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Old 06-24-2009, 12:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question 1967-1972 Ford F250

Hello. I'm hoping someone might be able to help me with ideas on where to look for 1967-1972 Ford F250 Highboy 4x4 trucks being sold. I've tirelessly searched craigslist and poked around online, including auto trader classics, but for the most part haven't found anything along the lines of what I'm looking for. I'm just wondering if anybody on Pirate might have some suggestions on where else I might be looking. Thanks a ton for your help!

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Old 06-24-2009, 04:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'll keep an eye out. What location are you in? There are several on ebay now and usually all the time. Tried looking there? What's wrong with a '73 to '77? Got a flare for the old bumpsides do we?

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Old 06-24-2009, 06:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i love the 73-79 body. sadly in my area last year scrap prices hit $15.50 (per 100 pounds of steel), and it seems everyone crushed them so i could only imiange the older ones were the first to crush due to closed knuckle front ends, and fe engines (most folks dont desire either one of them) these trucks were bringing $600-$800 running or not, and rusted out past repair. prior to this i had been buying every $100-$500 4x4 73-79 ford i could find and repairing and selling them. it seems outwest az, cali, ect there are still alot of the older fords on craigslist less than a $1,000 i usually check about once a month to see what i could have had if only i was out there, usually it just makes me sad...lol best bet would probly be to pick up a good 2wd (they are usually better, as they havent been molested as much by every previous owner and there childern.) and put the body on 77.5 - 79ish (f250 non highboy) 4x4 running gear that way you have better axles, brakes, (open knuckles, bigger axle joints, disc brakes) ect. there is a mint 65 f250 4x4 here stock height on 9.00 / 16 ndts (36" military non directional tread) i have been trying to wear the orig. owners daughter down...lol sadly the original engine is long gone and under the hood is a 4.3L (chevy), getrag 5speed, and floating ford 205 t case hopefully one day i will own it i have a hot 351w and 4 speed just waiting for it.

there are a few sites online of horders one guy outwest somewhere does all makes ford, chev, dodge from 60's - 70's not sure of the address (maybe rust free classics?) and another guy in canada who does just fords from same years goodluck with your search.
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Hello again JVGABronco78. No, I actually like the 1975, but my dad's convinced the fourth generation trucks had stronger front ends. He's been pretty hard on me any time I bring up wanting to purchase a fifth generation F250. On the other thread, I'm picking your brain on some legitimate things to throw back at him.
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Hey Totalled, I'm sorry, but I don't understand PNW. What does that mean?
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Hey Totalled, I'm sorry, but I don't understand PNW. What does that mean?
Pacific North West. I guess he got it from your profile; I couldn't find it, or anyone's for that matter? I must not know where to look.
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Hello again JVGABronco78. No, I actually like the 1975, but my dad's convinced the fourth generation trucks had stronger front ends. He's been pretty hard on me any time I bring up wanting to purchase a fifth generation F250. On the other thread, I'm picking your brain on some legitimate things to throw back at him.
I don't think even Mythbusters or a CSI team could find a difference between a '67 to '73 chassis with the body removed. They'd have to have a sharp eye to pick up on the NP versus Dana t-case after '73. In '75 they started with the power steering, and 76/77 had different style axles, but still in the same packaging.

My favorite year would have to be '69 because HD front end was available and last year for the(and best looking) all-metal grill. However, I'm partial to the look of the '73/'79 body style so I wouldn't mine having a '73/'74 either, preferably with an NP-205 case and either an HD front, a 76/77 front with discs, or even a 78/79 44 or 60. Of course I will always have a 78/79 low-boy no matter what.
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Research front axles here: http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html

You'll find no difference in pre-'75 F-250 axles, all undesireable. If you lift a '77-1/2 thru '79 F-250 4" it will be a somewhat better truck in that it has many improvements in steering, axles, t-case, springs, frame, rust protection etc. It will have more plastic than the earlier trucks.
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yeah for most guys who will most likely break these front ends the later 70's fronts are better, bigger parts and easier to find replacement parts plus i am not sure about 60's steering but i believe 76ish and older had a different style steering where as 77 up was upgraded (i think pre 77 was called y steering and newer was t steering i might have that backwards but i know the newer was more desired plus some of the older had a hyd. asst steering ram that when you hit a stump or rock will leak leaving you with no steering asst.)

there is a 67-72 f100 on chuckstrucks here in florida (no help to anyone out west just an example) for $150 2wd no engine, then you figure you can get a 79ish f150 for a song and a dance usually ($500) bred the two and you could come out with a decent reliable truck (if i were building it into a trail rig i would use a 78-79 bronco running gear and build a flat bed that way you have a shorter wheel base and you could buy everything off the shelf, just my thoughts....hope it helps).
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I dont know if you would be willing to drive to Utah but ksl.com always has quiet a few for sale and pretty cheap. On ksl.com its under the classifieds section its one of the better classified websites that I have been to.

