5.0 and ZF? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Gozuki · 07-17-2002, 09:20 AM

I want a 5 speed behind a 5.0, was thinking the t5 is too weak, and was wondering if the ZF was ever offered behind this motor?

Rock Puppy · 07-17-2002, 09:34 AM

IT was offered behind the 351W in the F250's. But the 351w and 302 both have the same bolt pattern so is should be a direct swap... I think they came in the 96 and up F250's.

NOODLES · 07-17-2002, 10:17 AM

no they also came in 88 f-250's .I have one. bad ass trans. it should bolt up take measurements before you start. and be carefull the bb cases look very simalar and fairly easy to mix up.

Flatty · 07-17-2002, 10:45 AM

My 91 Ford Diesel has the ZF in it. I was thinking about swapping in the ZF with the BW t-case when I do a 5.0 swap.

Dimitri

saf-t scissors · 07-17-2002, 06:40 PM

Flatty, how are you going to adapt the tall bellhousing to a small block? Got a secret I don't know about?

BTW -- Most times, the diesels will have a 4.14ish first gear instead of the 5.71 1st the gas motors got.

And strangely, the 300 sometimes can be found with a ZF trans. But you're right -- they're usually behind 88-97 351 motors.

Dustball · 07-17-2002, 08:42 PM

There's a small block ZF here at the local u-pull-it, 2wd though.

StoopidMonkey · 07-17-2002, 11:29 PM

Are you sure thats a ZF and not the Mazda built lump of poo? I had an 89 F150 2WD and it was the Mazda built.

Dustball · 07-18-2002, 01:13 AM

F-250, 5-speed tranny, had trans code Z on the door jamb sticker

saf-t scissors · 07-18-2002, 06:23 AM

Mazda M5OD-R2 (this one with 2wd tailshaft)

ZF S5-42

Note the diagonal ribs, PTO ports, and the sexy "ZF" on the side.

Gozuki · 07-18-2002, 09:02 AM

Will the ZF bolt to a 205?

FordPowr · 07-18-2002, 10:06 AM

Yup...same spline and bolt pattern. But you may need to put a notch in the adapter for the 205's shift linkage

saf-t scissors · 07-18-2002, 05:04 PM

.... and I would definitely provide a stout mount for the 205. Those ZFs are far too $$ to be needlessly breaking cases and tailshafts.

07-17-2002, 10:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Flatty Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 29 Location: Belmont, CA Posts: 6,388	My 91 Ford Diesel has the ZF in it. I was thinking about swapping in the ZF with the BW t-case when I do a 5.0 swap. Dimitri __________________ 1974 FJ40 in the works 2006 F250 crew cab longbed powerstroke for towing duties

07-17-2002, 08:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dustball Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4073 Location: St. Paul, MN, USA Posts: 988	There's a small block ZF here at the local u-pull-it, 2wd though. __________________ Dustin S. I had a brain-eating disease that died of starvation.

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Dustball Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4073 Location: St. Paul, MN, USA Posts: 988	F-250, 5-speed tranny, had trans code Z on the door jamb sticker __________________ Dustin S. I had a brain-eating disease that died of starvation.

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07-17-2002, 09:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rock Puppy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8302 Location: Some where in ponder Posts: 391	IT was offered behind the 351W in the F250's. But the 351w and 302 both have the same bolt pattern so is should be a direct swap... I think they came in the 96 and up F250's.

07-17-2002, 10:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
NOODLES Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3132 Location: I love jews Posts: 4,891	no they also came in 88 f-250's .I have one. bad ass trans. it should bolt up take measurements before you start. and be carefull the bb cases look very simalar and fairly easy to mix up.

07-17-2002, 06:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
saf-t scissors Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6733 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,168	Flatty, how are you going to adapt the tall bellhousing to a small block? Got a secret I don't know about? BTW -- Most times, the diesels will have a 4.14ish first gear instead of the 5.71 1st the gas motors got. And strangely, the 300 sometimes can be found with a ZF trans. But you're right -- they're usually behind 88-97 351 motors.

07-17-2002, 11:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
StoopidMonkey Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4176 Location: Minivan Land, UT Posts: 1,261	Are you sure thats a ZF and not the Mazda built lump of poo? I had an 89 F150 2WD and it was the Mazda built.

07-18-2002, 06:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
saf-t scissors Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6733 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,168	Mazda M5OD-R2 (this one with 2wd tailshaft) ZF S5-42 Note the diagonal ribs, PTO ports, and the sexy "ZF" on the side.

07-18-2002, 10:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
FordPowr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2139 Location: Shingle Springs, CA Posts: 1,072	Yup...same spline and bolt pattern. But you may need to put a notch in the adapter for the 205's shift linkage

07-18-2002, 05:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
saf-t scissors Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6733 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,168	.... and I would definitely provide a stout mount for the 205. Those ZFs are far too $$ to be needlessly breaking cases and tailshafts.