205. From what I understand, no one offers them for the driver drop NP205. Anyone on here have a Ford 205 with 3:1 gears? Or know of where to get some?

You could use a Ford Borg Warner 1345, it has 2.71:1. Not as strong but there are tons of them in the yards. The one I have in my Jeep came out of F250 with a 460.

[mj]

a quick survey from all the 3:1 205 gear vendors came up empty handed
they will not fit in the stock case
doubler or pester lomax to cast a ford case

[GubNi]

A doubler gives you 4 to 1 and with the trails around here that can be too low. A 3 to 1 would be perfect.

[mj]

run the trans in a higher gear

[wtr40rock]

will a 1354 bolt up to the trans of a 205 like a t18

[Ditchrunner]

Originally Posted by wtr40rock

will a 1354 bolt up to the trans of a 205 like a t18

Yep. You might have to modify your driveshafts, though.

[wtr40rock]

so where can i get a 1354, what trucks

[Blown349]

Originally Posted by Slick Willie

Low Max doesn't offer 3:1 gearing for the Ford NP205. From what I understand, no one offers them for the driver drop NP205. Anyone on here have a Ford 205 with 3:1 gears? Or know of where to get some?

Eat linen, drink ink, shit cash, and get a Atlas II, Doubler, Klune V or Black Box!

[supervert]

you want a bw 1345 or 1356 (not 1354) the 1354 and the 1350 are ranger stuff.

[wtr40rock]

alright so what year truck should i look for to get the t-case since I'll most likely hit the yard this weekend

[supervert]

80's and 90's should all have mag. chain drive bw case's i dont know off the top of my head what year they switched from 1345 to 1356. i cant say if one is stronger than the other. try to get one out of a bronco with a fixed yoke, but check the trucks to because i have heard of them having them to, but i have never seen one.

[jtr]

My 1345 came out of an 1984 F250 4x4, 460/c6/BW1345. There is a tag on the back of the case that will show the number. If you want I have Ford NP208 that has similiar gearing and fixed yokes. I am in the Reno area and price would be a case of Olympia beer!

[NOODLES]

my 88 f150 had a 1345. only cause the 1256 broke and i got a 1345 and driveshaft fr cheap. I am sure it came out of a longbed f150 originally cause the driveshaft fit.

[blackcloud]

you could build a 203 205 doubler and get 3:1s for the 203, then youd have 2:1 3:1 and 6:1

[svt150j49]

yeah the only problem is the 1300 BWs are all chain drive... mines a 1356 and its worn to f***. only had one problem since the day i got it. other than a lil noise the BWs work.

[Slick Willie]

Originally Posted by Blown349

Eat linen, drink ink, shit cash, and get a Atlas II, Doubler, Klune V or Black Box!

You're missing the point that I didn't explain. So to entertain you, I guess I should explain. I'm looking to buy a doubler settup that can give me 1,2,3, & 6:1 gearing options from the t-cases. Klune only makes a 2.7 or a 4 and they're about 3 times as expensive as the highest $$ of either a 203 or 205. The NWF box is only 2.7 and is also $$ compared to a 203 or 205. Long story short, I need 3:1 gears in either a 203 or a 205, so I'm trying to figure out who makes them or what works for either.

I'm not getting any more aluminum cases or chain drives. Been there, done that...I need the beef.

Originally Posted by blackcloud

you could build a 203 205 doubler and get 3:1s for the 203, then youd have 2:1 3:1 and 6:1

Actually, that's what I'm trying to do. 3:1 in either the 203 or 205 for a doubler combo. So far, one guy thinks maybe the 205 gears are interchangable, but I don't know about that, and one guy says 3:1 gears for a 203 can be found at Sumner Machine Co in Gallatin, TN. Needless to say, I need a lot more information on 3:1's for a 203 or a Ford 205. That's where you guys come in.

[mj]

pretty sure it was answered in full
no such thing as 3:1 for a ford 205
good luck on getting some for a 203
buy a NWF black box

[Slick Willie]

Originally Posted by mj

pretty sure it was answered in full
no such thing as 3:1 for a ford 205
good luck on getting some for a 203
buy a NWF black box

I already said no one makes a 3:1 kit for a Ford, I'm asking if the gears alone are interchangable. Edit: Now I understand your post. They won't fit in the stock box. Thanks.

I've never heard of 3:1 gears for a 203 either, so I'm trying to get more info if there is such a thing.

The black box would marginally be close to the same gearing and work, but it's $1600 by itself compared to ~ $1k for piecing together a 3:1 205.

If I have no luck here, I'll just pony up and get the 3 speed Stak box and bolt it up. I'm only considering the 203/205 because there's one for sale for cheap close to me.

[Jrod-13]

I've had good luck with my 1356/205 doubler. gives me the option of 2;1, 2.69:1, or 5.4: 1

[fishinnutt]

The 3 to 1 gears for my 203 were done by wagoner machine. It is a $1000 dollar mod and they cut a portion of the bottom of the 203 out to make the new gear fit. Wagoner machine may now be called Sumner machine but I am not sure of that.

[Davethorik]

Originally Posted by fishinnutt

The 3 to 1 gears for my 203 were done by wagoner machine. It is a $1000 dollar mod and they cut a portion of the bottom of the 203 out to make the new gear fit. Wagoner machine may now be called Sumner machine but I am not sure of that.

I don't think they make this any more, which was what mj was alluding to.

[NPKenny]

Originally Posted by Jrod-13

I've had good luck with my 1356/205 doubler. gives me the option of 2;1, 2.69:1, or 5.4: 1

Is there a link to your build?

[dobsogj]

I think John still does the 3:1 203s

http://www.sumnermachine.com/

[wyldstallyn73]

I know you stated you dont want the aluminum/chain drive case option, but if you are basing that decision on the weakness of the 208, you might reconsider. I was breaking 208's pretty regularly in my mud racing buggy untill I switched to the BW1345- wider chain, stronger case and lower low range (208-2.61 vs 1345-2.74) To my knowledge, the BW1356 is also a stronger case than the 208 but seems to have a reputation for loosing the oil pump, and if not caught quickly enough, well, you know. I have also been using a 1345 in my trail rig for over a year now with no issues- broken a rear 70 shaft, bent my front and rear suspension "links" and even torqued/bounced/ broke my front suspension completely off last weekend and the t-case is still holding up it's share.