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AllGoNoShow · 11-05-2010, 07:54 AM

Ok so I have been doing a little research on a cage for this truck. Jegs has a prebent cage and it would be like 300 with shipping. Does anybody have any experience with these cages? Quality? Or should I just man up and buy a bender. I have never bent tubing and I am a little worried I will go through quite a bit of tube before I get the hang of it. What do you guys think?

jam0o0 · 11-11-2010, 09:04 AM

awsome truck. i love the simplicity of it.

i've heard the prebent cages are pretty terrible fit wise. i'd get a HF pipe kinker and quality structural pipe before i got one of those.

AllGoNoShow · 11-15-2010, 08:34 AM

Thanks Jamoo. Yeah I am trying to keep it pretty stupid simple. Best part of it is I have about $1600 out of pocket total into this thing, that includes the original purchase price of the pickup.

93 Ranger · 11-15-2010, 04:40 PM

I have a special place in my heart for them old fords. They look so good lifted.

hawkins1 · 11-24-2010, 10:57 AM

Looking at your pics, i didnt see a "trac" bar on your front axle. I would think that front end would track all over the place without it? Im interested in building a similar front end using a 79 f150 4x4 and a 90s dana 60 with leafs.my front end will be wider then yur highboy 60,probably build outriggers off the frame to put my leaf shackles on. what size lift springs u running in the front and do u get any interference with the steering?

alex211 · 11-24-2010, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkins1

Looking at your pics, i didnt see a "trac" bar on your front axle. I would think that front end would track all over the place without it? Im interested in building a similar front end using a 79 f150 4x4 and a 90s dana 60 with leafs.my front end will be wider then yur highboy 60,probably build outriggers off the frame to put my leaf shackles on. what size lift springs u running in the front and do u get any interference with the steering?

Why don't you learn how to spell?

Also it has leafs in the front, hence why there is no a track bar present.

AllGoNoShow · 11-24-2010, 08:27 PM

I'm pretty sure I stated that I had 6'' skyjacker springs in the front for a 79 f-250 earlier in the thread. No need for a track bar in the front with leafs...not that it would matter anyway due to the fact that it is a trail only rig. No interference with the steering, I used a highsteer arm.

AllGoNoShow · 11-24-2010, 08:38 PM

I posted these pictures in another thread but some of you may have not seen them. I went and cut some wood the other day. A good load of ash wood. Husqvarna 359 with 22'' blade.

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Ready to be unloaded

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I ordered some 4'' coils for the front and will be making a winch bumper for it soon.

hawkins1 · 11-25-2010, 12:05 AM

My 91 ford 1 ton has leaf springs and a trac bar. Not just coil spring trucks have them. It was a legitimate question ....And whats with the attitude? Trac or Track same thing....what are u, an english teacher?

AllGoNoShow · 11-25-2010, 08:18 AM

Yes the 80's and most of the 90's 1 ton trucks with a dana 60 front had track bars. This was mostly due to the fact that the shackle was in the front of the leaf spring instead of the back and it helped to stabalize the axle. If you have your shackles to the rear of your leaf springs you should not have a problem or need for a track bar.

hawkins1 · 11-25-2010, 11:47 AM

Cool.. thats good to know.....I wondered why the 70s trucks with leaves didnt use em

AllGoNoShow · 12-03-2010, 08:49 AM

I added some 4'' coils to my 78 shortbox to level it out some. I like the way that it turned out. Here is a before shot.

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Ran into this problem. Luckily they did not break off flush. I was able to hit it with some pb blaster and a little heat from the torch, then use some vise grips to get them out.

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It sits just about right now. A little trimming of the grill shell and a winch bumper is next. Maybe a bobbed and clearanced bed is in the works.

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zukitoon · 12-04-2010, 12:49 AM

Looks good!

Restoman2 · 12-04-2010, 03:40 AM

Awesome build buddy! Thanks.

minitrucker · 12-04-2010, 05:24 AM

i love this thread build ! i want a old ford so bad

Monster67 · 12-08-2010, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AllGoNoShow

I ditched the cv joint and welded 1350 yokes on the square tubing with u-straps...

Do you have any pictures of how/what you did? I have a 79 F250 with around a 7" lift and i really do not want to drop a small fortune on a shaft but only having 2wd is killing me...

Ibuildembig · 12-08-2010, 07:40 AM

Alot of the cages from Jegs are made by S&W racecars. I have put in three of them for people and they fit really nice actually. You can go to their site directly and choose which one you want. They offer HREW, DOM, and moly cages.

