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Old 03-26-2008, 11:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Superduty D60 / 10.5 Axle Questions

I just bought a 99-04 (he didnt know what it was from) D60 HP center chunk, and inner and outer knuckles off of a superduty. He already removed the axle tubes, which is why I bought it, so I can build a custom axle to fit my Land Rover. Since I do not know the exact year of this axle, and I am planning on buying a newer 03-04 front D60 from a local junkyard since its cheaper to steal the parts off of a complete axle rather than buy all new parts. So since I know my axle parts i just bought are for unit bearings and the diff has a spring pad, its got to be a 99-04. So will any front D60 from a 99-04 superduty be a good parts donor for my axle, regardless of what year so long as its just a 99-04? I'll be using the outer knuckles, unit bearing hubs, brakes, and shafts from this donor axle.

Also, when it comes to making new inner axle shafts to fit my shortened custom axle housing, will I be able to have a machine shop shorten and re-spline the stock shafts, or will I need to get aftermarkets? If I do need to get aftermarket shafts, can I just get the standard issue D60 custom inners from one of the various vender's?


As for my rear axle, I want to use a sterling 10.5, I searched and came up dry. I need to have a 65" WMS-WMS, and I also need the pinion moved 6" towards the passenger side to mate it with the land rover transfer case. I know with a D60 you can torch out the tubes, and then weld in some new DOM and Solid spindles. With the 10.5 I couldnt find any info on changing up the axle width.

Will I be able to just cut down the passenger side tube, then turn down the spindle, re-press it and weld it? How about on the drivers side, would it be no harder than a D60 to torch out the tube and weld in a new longer one, and then press the old spindle back in?

I also read that the new 05-07 superdutys have a wider track width so that ford could use lower offset wheels. Does anyone have the WMS-WMS measurement of one of these newer axles?

I also have not found anyone who makes rear sterling shafts either. Any help there?



Sorry about all of the questions, but I figured this is the best board for it.
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Old 03-27-2008, 05:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So will any front D60 from a 99-04 superduty be a good parts donor for my axle, regardless of what year so long as its just a 99-04? So long as it is a D60 and not a D50 they can be rather hard to tell apart without checking numbers.

As for my rear axle, I want to use a sterling 10.5, I searched and came up dry. I need to have a 65" WMS-WMS, and I also need the pinion moved 6" towards the passenger side to mate it with the land rover transfer case. I know with a D60 you can torch out the tubes, and then weld in some new DOM and Solid spindles. With the 10.5 I couldnt find any info on changing up the axle width. AFAIK there isn't anything special about shortening a Sterling. I don't follow what you say about a solid spindle unless you mean the brand Solid, but I don't know that they make anything for a Sterling.

Will I be able to just cut down the passenger side tube, then turn down the spindle, re-press it and weld it? How about on the drivers side, would it be no harder than a D60 to torch out the tube and weld in a new longer one, and then press the old spindle back in?AFAIK the spindles do not press into the axle tubes, they are a butt welded to the ends. But I have not had to change a spindle on any light duty full floater axle only medium and heavy duty axles such as Eaton, and Rockwell. The tubes should press out from the carrier just like a D60 D70 axle. I would have the spindle welded onto the new longer tube before installing that tube into the carrier. That way it can be held in a jig to maintain spindle alignment.

I also have not found anyone who makes rear sterling shafts either. Any help there? Moser Engineering will make them as well as make or modify the D60 axles you talked about earlier.

Sorry about all of the questions, but I figured this is the best board for it.

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Old 03-27-2008, 08:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Because of what you have already, and again, make sure its a 60, not a 50, I would buy Deadenbear C's and kunckles, and then you can run normal spindles and wheel bearings.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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99-00 they used D50 and 01-04 they switched to D60.

As far as 05-07, I believe they changed the hubs to acheive this and the axles are the same. Not 100% sure though.
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SRW front 60's did not show up until 2002.
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100% wrong the 05'-08' front axles are way diffrent, it's not just the hubs.
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Ok, well im 100% sure my center chunk is a 60.
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If its a F-350 axle then its a 60 if its a 250 then pre 2002's were 50's
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If its a F-350 axle then its a 60 if its a 250 then pre 2002's were 50's
Nope, If it's a pre 2002 srw its a 50, if it's pre 2002 drw it's a 60.


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Nope, If it's a pre 2002 srw its a 50, if it's pre 2002 drw it's a 60.


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Yup, this is correct. So to all the dumbfawks who think there were NO D60's 99-02, you are wrong.

I have an 02 D60 (srw) going into my project, and a sterling 10.5 to match!
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Nope, If it's a pre 2002 srw its a 50, if it's pre 2002 drw it's a 60.


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Old 03-28-2008, 08:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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There was one other exception to the pre 02 D60 front . Some of the pre 02 Excursions got a D60 too. I don't know if all of them got them, but I do know some model years of pre 02 Ex's got the D60. There were other items that the Ex got prior to the F and E series trucks like the glow plug controller on the 7.3 v/s glow plug relay that the F and E series 7.3 used, PATS system etc.
Other axle info worth noting, the early 99 front axles have a different track bar than the later models so the early track bar must be used with that axle. Also the early 99 rear axle is different that later models but again not a huge difference. It has different brakes, than the later model axles. The early 99 uses the same part number caliper for both sides since the L. and R. calipers are mounted on different sides of the housing. One side is in front of the axle and the other side is mounted behind the axle. The later model rear axles have both calipers behind the axle so there is two different caliper part numbers.
This is all to the best of my knowledge, not "etched in stone".

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My god are you guys new to fords?
02 was the switch over year for SRW trucks to get a 60. Some got them some got 50's. What ever they had laying around.
To end the bitiching in this thread.

99-2002 SRW were Dana 50's
99+ DRW were Dana 60's
2002+ SRW were 60's.
In 05 they went from leafs to coils.
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How did this thread turn into a what truck got a 60 what got a 50 thread.

I have a 60. I am buying another 60. All I needed to know was are the knuckles/hubs/brakes the same on all of the unitbearing 60s pre 05?

And who makes rear axle shafts for the sterling?
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How did this thread turn into a what truck got a 60 what got a 50 thread.

I have a 60. I am buying another 60. All I needed to know was are the knuckles/hubs/brakes the same on all of the unitbearing 60s pre 05?

And who makes rear axle shafts for the sterling?
did you not read the posts.
02 to 04 SRW had the exact axle you have.

Do the DRW axles have different hubs or spacers?
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Old 03-31-2008, 06:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help so far, Ive got my 60 situation figured out.

As for the rear Sterling 10.5, FF3PM said that the Sterling is nothing special, and that the spindles are butt welded in, and that the axle tubes and center should come apart just like a D60. Does anyone else have any real world experience with re-tubing a Sterling?

I called Moser, Dutchman, and Summers Brothers and they all seemed to be very confused when I mentioned this axle. Has anyone had custom shafts made for one of these axles, if so, who did you go through?
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