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Hey JGVABronco78, thanks again for the great info. It's very helpful. So now I can be confident that the front end on a, say 69' Ford F250 Highboy is going to look and be the same as that on a 75' Ford F250 Highboy. That said, I caught something you'd said in your latest reply that I do not fully understand. You mentioned the HD front end on the 69' and I'm not clear how that differs from the standard front end for that year. Please excuse my lack of knowledge here, but I sure would appreciate an explaination of what is specifically different on the HD front end that makes it more desireable? Is it the axle, or, heck, I can't even guess. Thanks again for your help on this!
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the HD front end on the 69' and I'm not clear how that differs from the standard front end for that year. Please excuse my lack of knowledge here, but I sure would appreciate an explaination of what is specifically different on the HD front end that makes it more desireable?
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Hey JGVABronco78, thanks again for the great info. It's very helpful. So now I can be confident that the front end on a, say 69' Ford F250 Highboy is going to look and be the same as that on a 75' Ford F250 Highboy. That said, I caught something you'd said in your latest reply that I do not fully understand. You mentioned the HD front end on the 69' and I'm not clear how that differs from the standard front end for that year. Please excuse my lack of knowledge here, but I sure would appreciate an explaination of what is specifically different on the HD front end that makes it more desireable? Is it the axle, or, heck, I can't even guess. Thanks again for your help on this!
I put the difference at the beginning of my post in the other thread. The HD front end that was an option from 1969 to 1975 had a larger steering u-joint in the axle, and therefore has a soft-ball sized sphere for an inner knuckle as opposed to a base-ball sized sphere for an inner knuckle on the light-duty axle with the smaller u-joint. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say they probably had slightly bigger king pins than the light version and maybe a slightly bigger inner wheel bearing, but I've never confirmed that. You should check out MR. N's little key lime pie web site. Its a good read for any question you might have on Dana axles, especially Ford.

It also had the external locking hubs which bolt on with 6 or 8 large bolts as opposed to the internal locking hubs that are held in with a skinny snap-ring around the edge of the hub. This large bolted-flange is also what you would use to install a heavy-duty bolt-on drive flange for a full-time axle as opposed to one that just slips inside with the snap-ring.

They didn't offer the HD version until 1969, and there was no HD version of the 76/77 open-knuckled, ball-jointed, disc brake axles. They all came with the HD external hubs, but they all also only used the smaller steering u-joint of the previous years light-duty axle. In 77.5 through 79 model years they started using the high-pinion Dana 44 for the F-250 that had been in use on the 1/2 ton trucks for a full decade or more, because they finally married the t-case to tranny instead of the divorced set-up, and completely modified the frame and suspension to be more like what the rest of the fleet got back in 1973 except the high-boy and the F-350.

Also, the difference between a '69 HD axle and a '75 HD axle would be that the '75 would have the ram assist power steering on it, assuming power steering was an option with the HD axle which I'm sure it probably was. I would think for what little it adds, you would be better off avoiding that system and sticking with a '74 or prior, or go with a 76/77 where the open knuckles, ball joints and disc brakes get you a fair trade-off for the hassles the rams can be to repair.

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thanks 4x for the link.

i am trying to find 60's now for my early bronco axle swap.
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theres a closed knuckle here f250 with power steering in Indiana Pa for sale let me know and i can check it out

just pm me i dont come in ford section except to look for info on my upcoming sfa on a chevy
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Just had my friend pick me up a '74 F-250 highboy with 29k miles. Ex fire department rig with an abused body. Plan on using it as a chassis donor for my mint '79 F-100 body when I get back from my deployment.




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Mines for sale in Issaquah, Washington $1000 No tires an wheels and some other details

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