AllGoNoShow · 12-08-2010, 08:06 AM

Thanks. Do you have a link to their site? Monster, I will try to get a picture up in the next day or so. Pretty simple though, I just welded 1350 u-bolt style yokes onto a 2 1/2'' reciever tubing and then the other 1350 to a 2'' reciever tubing.

seemoremud · 12-08-2010, 08:39 AM

Nice build. Got pics of the finished front shackle hangers? I was curious to how you boxed them in and how they're holding up. I did mine in a similar fashion on my '91.

I don't dig square driveshafts, seems like they would cause frequent seal and bearing failures? But for the cost and strength and never running on the road, I can see a reasoning for them.

I like it

AllGoNoShow · 12-08-2010, 11:51 AM

If you look on page 3 I think you will see that I ended up ditching the original front shackle hanger and used one that goes through the frame.

AllGoNoShow · 12-08-2010, 12:06 PM

Here is a pic of the front driveshaft that was requested.

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Monster67 · 12-08-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AllGoNoShow

Here is a pic of the front driveshaft that was requested.

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thanks for the picture, im not the biggest fan of square driveshafts but id rather have a square shaft than no 4wd... i got a bunch of random driveshafts and tubing layin around so maybe ill try to make somthing work

AllGoNoShow · 12-09-2010, 08:37 PM

It was unseasonably warm today in southwestern South Dakota so what better way to spend it than wrenchin and drinking budweiser? I got started on my winch bumper for the shortbox. I took a few measurements and cut out a few templates then transferred them to some 1/4'' flat steel. A little torch work and some tack welds I came up with this.

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Meh....here are a few weld pics

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I tacked it to the frame and drilled a couple holes. I also did a little trimming on the front grill shell.

Before the trim..

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After...

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I set the winch on it just so that I could drink beer and stare at it for awhile...

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I will be adding a piece to mount my roller fairlead onto. I am ordering some shocks for it tonight then I should be able to go out and put some more dents in it. As for the other 79 which has been named "Sampson" (previous owners name), I am going to lower it some, cage, bed sides, and front winch mount. Thats all for now.

Ramboss429 · 12-10-2010, 06:54 AM

It was looking good till the Budweiser part!

It got up to 45 yesterday here, what it get down your way?

AllGoNoShow · 12-10-2010, 07:37 AM

Haha. Pry about 50 or so.

11-11-2010, 09:04 AM	#77 (permalink)
jam0o0 Granite Guru Join Date: Apr 2006 Member # 71891 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 796	awsome truck. i love the simplicity of it. i've heard the prebent cages are pretty terrible fit wise. i'd get a HF pipe kinker and quality structural pipe before i got one of those. __________________ 95 ford bronco, 351W - one tons, 38's, lockers, no discernible driving ability 93 F250, 7.3T, ZF5

11-24-2010, 08:38 PM	#83 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	I posted these pictures in another thread but some of you may have not seen them. I went and cut some wood the other day. A good load of ash wood. Husqvarna 359 with 22'' blade. [IMG][/IMG] Ready to be unloaded [IMG][/IMG] I ordered some 4'' coils for the front and will be making a winch bumper for it soon.

11-25-2010, 08:18 AM	#85 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	Yes the 80's and most of the 90's 1 ton trucks with a dana 60 front had track bars. This was mostly due to the fact that the shackle was in the front of the leaf spring instead of the back and it helped to stabalize the axle. If you have your shackles to the rear of your leaf springs you should not have a problem or need for a track bar. Last edited by AllGoNoShow; 11-25-2010 at 08:19 AM.

12-03-2010, 08:49 AM	#87 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	I added some 4'' coils to my 78 shortbox to level it out some. I like the way that it turned out. Here is a before shot. [IMG][/IMG] Ran into this problem. Luckily they did not break off flush. I was able to hit it with some pb blaster and a little heat from the torch, then use some vise grips to get them out. [IMG][/IMG] It sits just about right now. A little trimming of the grill shell and a winch bumper is next. Maybe a bobbed and clearanced bed is in the works. [IMG][/IMG] Last edited by AllGoNoShow; 12-03-2010 at 08:51 AM.

12-04-2010, 05:24 AM	#90 (permalink)
minitrucker Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Member # 132160 Location: ontario canada Posts: 20	i love this thread build ! i want a old ford so bad __________________ 2001 dodge ram on 35's

11-05-2010, 07:54 AM	#76 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	Ok so I have been doing a little research on a cage for this truck. Jegs has a prebent cage and it would be like 300 with shipping. Does anybody have any experience with these cages? Quality? Or should I just man up and buy a bender. I have never bent tubing and I am a little worried I will go through quite a bit of tube before I get the hang of it. What do you guys think?

11-15-2010, 08:34 AM	#78 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	Thanks Jamoo. Yeah I am trying to keep it pretty stupid simple. Best part of it is I have about $1600 out of pocket total into this thing, that includes the original purchase price of the pickup.

