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Old 05-13-2008, 12:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Heavy duty axles for Dana 44 TTB

Hi, im new at this forum, hello everyone! well i have a problem with a 1993 Bronco. since it has Nitrous (150 HP) its breaking the font TTB left axle where the u joint is. So i decided to buy a reinforced axle to replace this one that is not being hard enough. The problem is that i cant find a heavy duty one so i need some recomendation where to look for one. so i would be very thankfull if some of you could tell me something.

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if you want to stay with the TTB find a dana 50 TTB for dirt cheap. uses dana 60 joints down side you convert to 8 lug but hey then you can put a 60 or sterling 10.25 in the rear

send superior your shafts thats about all i know of for options ont he TTB dana 44, anytime i had one in a bronco or a f150 i swapped it out to a dana 50 or fabbed in a hp dana 44 and stuck alloy shafts in.
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Show me proof you can use D50 TTB outers on a D44 TTB.
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The D50 TTB does not use D60-size joints, they are in between sizes of the D44 and D60.

I would agree though, get on the phone with Superior, Alloy USA, etc. and see what they can offer. Fortunately the driverside shaft is no different than for a straightaxle D44 (other than length), you should be able to find something for it without too much hassle, it's the passengerside shaft with the slip-spline that's probably gonna a bit tougher to get in 4340.

Perhaps simply running genuine Spicer 5-760X u-joints and welding the caps to the yokes could help, too (if it's busting at the joint).
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Thanks for your answers. I was thinking about changing to dana 50 but i dont know if i have to do chassis modifications to the bronco or something like that to fit with the dana 50. so do you know something about that??? tha daana 50 is 8 lug? i hope not realy because i have bolted on a 15x12 aluminium beadlocks and that will force me to change wheels and that is expensive. Do you know brands that make powerfull axles so i can ask them for 4340 axles for the bronco???

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Yes i am... hello, do you have something to tell me about??
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if you want to stay with the TTB find a dana 50 TTB for dirt cheap. .
A POS axle is still a POS axle. A D50 shafts neck down to a D44 size.



If you want it to last a little long run a d50 stub shaft. After you break that constantly grab a Solid 44 or 60, problem solved.
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How is he going to run a D50 stub shaft? D50TTB uses a 1350 external snapring u-joint, same as in rear driveshafts.
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How is he going to run a D50 stub shaft? D50TTB uses a 1350 external snapring u-joint, same as in rear driveshafts.

Anyone that runs a TTB44 breaks it and swaps in a D50 stub.

D44 stub versuses D50 stub, same splines, same size, bigger u-joint where most break. I've run one for about 3yrs or so now, they still break jsut not as often.

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Ok, I see. I was thinking outter stub. Didn't even think about the passanger side inner stub.
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Show me proof you can use D50 TTB outers on a D44 TTB.

I never suggested D50 TTB outers on a D44 TTB I stated getting a D50 for his truck like in robbing a whole dana 50 TTB out of a pickup.....


A d60 is my choice but a TTB can be fun you'll have to weld some brackets on the TTB50 but it will give you the suspension movement that is sometimes advantagious when jumping/ desert racing a 4x4 rig ...... Really depends on what you are doing, for all the work a D60 and a strong 4 link would be awesome but a D50 could be made to do a decent job
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Alright, just wanted to make sure someone didn't try that. Cannot be done.

Swapping a D50 TTB into a Bronco is plain retarded in itself. They are leaf sprung and all full size Broncos are coil sprung from the factory. Might as well find a straight axle like you suggested.
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Hi, im new at this forum, hello everyone! well i have a problem with a 1993 Bronco. since it has Nitrous (150 HP) its breaking the font TTB left axle where the u joint is. So i decided to buy a reinforced axle to replace this one that is not being hard enough. The problem is that i cant find a heavy duty one so i need some recomendation where to look for one. so i would be very thankfull if some of you could tell me something.

Well thanks... i'll be waiting answers

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Thanks for your answers. I was thinking about changing to dana 50 but i dont know if i have to do chassis modifications to the bronco or something like that to fit with the dana 50. so do you know something about that??? tha daana 50 is 8 lug? i hope not realy because i have bolted on a 15x12 aluminium beadlocks and that will force me to change wheels and that is expensive. Do you know brands that make powerfull axles so i can ask them for 4340 axles for the bronco???

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Swapping a D50 TTB into a Bronco is plain retarded in itself. They are leaf sprung and all full size Broncos are coil sprung from the factory. Might as well find a straight axle like you suggested.
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First off we need at least a little info, all we know is you have a bronco with nitrous, this is almost no help at all, horsepower/torque numbers, tire size/type, what kind of wheeling, how many times has the shaft broken, etc.

Without more info it's hard to give much in the way of advice, what will work for a stock motored truck used on sand dunes won't work for a big block truck with 40s being thrashed on rocks.


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First off we need at least a little info, all we know is you have a bronco with nitrous, this is almost no help at all, horsepower/torque numbers, tire size/type, what kind of wheeling, how many times has the shaft broken, etc.

Without more info it's hard to give much in the way of advice, what will work for a stock motored truck used on sand dunes won't work for a big block truck with 40s being thrashed on rocks.


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Sorry for my english.... its not my natural language... well ok i'll give more info. This is a 400 HP and 450 pound/ft of torque. is for sand duning, it has dick cepek 33x15.50R15 on 15x12 alloy wheels, and the shaft has broken two times at the u-joint both times. i dont want to modify too much, i want something simple but good. I hope that with this info you can help better.

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the HP and Torque numbers where taken on a dynojet 248X that we own.

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the TTB50 but it will give you the suspension movement that is sometimes advantagious when jumping/ desert racing a 4x4 rig ......

D50 ttb and axle movement don't go together, the d44 ttb a little, but not a 50.

I don't know why ford tried to run leaf springs on somethign that wants to move in an arc perpindicular to the spring....
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D50 ttb and axle movement don't go together, the d44 ttb a little, but not a 50.

I don't know why ford tried to run leaf springs on somethign that wants to move in an arc perpindicular to the spring....

exactly which is why i suggested that some welding would be in order.... he'll need to weld coil buckets onto the D50 or weld leaf spring brackets onto a bronco but anyone who palys in the sand or desert knows the limitations of leaf so i doubt hes thinking of using leafs
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CTM will make you new bad dude shafts. Expect to spend 2,000$.
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CTM will make you new bad dude shafts. Expect to spend 2,000$.
and for that price you could swap a 60 in thurr and never worry again.

if i was to build a high powerd buggy/truck id do a 60 with no questions asked, he says he has a 150hp shot of nos, so lets say he has a 200 to 250hp motor, 350 to 400hp is gunna snap a 44 shaft on doughnuts. you NEED to give us more info or just bite the bullet and buy a cheap stock d60.

or lose the nos and tires
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if i was to build a high powerd buggy/truck id do a 60 with no questions asked, he says he has a 150hp shot of nos, so lets say he has a 200 to 250hp motor, 350 to 400hp is gunna snap a 44 shaft on doughnuts. you NEED to give us more info or just bite the bullet and buy a cheap stock d60.
guys is WSORR and the desert are making 450hp with out snapping axles on TTB Ford...Try adjusting your driving style....don't be on the throttle when you land...don't stab the throttle with your wheels cranked...or try running narrower or less aggressive tires on the front.

Maybe like the rest of us non-rock crawlers we like the handling and travel of a independant front...throwing a 60 up front is not ideal for handling and would require just as much if not more fabricating than swaping in a 50 TTB front.
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