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Old 01-14-2008, 09:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ford Dana 44 axle Identification??

I ws told by the previous owner that this axle came out of a 4x4 ford van conversion....(it is full width,low pinion,and spring pads are real close to stock yj width....)




Since I broke the left front axle(inner and outer)I need to know what it is so I can get the correct parts to fix it.I tried to research it myself and cant come up with an answer.....

Any help would be appreciated...Thanks in advance!!!

Oh and Im already looking for a dana 60....
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Dana44_3.htm

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Old 01-14-2008, 11:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Probably came out of a "high boy" or mid 70s F250 with a divorced t-case. Look for a Ford with the factory hydro assist.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Dana44_3.htm

That is from "Mr. N." on here... always helps me out
Yeah it looks like its from a 76-77 pick-up(according to the link you posted...)Ill double check the BOM to make sure before I start to order any parts!!!
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the link!


Yeah a 76 or 77 axle is my first "guess".
Measure between the center of the top ball joints. (The F250 long side is about 1" longer than a F150. The short side is closer)

Edit: Which hubs do you run? external or internal?
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I got the date code, but the BOM # is no where to be found here it is 9 13 81 9 A,So it looks like it was built 9/13/81.I measured the hubs and they are just over 3" across the face.Also after further inspection the pumkin has been ground on to add the spring perch in the correct YJ position.

So any ideas of what this came out of originally would be great!!!!It is a low pinion dana 44,non radiaus arm axle with 8 lugs and smaller than 3" axle tubes!!!

I know the guy I got it from said it came from a "ford van conversion"......whatever that means
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Well, seeing the factory High steer here... Makes me want to say that 76-77 axle as well. With the exception of the 4.5" hubs. But maybe they were replaced with a standard half ton stub/hub assembly?



Here are some pics of a 76 and 77 ford conversion van, I don't know if they came with 4wd...




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Well, seeing the factory High steer here... Makes me want to say that 76-77 axle as well. With the exception of the 4.5" hubs. But maybe they were replaced with a standard half ton stub/hub assembly?
I wonder how they measure the inner axle shaft...Ill just pull it out measure it and find the factory length and order it up.The stub should be standard ford outer...I hope!
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How close is the date to the diff? The BOM should have been an inch or so to the right of the date. I think you have a home made axle there. I thought that ever since you posted the first pic. Look how much tube is between the diff and the d-side knuckle. That's way more than even a 77.5 to 79 Ford. It looks like it was custom made to line up with a Jeep. That might be why you can't see the BOM; they might have shortened that side.

I don't know of anything running a low-pinion driver's side in 81. Ford went to all HP's in January of 1977. Dodge didn't go drivers side till well into the 90's, and I believe they were high pinion. Chevy didn't go driver's side till it went IFS. Not sure about Jeeps except that the only D-side 44 they used up front that I know of was the Rubicon.
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It may be from a van conversion, aftermarket companys have been converting vans for years, some still do. This axle could be something a conversion company had made for them, either by dana or more likely a shop down the street(this would explain the date and missing bom). Pulling and measureing the shafts seems like the safest bet, you may not find a match if the shafts were made for that axle, worst case is a couple of custom shafts.


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that was not ford stock on anythign that i know of in 81. i second a 2wd to 4x4 van conversion weirdo width.
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Not sure about Jeeps except that the only D-side 44 they used up front that I know of was the Rubicon.
According to Mr N's site jeep used a driver drop in FSJs, date would work, however I think they were 6 lug with the chevy style brakes, knuckles could have been swapped, that short side looks too long to me though.


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I wonder how they measure the inner axle shaft...Ill just pull it out measure it and find the factory length and order it up.The stub should be standard ford outer...I hope!
Measure from the end of the spline (as far out as you can go) to the center of the hole for the u-joint.

Here is my small list of Dana 44 axle shafts, just all the 297 sized joints --> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Spicer...shortside_.gif

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Yeah it looks like its from a 76-77 pick-up(according to the link you posted...)Ill double check the BOM to make sure before I start to order any parts!!!
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if iet has th small hub the stub is shorter than the big hub style.
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That looks like an fsj 3/4 ton axle...... I dont think its a ford axle at all. I got one a while back from pick n pull, looked almost identical.... I just cant find the fawking pictures anymore.....

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That looks like an fsj 3/4 ton axle...... I dont think its a ford axle at all. I got one a while back from pick n pull, looked almost identical.... I just cant find the fawking pictures anymore.....

**** I HAVE BEEN WRONG BEFORE.
Ok, now I feel dumb... it could be. However the 3/4 ton Jeep has a ~16" short side axle shaft, the Ford is running a ~18".... And with the pic I'd still guess Ford.

Without know measurements it's hard to tell.
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X's 2... we tried to replace the short side shaft with a ford shaft and it was 2" to long. It measured 16"....

I still reserve the right to be totally wrong........
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Im gonna pull it out tomorrow or sunday...Ill measure it and see what it comes out to....I plan to put another stock inner and outer back in it,tack the caps and hope I can snow wheel it until the end of the season!!!!It kinda sucks since the guy I got the jeep from already spend too much $$$ polishing a turd!!!(5.89 gears,locker....) I think Im gonna put an auto and a dana 300 and get a pass drop front 60 to match the 70 strength in the rear!!!
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This was not a big-3 factory issue axle of any kind.

This axle was custom built by Dana Corporation for a hansful of 4x4 van conversion companies of that era. Namely Pathfinder or Four Wheel Drive Engineering (now called Advanced Four Wheel Drive Systems)

Van axles are about 3" wider than all typical truck and SUV axles. These were built with longer axle tubes and longer axleshafts. Spares will need to be custom made to length.
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This was not a big-3 factory issue axle of any kind.

This axle was custom built by Dana Corporation for a hansful of 4x4 van conversion companies of that era. Namely Pathfinder or Four Wheel Drive Engineering (now called Advanced Four Wheel Drive Systems)

Van axles are about 3" wider than all typical truck and SUV axles. These were built with longer axle tubes and longer axleshafts. Spares will need to be custom made to length.
Good thing you came along 6 years after the fact to tell them this bit of info.
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