11-15-2010, 04:40 PM	#79 (permalink)
93 Ranger Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 174081 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 14	I have a special place in my heart for them old fords. They look so good lifted.

11-24-2010, 10:57 AM	#80 (permalink)
hawkins1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 172863 Location: Tucson,AZ Posts: 109	Looking at your pics, i didnt see a "trac" bar on your front axle. I would think that front end would track all over the place without it? Im interested in building a similar front end using a 79 f150 4x4 and a 90s dana 60 with leafs.my front end will be wider then yur highboy 60,probably build outriggers off the frame to put my leaf shackles on. what size lift springs u running in the front and do u get any interference with the steering?

11-24-2010, 08:27 PM	#82 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	I'm pretty sure I stated that I had 6'' skyjacker springs in the front for a 79 f-250 earlier in the thread. No need for a track bar in the front with leafs...not that it would matter anyway due to the fact that it is a trail only rig. No interference with the steering, I used a highsteer arm.

11-25-2010, 12:05 AM	#84 (permalink)
hawkins1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 172863 Location: Tucson,AZ Posts: 109	My 91 ford 1 ton has leaf springs and a trac bar. Not just coil spring trucks have them. It was a legitimate question ....And whats with the attitude? Trac or Track same thing....what are u, an english teacher?

11-25-2010, 11:47 AM	#86 (permalink)
hawkins1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 172863 Location: Tucson,AZ Posts: 109	Cool.. thats good to know.....I wondered why the 70s trucks with leaves didnt use em

12-04-2010, 12:49 AM	#88 (permalink)
zukitoon Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Member # 115833 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 54	Looks good!

12-04-2010, 03:40 AM	#89 (permalink)
Restoman2 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Member # 135065 Location: Louisiana Posts: 104	Awesome build buddy! Thanks.

12-08-2010, 07:40 AM	#92 (permalink)
Ibuildembig Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26504 Location: Fruitland MO Posts: 370	Alot of the cages from Jegs are made by S&W racecars. I have put in three of them for people and they fit really nice actually. You can go to their site directly and choose which one you want. They offer HREW, DOM, and moly cages. __________________ If you have a mullet and play video games, your not tellin me shit 68 F350 CC project 72 F350 CC for parts 79 F150 with tons on coils 88 F350 truggy 90 F350 beater truck 96 F250 CC DD

12-08-2010, 08:06 AM	#93 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	Thanks. Do you have a link to their site? Monster, I will try to get a picture up in the next day or so. Pretty simple though, I just welded 1350 u-bolt style yokes onto a 2 1/2'' reciever tubing and then the other 1350 to a 2'' reciever tubing. Last edited by AllGoNoShow; 12-08-2010 at 08:08 AM.

12-08-2010, 08:39 AM	#94 (permalink)
seemoremud Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 58978 Location: Alabama Posts: 17	Nice build. Got pics of the finished front shackle hangers? I was curious to how you boxed them in and how they're holding up. I did mine in a similar fashion on my '91. I don't dig square driveshafts, seems like they would cause frequent seal and bearing failures? But for the cost and strength and never running on the road, I can see a reasoning for them. I like it __________________ '91 F-150,ext cab, no bed, shortened WB , 5.13s, D60s locked f&r, leaks a lot

12-08-2010, 11:51 AM	#95 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	If you look on page 3 I think you will see that I ended up ditching the original front shackle hanger and used one that goes through the frame.

12-08-2010, 12:06 PM	#96 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	Here is a pic of the front driveshaft that was requested. [IMG][/IMG]

12-09-2010, 08:37 PM	#98 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	It was unseasonably warm today in southwestern South Dakota so what better way to spend it than wrenchin and drinking budweiser? I got started on my winch bumper for the shortbox. I took a few measurements and cut out a few templates then transferred them to some 1/4'' flat steel. A little torch work and some tack welds I came up with this. [IMG][/IMG] Meh....here are a few weld pics [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] I tacked it to the frame and drilled a couple holes. I also did a little trimming on the front grill shell. Before the trim.. [IMG][/IMG] After... [IMG][/IMG] I set the winch on it just so that I could drink beer and stare at it for awhile... [IMG][/IMG] I will be adding a piece to mount my roller fairlead onto. I am ordering some shocks for it tonight then I should be able to go out and put some more dents in it. As for the other 79 which has been named "Sampson" (previous owners name), I am going to lower it some, cage, bed sides, and front winch mount. Thats all for now.

12-10-2010, 06:54 AM	#99 (permalink)
Ramboss429 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Member # 31425 Location: South Dakota Posts: 600	It was looking good till the Budweiser part! It got up to 45 yesterday here, what it get down your way?

12-10-2010, 07:37 AM	#100 (permalink)
AllGoNoShow Rock God Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46318 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,999	Haha. Pry about 50 or so.

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